Todd's 2X4 Growing

[toddtony]

Frosty lookin buds, bud!!! Indoor and outdoor both look fire.

Much appreciated

 

[toddtony]

With this run now completed we got about a 9 zips between the tent and the outdoors.

Inside if the oreoz wasn't a bad seeds most likely would've got 6oz but Ice cold gave just over 2oz and nfsheesh about 2 oz oreoz was 12Grams. My favorite of the 3 indoor plants is definitely the NFSHEEESH I like the sweet peanut butter cream scent I like the off white appearance it has due to the trichomes stacking. Good potency relaxing high without going straight to sleep

Outdoors we got abit over 2oz from Ice cold and just around 2 oz from NFSHEEESH the oreoz was about an ounce obviously could jave done way better with outdoor yeilds. It's hard to say but either just the outdoors oreoz hermed or possibly the ice cold and nfsheesh did as well but all outdoor plants had seeds oreoz and ice cold had the most . I've saved the majority of the seeds I've pulled out the ice cold and NFSHEEESH. Another tough call is crowning an outdoor fav it be the NFSHEEESH again though

Something I noted from both grows out and indoor the ice cold yielded about 30% more than the NFSHEEESH​

 

[toddtony]

Coming soon

I'm not even gonna call these days one yet till all are ready to really start growing but I've got hopefully two clones atleast 1 coming along

And we will have to run two more seeds because he rest of the cuttings died before rooting

I transplanted these. Clones maybe 4-7 days ago after I noted roots and some minor new growth probably took like a 1.5 month period to grow roots I'ma call these clones 1&2 until I figure out whether they are NFSHEEESH or Ice cold shoulda labeled lmao​

Clone 1

Clone 2

Roots

Now something I'm not certain of is whether they should be under regularly humidity or if they still need the 75+ of a dome effect but for now I'm still using ziplock bags to trap moisture

Clone 1 post transplant​

She is doing really good getting closer to growing regular leaves and has multiple new growth sights in a 1gal pot

Clone 2
This one more so worried me it has one new growth sight however obviously isn't reveging aswell a clone 1 of we don't get this one to start growing out I'ma have to pop another seed might just go ahead and pop one just in case

Then I've got an sprout of the ice cold this is my last ice cold seed from the breeder anymore will be my bag seeds from outdoor

And we would have an NFSHEEESH sprout going but somehow it like decapitated itself this was the last NFSHEEESH seed from the breeder so I replaced it with a bag seed NFSHEEESH waiting to pop now

Goal is to finish running 4 plants in 3 gal plastic pots but that may change for now I'll be planting everything directly into fabric 1 gallon pots​

 

[toddtony]

Got bored while plants were drying in the tent and wasn't gonna have the space to run any of these freebies anytime soon so currently trying to make a grow in cabinet won't update this much but if I get reasonably good results might start a seperate journal for this

White label Black lime kush and rs11

 

[toddtony]

Update
Still letting the clones reveg and look right before I officially consider veg to have started.
I've got. A 6 day old ice cold seedling
Still trying to get a new NFSHEEESH to pop

humidity has been a pain in the ass to keep up even with the humidifier on full blast I really need roots to fill out pots so I can start fully watering the medium helps keep humidity up. Ive been stuck in the mid to high 50s i'd really prefer low to mid 60s

Clone 1
This one is the better clone growing out better looks it its got its first set of 5 pointed leaves coming in so it's about good to go

Clone 2 is getting better still lagging behind tho but that's fine so long as the seedlings don't surpass it.​

Might be trying to branch out down low

Ice cold seedling
She's doing fine for around 6 days old won't expect her to really start growing until 21 days

 

[toddtony]

For this grow for the most part I'm re using soil from my last grow all I've done is let it sit getting bone dry then I just amended the soil when I was ready to plant, roots and all were left in from previous grow

Medium: Reused sungro black gold and fox farm happy frog potting soil (extra perlite added)
Pot size: 1gallon(veg) 3-5gallon(flower)
2x4x5 300watts
Fertilizer: (veg) espoma plant tone 5-3-3, down to earth alfalfa meal 2-0-1, worm castings 1-0-0, great white mycorrhizae

3Tbps plant tone per gal
1tbs alfalfa meal per gal
2-3tbps worm castings per gal
Ph:6-6.3
RH 53-60
Temps: 75-86



Day 1 Veg
Currently running 175 watts probably 16-20 inches from lights
Finally got an NFSHEEESH seedling to sprout.
The clones are doing good so I'ma go ahead and call this day one . will keep in mind to pop seeds earlier if I do something like this again. I'll probably be brewing the first compost tea around day 6 veg

Clone 1
She is growing out the best still, it's to the point I've started LST on her she's got about 5 branches and much bigger than everything else. Don't see anything besides maybe clone 2 having a chance of catching up with her, she'll definitely be huge compared to the rest of the plants

Clone 2 is looking better every day it's getting there has about 4 little branches

The seedlings are now both going maybe did a little to much water when dropping the NFSHEEESH seed on the left she's about 2 days

The Ice cold seedlings is 9 days think she looks fine

 

[toddtony]

The girls are coming along I hit them with their first compost tea yesterday 24hr brew, worm castings ,alfalfa meal, molasses water. I've also started full saturating the medium

Clones
They are still growing out nice clone 2 now has like 6 branches but it still needs to hurry up and finish reveging and producing full leaves .

Clones 1 is still growing way faster than everything else I have been adjusting the LST on a daily basis

Seedlings
The ice cold is exiting the seedling stage its 14 days today plan on just continuing to let her grow up this week might either top or start LST day 21

NFSHEEESH seedling is a week old today 7 days looking alright

Probably going to have to start spreading them out soon at least seperate clone 1

 

[toddtony]

Update

Today was a watering day hit the girls with some

Clones
Clone 1 im pretty sure is an NFSHEEESH plant I went ahead and topped her today hopefully help some of the lower branches catch up recovery while the new tops come along
Gotta get er spread out but other tan that we cool.
Clone 2 im thinking is ice cold she still producing the funny leaves but fuck it ive got her in LST for like 3 days now just to get er to spread out over the pot

Ice cold seedlings
She's 21 days went ahead and topped her down to

NFSHEEESH seedling
She's on day 14 I'm liking how she looks one of my better seedlings

 

[toddtony]

Transplant Day

Im continuing to use recycled soil from last grow amended with plant tone and alfalfa meal.
Honestly don't really know the size of the pots but definitely 3-4 gallons.
Once the plants get alil taller and I can take some of the boosters out I'ma rearrange how I got them its alil tight with the boosters.

Clones
Im calling these day 29
NFSHEEESH
She's looking good all the plants were thirsty so leaves will probably perk up in a few hours. Idk how well the initial topping did but I think I'ma do one more round of toppings on all branches instead of doing as much LST

Ice cold
She is branching out like crazy. She's what I was expecting from this monster crop process still struggling to produce normal leaves but at least got 3-pointers popping up now

Seeds
These are the best run plants I've done from seed so far no mistakes yet growing at a pretty good rate gonna see if they really take off in these bigger pots.

NFSHEEESH
She is doing well she is on day 22. I topped her for the first time today gonna see how she grows if she also really wants to grow straight up like the other NFS I'll do another round of topping if not LST.

Ice Cold
She's recovering from the topping believe was 8 days ago she's looking good hopefully I can start LST by 14 days post topping, don't plan on topping her again hopefully she'll branch out decent like the other ice cold did.

 

[toddtony]

Compost tea
Gave me a 25hr brew compost tea alfalfa meal,worm castings, molasses water.
Probably gonna come in and pinch some leaves off soon haven't done any defoliation yet

Clones
NFSHEEESH
Not topping yet did bend some branches

Ice cold
Im continuing to stake down branches on here just gonna try and get her as bushy as possible

Seeds
NFSHEEESH
Things are rolling with her already see that she's recovering from the topping yesterday well

Ice Cold
She's doing good looks like it'll be ready for LST soon

Full tent
Gonna rearrange this eventually leaving the middle open doubling up on the sides

 

[toddtony]

Clones
These are day 35
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[toddtony]

Clones
These are day 35
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Clones
day 36
Ive been using water and diatomaceous Earth as a foliar spray still up in the air as to whether DE actually breaks down into anything useful for the plants have seen alot of conflicting information some say no others say yes

That said I feel like the branches feel abit more woody or sturdy they are more prone to pulling my stakes out the soil then I feel they have been around this time in any prior grow and I know silica is supposed to do that might slow down on the application of it making LST difficult though I'm still not sure it's the silica from the DE causing it.

NFSHEEESH
Been coming in atleast twice a day bending the branches been to lazy to figure out something to use tie downs with those I'm thinking I could probably just stick some stakes in the soil and connect the tie downs to those if need be. She's evening out in height the main top isn't so dominant. She is so far the ONLY plant to get any defoliation.

Ice cold
Nothing to much of note with her still branches out like crazy

Seeds
This both put out some real big healthy leaves. Same story with the DE applies to these

NFSHEEESH(?)
She is 29 days old
Could just be phenotype difference but I'm starting to think this one might be crossed with something she is a bag seed from the outdoors NFSHEEESH which everything out there had seeds so who knows what pollinated what, could be NFSHEEESH X OREOZ OR NFSHEEESH X ICE COLD OR MAYBE JUST NFSHEEESH.
Other than all that she is doing well looking healthy been 8days since topping and started LST today. Her growth structure seems like it's gonna lean towards wide vs tall and compact like the 2 last NFSHEEESH plants I grew (you can see this with the clone) it also doesn't seem to have the staggered/asymmetrical nodes like the first two seeds from breeder further making me think she's a cross

Ice cold
She is 36 days old
It's been 16 days since topping here and I think I've been doing LST with her 5 or 6 days. She seems to be doing pretty good got another week and hopefully some additional auxiliary branches will have took off got about 8 tops on her rn​

 

[toddtony]

Clones
Day 38

NFSHEEESH
I topped her yesterday, sunday on all the highest tops mainly just to slow down her vertical growth let the other girls catch up. This on FR is at a point I would flip her to flower she's around 16INches tall and healthy

Ice cold
She is also around a point I would be ok flipping to flower tons of branching and about 14 inches tall

Seeds

NFSHEEESH
She is 31 days old she is only 10inches tall hopefully she can catch up some in about a week when im wanting to flip

Ice cold
She is 38 days old around 12-13 inches tall good amount of branches still got a little bit of developing before I want to flip her but I'm pretty sure she will be good in a week

 

[toddtony]

IM thinking in about 3 more days I'ma flip to to flower on day 45

Clones
Day 42

NFSHEEESH
Been 5 days since the second round of topping on her slowed down vertical growth on the tallest branches letting smaller ones catch up and the shorter plants catch up too

Ice cold
She is doing well got a good height on her plenty of branches to start tucking with the trellis inna few days

Seeds
NFSHEEESH X ?
Day 35
She is doing well definitely gotta be crossed with something but I like the way she's growing don't really gotta train the branches to grow wide they just doing it. All we did was top her once and bend over the main branch. This one responding better than our other plant from seed

Ice cold
Day 42
She is doing good putting on good height LST and Topping worked out alright for her

 

[4our8ighty0]

Hey just found ur thread,I'm currently setting up a continuous harvest using my cabinets and one closet aswell,I've gotten tons of advice on the best way to go. Checkit out sometimes in my posts. Are you use DE as a pest preventative or is there a benefit to plants ? Those genetics on last run are phenomenal 1 day in water,1 day in towel tap root. 1 day in soil breaks surface!!!clones looked dark and vigorous,growth was fast m steady and the calyx's on those buds !!!! The stacking,the bud connections and that milky creamy green when done.....fire.... I'm glad you cloned they was def keepers bro.

 

[toddtony]

Hey just found ur thread,I'm currently setting up a continuous harvest using my cabinets and one closet aswell,I've gotten tons of advice on the best way to go. Checkit out sometimes in my posts. Are you use DE as a pest preventative or is there a benefit to plants ? Those genetics on last run are phenomenal 1 day in water,1 day in towel tap root. 1 day in soil breaks surface!!!clones looked dark and vigorous,growth was fast m steady and the calyx's on those buds !!!! The stacking,the bud connections and that milky creamy green when done.....fire.... I'm glad you cloned they was def keepers bro.

Appreciate it , took a look at ya journal definitely alot of good info there.

The DE was initially for gnats then I read somewhere it can provide silica for plants but, I've seen conflicting views on that some say yes some say no, so just gonna fuck around with it this run and next see for myself if I notice any difference using it

And yeah I'm loving these genetics, these were actually the first seeds I ever bought (first two grows were from bag seeds) and damn did they meet or surpass Expectations
Lucky I got a clone of each gonna take more clones hopefully get a couple mothers going might be biased (just alil)but these were some of my favorite buds in years

 

[waytoofaded]

Appreciate it , took a look at ya journal definitely alot of good info there.

The DE was initially for gnats then I read somewhere it can provide silica for plants but, I've seen conflicting views on that some say yes some say no, so just gonna fuck around with it this run and next see for myself if I notice any difference using it

And yeah I'm loving these genetics, these were actually the first seeds I ever bought (first two grows were from bag seeds) and damn did they meet or surpass Expectations
Lucky I got a clone of each gonna take more clones hopefully get a couple mothers going might be biased (just alil)but these were some of my favorite buds in years

You should be careful with DE, inhaling it can cause silicosis, which has no cure and is often fatal.

Personally I wouldn't want it flying around in a grow space, I reccomend mixing it in into your top layer only.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Lol thanks bro,I starting a continuous harvest,but gotta figure my setup a bit more.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Lol thanks bro,I starting a continuous harvest,but gotta figure my setup a bit more.

I was always curious if the silica that comes in packaging is the same as plant grade silica??? Can you use that as a source of silica?

 

[toddtony]

You should be careful with DE, inhaling it can cause silicosis, which has no cure and is often fatal.

Personally I wouldn't want it flying around in a grow space, I reccomend mixing it in into your top layer only.

Lmao yea I learned that it ain't no good to inhale my first using it fan blow a bunch around...this time around i just threw a little into the soil and added some to a spray bottle