Trala’s Tent

[marcus611a]

Thanks for the tag, T....
Here's a few pics of how I make the hooks- pretty easy to do- solid core copper wire (20 gauge)works the best, but other types of wire will work too- copper is just easier.

So first, get yourself some bamboo skewers at the dollar store- you get like a hundred of them for a buck..
you'll also need 3.5"- 4"of wire for each hook:

Then just tightly wrap the wire around the stick, all but 3/8", which is what you bend into a hook...

Bend the 3/8" of wire into a little hook...

And you're done! You can slide the hook up or down on the stick to adjust for the height of your plant.

It's up to you how many you'll need for training your plants- I use 25 or so per plant...
They're adjustable and re-usable, so you'll only need to make them once...

So there ya go, @marcus611a !

Well that's cool. But honestly I use bread ties and I tie my branches down to my net

 

[bluter]

you can probably spray the plants right now if they are photos. flower length should still be long enough to get past the half-life of the treatment. you might not get them all but it will at least take it down. i dunno if there is enough time if they are autos.

neem oil could probably be used now. could also hit it with a mix of 50/50 90% iso and water. neither for very long though. even a few soakings with straight water will knock them back a bit.

@InTheShed has an organic spray recipe somewhere i keep forgetting to bookmark. hopefully he'll pop in or you can do a search.


since you are in the states you probably have access to something that can be used safely in flower. i think sns or another of the sponsors has stuff we can't get up here. i'd look in to that as well.

you can import lady bugs which is great for organic and outdoor. outdoor usually relies on natural predators to keep things in check.

 

[HashGirl]

Hi @marcus611a I wanted to put together a little something I’ve learned since accidentally embracing Monstercropping. It is not a popular way to grow, and I truly understand why. It takes sooooo. fucking. long to Reveg a bud clone. Much longer than revegging a plant, well I think it does.

This is a wonderful pictorial. Thank you for posting it. However, I'm still unclear on what exactly monster cropping is. Is it different from supercropping? Do you only monster crop clones or can you monster crop any plant? Are scissors involved at all or is it all just bending?

Over the last year I think I have improved in getting the most out of my little monsters, and while watching your journal, I think I may have some tips you might want to consider.

I didn’t post this in your journal coz I know some posters prefer to keep their journals about their own personal grow. Not me mind, I couldn’t give a fuck what people want to share in this journal. Pets, recipes anything goes in here

First I don’t have the experience of the good growers in here so what I’m saying could be viewed as 100% wrong. I just wanted to share what has worked for me.

As you can see with your plants their little arms are eager to get to the outside of the pot. Without training I find my plants arms can become quite spindly. This advice is about growing the type of plant you see as beautiful, so what I consider beautiful in a plant could differ to what you are trying to achieve. Thankfully there are hundreds of ways to skin a cat, not that anyone should be doing that. Skinning cats is just wrong. But if it was okay to skin a cat, this is the way I would do it:-

My goal is to achieve an even canopy. I think this is particularly difficult in little monsters because they want to grow up and out, without central coverage. That central coverage is what makes my heart sing. I realised I’d neglected training, so 4 days ago I decided I better get to it.

My goal was to fill these areas:-

So in essence what I’m trying to do is turn these branches back on themselves. The pink colour demonstrates where my growth is heading and the yellow demonstrates where I want it to train it to go.

In order to fill these spaces I loop my new growth back on itself and I secure it with a Carhook, I really need to put a link to how @Carcass makes them in my signature. For me they changed the way I grow. Hopefully he will come and link you. They are these sticks with wire. I then create an actual U turn with my stalk.

This newest training pictured was done yesterday. I have been actively tweaking her since last Wednesday.

Here she is today, 4 days on.

So as you can see, the growth goal I am trying to achieve is slowly coming into effect. I think it could benefit you to perhaps better prepare your plant for your scrog net.

So there is my monstercrop advice…. Not that you even asked LOLLINGGGGGG!

Oh and first person to scroll straight past that absolute bible length wall of words and post TL;DR wins!

If you're up for it sometime, maybe a video showing you actually doing the monstercropping might help me???

Guess who is going to the Prom with her own beautiful little flower corsage?

Mimstar that’s who!

Yeah boiiiiiiiiiii

Day 1 of Flower





I’m going to save the nit drama for another day, and just let her enjoy the dance. The whole lot are absolutely infested. I just don’t know what to do.

Nits according to Google are lice but I've never heard of lice on cannabis plants so maybe one of these posts might help:

Aphids by Backlipslide

Homemade Pesticide by copperrein

since you are in the states you probably have access to something that can be used safely in flower. i think sns or another of the sponsors has stuff we can't get up here. i'd look in to that as well.

you can import lady bugs which is great for organic and outdoor. outdoor usually relies on natural predators to keep things in check.

Our Trala is a lady from down under, i.e. Australia not the US.

 

[bluter]

Our Trala is a lady from down under, i.e. Australia not the US.

well crap. stuff gets harder now.

 

[StoneOtter]

Hello

FYI I love man euvering!

So I learned early in my relationship that my partner hates being told what to do. So over the last 20 years I have fine tuned this skill of always telling him what to do without him realising. From here on I will call it man euvering.

I’ll give you some examples of my craft. I’ll set the scene. My neighbour decided to extend and build a veranda. With horror I realise they will be able to see into my pool area where my plants are. I can’t say I need a screen for my plants coz he will say no, coz he hates my plants. I need to find a weakness…

Me: Omg look! Next door is building a veranda
Him: yeah (scintillating conversation isn’t his strong point)
Me: Look they will be able to see straight in! I wonder if we could extend that screen for privacy?
Him: Nah can’t attach it to anything
Me: Hmmm what about the filter shed
Him: Nah, won’t work.
Me: Oh bummer. No more daytime skinny dipping I guess —> seed planted

2 weeks later: SUCCESS

Next example. He attached what can only be described as an eyesore in front of my house. He ran a drain pipe straight along my beautiful fake gate and when it rained, water poured out, into the other neighbours yard. It was a quick fix till our water tank arrives. Again I need to find weakness…

Me: Omg people must wonder what we are doing with that pipe, (he lives for the praise he gets from walkers when it comes to his Reno’s).
Him: yeah
Me: I wonder if it bothers the neighbours. We’ve had a bit of rain.
Him: yeah probably does —> seed planted

2 weeks later SUCCESS! Look it’s not, he basically created a cock on the side of my house which pisses water onto that random paver he has placed under it. And worse part, it’s almost directly under our bedroom window, fucking tank can’t come quick enough.

Some I win, some I win while losing.

It was tens of years before I realized Ms Otter and I were doing the same. Training she calls it.

 

[StoneOtter]

She is beautiful still! happy flowering day!

 

[Renaissance Man]

I'm not sure ladybugs will help at this point. I think you should do something sooner and quicker. Neem oil could work, it has worked for me but it will take a few weeks. I'm not sure about that SNS product, I've heard good things.

 

[Renaissance Man]

From here on I will call it man euvering.

oh and by the way, we also have something called woman eurvering

 

[Trala]

Cooties!

You need ladybugs, ladybirds, whatever you call them. Stat.

Omg they are beyond ladybirds

you can probably spray the plants right now if they are photos. flower length should still be long enough to get past the half-life of the treatment. you might not get them all but it will at least take it down. i dunno if there is enough time if they are autos.

neem oil could probably be used now. could also hit it with a mix of 50/50 90% iso and water. neither for very long though. even a few soakings with straight water will knock them back a bit.

@InTheShed has an organic spray recipe somewhere i keep forgetting to bookmark. hopefully he'll pop in or you can do a search.


since you are in the states you probably have access to something that can be used safely in flower. i think sns or another of the sponsors has stuff we can't get up here. i'd look in to that as well.

you can import lady bugs which is great for organic and outdoor. outdoor usually relies on natural predators to keep things in check.

Hi Bluter

I’ve been treating them 3rd daily. I’m going to wash every leaf today, then treat again tonight. I use two different products, one is neem, the other is a product from the hydro shop he states can be used all the way through flower. Cost a packet.

My climate is tropical so it’s basically bugs a zillion. I can’t even get a bug free zone in winter, however they are noticeably reduced. While I know it’s not ideal, my plants seem to carry in regardless. Like us Queenslanders, they just get used to them I guess.

They have spiders, but no ladybirds. In fact I’ve only ever seen one on my plants. They would love it. It’s all the Sizzler Salad Bar. All you can eat lolllll.

And mate, AUSSIE! AUSSIE! AUSSIE! Oii! Oii! Oii!

 

[Trala]

Well that's cool. But honestly I use bread ties and I tie my branches down to my net

I’m glad you’ve found a technique that works for you

 

[Trala]

This is a wonderful pictorial. Thank you for posting it. However, I'm still unclear on what exactly monster cropping is. Is it different from supercropping? Do you only monster crop clones or can you monster crop any plant? Are scissors involved at all or is it all just bending?
If you're up for it sometime, maybe a video showing you actually doing the monstercropping might help me???
Nits according to Google are lice but I've never heard of lice on cannabis plants so maybe one of these posts might help:

Aphids by Backlipslide

Homemade Pesticide by copperrein

Our Trala is a lady from down under, i.e. Australia not the US.

Thank you for saying that, but I think you are trying to save my face. It was long winded and as it turns out not much use to the poster I made it for LOLLLLLINGGG. I was so excited at the thought of being able to give something back too. Reminds me of the time in primary school when my 10 year old self was told to do a project on Australia’s history and I read it as Austria. So my poster which coincidently was to celebrate Australia Day (should have been a solid clue tbh), was all about Austria, I was so proud of it…. Till the horror set in. My refusal to read directions obviously started young. Fml

Monstercropping is very different to supercropping. I actually learned this here. I’m not sure why two words that sound so similar mean something so different. It’s like Australia/Austria all over again. Monstercropping is just the cloning of a bud cutting rather than a veg cutting. It has nothing to do with training. And HG if you want a video, I will make you one next time I do it. I’ll show you something a bit cool today, well I think it’s cool.

Nits is my Aussie slang for spider mites.

She comes from the land Down Under
Where the women glow and men plunder
Can’t you hear, can’t you hear that thunder?
You better run you better take cover…

 

[Renaissance Man]

Wait a minute.. which one of your plants is monster cropped? Not Mimmie, right??

 

[Trala]

It was tens of years before I realized Ms Otter and I were doing the same. Training she calls it.

So true. Behind every good man is a woman who put the time and work in when it comes to training.

What did God say after creating man?
I can do better than that. Adam, give me your rib.

L O L L I N G !

She is beautiful still! happy flowering day!

Thank you

 

[Trala]

I'm not sure ladybugs will help at this point. I think you should do something sooner and quicker. Neem oil could work, it has worked for me but it will take a few weeks. I'm not sure about that SNS product, I've heard good things.

Ren they have been treated since birth. I clean out grow areas and spray surface insect spray weekly. Use yellow sticky pads and nit spray foliage 3-4th daily. I use Neem, and another expensive eucalyptus smelling product.

oh and by the way, we also have something called woman eurvering

So funny! Because it’s true!

Wait a minute.. which one of your plants is monster cropped? Not Mimmie, right??

No Mimmy is a Mimosa Eva, she was a Barney’s seed. All my plants originated from Barney’s Seeds, they are a great seed. Well I think they are. The monstercropped clones are Tee Bee which is a Tangerine Dream bud and Merrie Bed which is a Peyote Critical bud.

 

[013]

Hey HG, wanted to add slight adjustment to Tra’s comment about monster cropping…. its not necessarily cloning a bud per say - it’s taking a clone from a flowering plant which results in freazoid of a bushy, leafy, branch filled beast. It seems to pack the nodes in tighter, the branches turn smaller but more woody and very strong.

Anywho Tra was 420% correct but didn’t want you to think it had to have a bud kept alive on it…. just a clone from flowering plant. Our very own hostess with the mostest… Mistress T is the reining Queen of MC (does not tap nose for this kinda MC)

BTW’s one day we are gonna remote link our garden across the oceans so Tra does veg and clones down under while I do flowering stateside. I’ll take that gig any day.

double BTW’s seems we lost NuttyProfessor too.

Brrr… freaking thermometer; don’t forget your booties, it’s getting cold out there!

 

[Trala]

Hey HG, wanted to add slight adjustment to Tra’s comment about monster cropping…. its not necessarily cloning a bud per say - it’s taking a clone from a flowering plant which results in freazoid of a bushy, leafy, branch filled beast. It seems to pack the nodes in tighter, the branches turn smaller but more woody and very strong.

Anywho Tra was 420% correct but didn’t want you to think it had to have a bud kept alive on it…. just a clone from flowering plant. Our very own hostess with the mostest… Mistress T is the reining Queen of MC (does not tap nose for this kinda MC)

BTW’s one day we are gonna remote link our garden across the oceans so Tra does veg and clones down under while I do flowering stateside. I’ll take that gig any day.

double BTW’s seems we lost NuttyProfessor too.

Brrr… freaking thermometer come on April - don’t forget your booties, it’s getting cold out there!

Hello you

Thank you for clarifying. I had zero idea what I’d done. I think I first thought that single bladed leaf was a weed that had somehow grown into my clone lollll

It seems only Marcus and I like this type of growing. It’s defs the least popular way to clone.

Omg you would make my flowers shine. I always fall at flower. Every single time.

Oh no really? Do you mean the B word than ends in AN, or he has moved on himself?

 

[Trala]

#Operationnit

So mission accomplished. Nits are my biggest issues, they really are. I am INUNDATED!

So my nit regime, I basically waterboard them to the point they look like drowned rats. I unshackle my clones so I can get into every branch. I hit them hard with the spray in order to hopefully blow them off the leaves.

Tonight I will follow up with a treatment. I did the Bug one two days ago so I’ll prolly go neem. Ole mate reckons you can use The Bug Boss right through flower.

Thankfully they have bounced back from the trauma. My little monsters got their hands in the air like they just don’t care whoooOoop! WhoooOoop! I will feel bad reshackling them. They look so free and happy.

Mimstar drinking in that sunshine. She reminds me of my Shiskaberry. She is a beautiful plant to look at despite her nits. I really really love her.

 

[Trala]

@HashGirl

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[013]

just moved on, hasn’t logged on since Oct. think he was trying to go commercial either making soil & nutes and then was growing micro greens

Hey Tra for the record it appears that Searles is using potassium salts of fatty acids which is same ingredient as our US based Safers Soap. Not sure how that’s labeled for use but InTheShed always advises to spray Safers on before lights out and then the following night spray again with plain water to rinse the Safers soap back off of the foliage…..

Also can’t recall - but did you ever find out what active ingredients are in the King Hit Bug Boss??

whoa Mimmy has curves in all the right places!!!

 

[marcus611a]

I’m glad you’ve found a technique that works for you

Yes mam. Next grow I'm not scrog n I will try the hooks. I want to see what technique gives me big as yield in a 2x2. Instead of two plants in scrog I'll see about getting six plants not scrog.