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If you get to play the blame game, I get to play the disclaimer game: "I'm not a nute expert, I just play one online"
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So just so I'm clear. And I promise it's tablespoon not teaspoon.Before we get to the numbers... First off, you say you're feeding 1 Tablespoon per foot of plant height? The instructions I see for these products say .5 to 1 teaspoon, not Tablespoon. Perhaps you just quoted the wrong unit of measure. I'm making the computations based on 1 teaspoon. Next, Green Planet states in their product brochures that these products are meant for coco or soil-less. Frankly I don't see how that's possible because they don't contain most of the micros (ie iron, magnesium, copper, etc). It's not really a complete nutrient system. Lastly, you'll note that one of the ingredients in each product is Potassium Sulfate, yet there is no Sulfur listed in the guaranteed analysis. The Sulfur component of Potassium Sulfate is 34% of the amount of Potassium so I accounted for it in my calcs. Boost has a second source of Potassium and I'm not certain as to how much of each product is used in Boost. Therefore I assumed half the Potassium came from each source.
On with the show...
This is what things look like when you feed the Grow fertilizer
I typically look for 150-175 ppm N. The Green Planet grow is 211. As long as you're not seeing tip burn you're OK.
Next lets look at what happens when you change to the Bloom fertilizer.
The N drops to 105, which could lead to yellowing plants. P goes up a little, and K jumps to 175. I like to see K in the area of 180-220 ppm so that's close.
What happens when you add Boost to the Bloom?
The N stays the same since there is no N component in the Boost. Still lower than the 150ish I'd like to see. P jumps to 119. I've run as low as 20 ppm of P with no problems. 40-50 is more than adequate. Over 100 and I've seen P start to lock out other micro nutrients, so 119 is a bit concerning. K is almost 280ppm. That's approaching the upper limits. I've seen catastrophic results when K gets over 300 ppm.
With the products on hand, lets look at another alternative. Feeding 3/4 teaspoon Grow, and 1/2 teaspoon of Boost for the blooming phase of your plants.
N raises to 158 ppm which should keep them green. P drops 26 points to reduce the chances of excess P locking out micro nutrients. K is 170 ppm which should be adequate. its only 5 ppm different than when you feed the Bloom fertilizer with no other supplements. If you're gonna change anything, I'd consider the Grow + Boost fertilizer program.
Going forward I'm going to dump the Bloom.
Veg:
Grow nute: 3/4 Tbsp per foot every 3 weeks
For flower do you mean halve the boost again? That would mean 1/4 tablespoon. The container directions for the Boost they say a half Tbsp per foot.
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L O L L I N GIf you get to play the blame game, I get to play the disclaimer game: "I'm not a nute expert, I just play one online"
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Do you mean add the boost to veg?
Omg the more times I read it the more confused I get lol
Do what you are doing for Veg & Do this ^ for the bloom cycle is what I read .
Correct me if I am wrong @farside05
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Omg just read it again lol.Before we get to the numbers... First off, you say you're feeding 1 Tablespoon per foot of plant height? The instructions I see for these products say .5 to 1 teaspoon, not Tablespoon. Perhaps you just quoted the wrong unit of measure. I'm making the computations based on 1 teaspoon. Next, Green Planet states in their product brochures that these products are meant for coco or soil-less. Frankly I don't see how that's possible because they don't contain most of the micros (ie iron, magnesium, copper, etc). It's not really a complete nutrient system. Lastly, you'll note that one of the ingredients in each product is Potassium Sulfate, yet there is no Sulfur listed in the guaranteed analysis. The Sulfur component of Potassium Sulfate is 34% of the amount of Potassium so I accounted for it in my calcs. Boost has a second source of Potassium and I'm not certain as to how much of each product is used in Boost. Therefore I assumed half the Potassium came from each source.
On with the show...
This is what things look like when you feed the Grow fertilizer
I typically look for 150-175 ppm N. The Green Planet grow is 211. As long as you're not seeing tip burn you're OK.
Next lets look at what happens when you change to the Bloom fertilizer.
The N drops to 105, which could lead to yellowing plants. P goes up a little, and K jumps to 175. I like to see K in the area of 180-220 ppm so that's close.
What happens when you add Boost to the Bloom?
The N stays the same since there is no N component in the Boost. Still lower than the 150ish I'd like to see. P jumps to 119. I've run as low as 20 ppm of P with no problems. 40-50 is more than adequate. Over 100 and I've seen P start to lock out other micro nutrients, so 119 is a bit concerning. K is almost 280ppm. That's approaching the upper limits. I've seen catastrophic results when K gets over 300 ppm.
With the products on hand, lets look at another alternative. Feeding 3/4 teaspoon Grow, and 1/2 teaspoon of Boost for the blooming phase of your plants.
N raises to 158 ppm which should keep them green. P drops 26 points to reduce the chances of excess P locking out micro nutrients. K is 170 ppm which should be adequate. its only 5 ppm different than when you feed the Bloom fertilizer with no other supplements. If you're gonna change anything, I'd consider the Grow + Boost fertilizer program.
Look I’m really not joking when I say I’m not the brightest star.
Can you tell me exactly what you recommend for veg, then flower. I just don’t want to get it wrong. I will do what ever you think. I don’t understand all that P K stuff.
I know I’m annoying. I know I’m needy, but on the positives I’m a good cook lollll
Thanks again for taking the time Farside
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Omg I broke two of Eva’s arms this morning. I’m so mad at me I could spit. I’d carhooked her with no problems, slow steady, pushing hooks into the dirt before looping the branches. Looped them in and thought, she’s on a lean, pushed her slightly with my index finger to straighten her and pop pop. Both branches on her right. One gone totally, the other hanging by a thread.
Anyhoo Bloom Room Feelz
Anyhoo Bloom Room Feelz
Hahaha all three are going to schmoke up great!
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If I don’t ruin them first.
These nutes are a bit of a headache. I have a bucketload of anxiety. I’m just praying customs let my Tega Brop *taps nose* into the country. Those are nutes I understand.
Anaemic green = add more
Aqua green = add less
No pH K VD Cal ppm WD40 Ni RH STI to worry me!
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Me about to explode into my Nurse Friday!
8 hours then it’s cheers to the weekend!
Yeah boiiiiiiiiiii
Have a good one!
8 hours then it’s cheers to the weekend!
Yeah boiiiiiiiiiii
Have a good one!
Plants in Veg stage: if you were happy with the results you had before, stick with whatever you were doing.
Plants in Bloom stage: 3/4 Tbsp Grow & 1/2 Tbsp Boost, per foot of plant height, every 3 weeks
So basically you're cutting back the Grow by 1/4 Tbsp, and adding 1/2 Tbsp of Boost.
So, do you happen to know your potential Hydrogen availability, vapour deficiency, Potassium, Calcium [no L], parts per million, Water Dispersing Oil 40%, Nickel, Rhobidium, Sulfur & Titanium content?
... me neither
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Puff Puff Pass Mr. Growin. Haha.So, do you happen to know your potential Hydrogen availability, vapour deficiency, Calcium [no L], parts per million, Water Dispersing Oil 40%, Nickel, Rhobidium, Sulfur & Titanium content?
... me neither
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So, do you happen to know your potential Hydrogen availability, vapour deficiency, Calcium [no L], parts per million, Water Dispersing Oil 40%, Nickel, Rhobidium, Sulfur & Titanium content?
... me neither
I could probably build a spreadsheet for that
If you've brought back any Unobtanium from Pandora, that might be tricky though.
I have an as yet undiscovered secret ingredient from Pangea, then Gondwalaland, I've named it TaurusfescaeI could probably build a spreadsheet for that
I have an as yet discovered secret ingredient from Pangea, then Gondwalaland, I've named it Taurusfescae
I'm gonna go organic. I have truckloads of pterodactyl feathers that have the optimal nutrition for cannabis.
I just throw the plants in some dirt and give them stuff they like. Hopefully they give me stuff I like in return.
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Thank you so much!
You’re a fucking legend! And I’m not just saying that coz it’s Friday and I’m a red wine and scoob in either! Look I prolly am just a little lolling!
But you’ve been a great help. I’m super nervous to use that Boost tbh. I’ve used it on two plants and it’s munted both.
I’ve looked at your wares and you grow like a guru, so I’m going to follow your advice. If it’s a grow victory, it’s all me, if it goes to shit, it’s all you babe! Lollling!
And this is my veg tent right now. I think I’m really happy with the veg component. I’m seeing beautiful growth and the green is bang on (well I think it is lol), in my Mimosa EVO clone and my Bubba Kush. Best words to say everrrrrrrr btw.
They do look lush Tra, nothing wrong with them!