Todd's 2X4 Growing

[toddtony]

Day 50

An update on how the plants are progressing since transplant

This is day 33 (transplant day)
Stunted very bad​

Oreoz in back
Ice cold front left
Nfsheeesh front right

And here is 17 days later 2 1/2 weeks later day 50

Oreoz in back​

Ice cold front left
Nfsheeesh front right

Pretty much all the leaves on all the plants are new growth the oreoz having just a couple old leaves I’d say they have also probably 3x to 4x in size. If growth continues like this which it may be even better now that I imagine the roots have filled out the pots these should have maybe 2-3 weeks left in veg or until the branches are as wide as the pots then into 5 gals​

 

[toddtony]

The outdoor girls are on DAY 32
This is their 4th day outside

I think they are doing ok they are branching out kinda slow don’t know why. I’ll probably top these soon to help force it to branch out a bit more they’ve got some rainwater I now have them covered probably won’t get much sun today. Wondering how the rain water will affect them

The node spacing seem a lot further apart then those indoors I’m hoping that’s because they are outdoors and something to do with sunlight vs LED and not from going into flower they did kinda abruptly go from 18/6 to 14/10 sun is up around 630-7 and down around 9-930

NFSHEEESH2

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[toddtony]

Ice cold 2
This one and the NFS are both 7 1/2 inches tall and wider than the pot

OREOZ 2
This one is 6inches tall and almost wide as the pot

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[Scottay]

Ice cold 2
This one and the NFS are both 7 1/2 inches tall and wider than the pot

OREOZ 2
This one is 6inches tall and almost wide as the pot

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Might grow up to be a beast!! Mwahaha
Happy Wednesday!!

 

[toddtony]

Might grow up to be a beast!! Mwahaha
Happy Wednesday!!

If all goes right I’m hoping to get some 4 ft bushes out of these welcome to the grow

 

[toddtony]

Day 56

The training has been going well for all 3 plants. I watered to runoff yesterday for the first time just enough to check ph was 6.8 after running 6.4 water through the mediums. After they dry will go with a lower ph to bring it down.
Today I came in and readjusted the training as well as a light defoliation just removing leaves blocking growth sights or touching soil .

NFSHEEESH
This is becoming a early favorite it is branching out the best and is recovering great from the topping

New main tops

Ice cold
This one wasn’t topped and is doing well although not as good as nfs

Oreoz
She wasn’t topped this one is smaller than the other two but does have good structure to it easy to train with how it branches

 

[Scottay]

Everything is looking lush buddy! Some good training on those girls!! Happy Monday!!

 

[JiggiLotus]

The stalks are already thick in them 7 inches! They definitely grew outta that shaggy ugliness and are looking like they're gonna love you back

 

[bgsixxx]

They have some tight internodal spacing! Gonna be some stout bushes!!!

 

[toddtony]

Everything is looking lush buddy! Some good training on those girls!! Happy Monday!!

Yep yep Were finally steadily going up happy Tuesday

 

[toddtony]

The stalks are already thick in them 7 inches! They definitely grew outta that shaggy ugliness and are looking like they're gonna love you back

Yeah it’s about time these girls start living right can’t wait to see what they do when I get them in 5 gallon pots hopefully the tent is full

 

[JiggiLotus]

Yeah it’s about time these girls start living right can’t wait to see what they do when I get them in 5 gallon pots hopefully the tent is full

You bet your sweet canna ass it'll be full!!

 

[toddtony]

They have some tight internodal spacing! Gonna be some stout bushes!!!

Hoping for some heavy bushesh when it’s all said and done it’s also interesting seeing how compact they grow indoors vs out my first time seeing it in person

 

[toddtony]

We are on day 32 for the outdoor

They are 10 days outside now and 10 days on 1 gal pots they are growing up vertically well however branching is still slow they all look healthy and appear to be loving life though
Im pretty sure the difference in node spacing is just out vs indoors

Haven’t fed these girls yet should still be plenty in soil

NFSHEEESH 2
Not too much to say bout her she has went from the 7 1/2 inches to about 10 now the top is at 9 however the fan leaves reach up to 10 inches it’s also about 10 inches wide a fewer wider than the pot still no branching

ICE Cold 2

This one is slowly branching out so I felt more comfortable topping her seeing the auxiliary branches that are going to shoot up she was also 9-10 inches tall and 10 inches wide

OREOZ 2
Not much to say with this one either looks good but lacks branching its around 8-9 inches tall and 9 inches wide

 

[toddtony]

We are on day 32 for the outdoor

Day 38*​

 

[toddtony]

Day 64

I’ve done a top dressing of all purpose by Gaia green and worm castings a few days ago however I think I’m ready to transplant these girls soon might be tomorrow waiting on some more Stuff to arrive.
I did a small compost tea with the top dressing just kelp meal and worm castings plus blackstrap molasses
They to have taken well to it.

They have for the most part filled out these 1 gallon pots maybe not exactly how I expected by now but I think for the most part they are good to to the 5 gallon pots. Those will also give me more room to stake things down to get the plants alittle more even now that they all have around 14 tops.

I turned the center light up to 100 the other 2 are on 75 Plants are about 16inches from lights

NFSHEEESH
This one is still growing the best so far as far as indoor goes. Reaches about 9 inches at its highest. Should’ve been done this just slipped the mind

here is how it’s recovered from the topping

Side view you can see how it’s filled the pot

Smaller upper branches are now trainable

ICE cold
This one is staying real short so far although has filled the width of the pot better than the sheeesh it’s just smaller less developed

Oreoz
this one is still filling the pot with lots of growth sights just has a lot more small less developed branches than others

Here is the whole tent
One near black fan Ice cold white fan Oreoz front NFSHEEESH

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[toddtony]

Outdoors girls
day 41
19 days outdoors /1 gal pots

I’d say these are all doing well this is my first time growing outdoors.

All the plants in and outdoor have received an compost tea the outdoor have not had a top dressing though just what came in soil probably am just going to transplant and amend soil then

I’m just sorta observing difference in how the plants are growing vs the other phenos indoor the only thing that would make this better is if they were clones. since they are they same strains

for the most part getting the same treatment outside of climate
same soils pot sizes same soil same nutes however the outdoors do get rainwater and aren’t being trained as aggressively.

With the training I’m not sure how much it’s needed with the sun and wider node spacing they get better 360 degree light penetration I’m sure LST would still help break the vertical dominance and allow the lower growth a boost in that way much like indoors however haven’t really done LST maybe 3 days on the ice cold in beginning (it is the best branched out don’t know if that’s why ) however we did use topping out here with the that same idea plus will defoliate.

Noteable things so far are wider node spacing more rapid vertical and horizontal growth (not branching just a wide single branch)
Slower development of auxiliary branches/branching out(probably something I’m doing vs being outdoors)
Slower to recover from topping (maybe)

These are getting about 14hours daylight 6a-8pm 6-7hours direct sun 11a-6p obviously on overcast days they may get no direct sun but I’d say 5-6 days of the week have been hot and sunny on average since they have been out here. I think it’s noteworthy how consistently hot it’s been 90+ however they do stay well watered (not overwatered)
Last 2 days has been raining and cool sun blocked out
girls got beat up in a brief storm yesterday but look normal today

Got them covered from the rain

NFSHEEESH 2​

This one still really no branching it maybe had one small auxiliary coming from the bottom that got damaged or ate idk but pest or damage aren’t the reason behind lack of branching not sure still why this is. Other than that it looks good and healthy

ICE cold 2
This one is branching out by far the best out here it’s been atleast a week since I topped it however it was branching prior to the topping the topping has helped the lower growth though and the 2 top auxiliary branches are growing out becoming main tops​

This one is why I say “maybe” to the topping recovering slower outdoors as it’s the ice cold vs the nfsheeesh was topped indoors

OREOZ 2
This one just really started putting out auxiliary branches yesterday so I topped it yesterday hopefully it does well this last month of veg

All three
left to right
NFS,Oreoz,Ice cold

 

[toddtony]

Day 65

Today I got the indoors transplanted to 5 gal grow bags honestly not sure what to expect they are backing looking small and insignificant but should grow out fairly quick
I used myco supreme for the myco fungi instead of dynamyco

Idk why but the root balls look pretty bad which means I’m guessing the plants weren’t growing as they should perhaps I still need to water better but yea these roots suck

Ice cold, oreoz , NFSHEEESH

 

[toddtony]

Day 66
1 day post transplant

Things are still looking well I’ve got all the stakes off because I had to remove them to transplant might just keep them off a few days like I did last transplant , let the girls grow up abit.

I’m thinking I need to further tune my water practices I was expecting bigger more developed root systems when I transplanted

Similar to these from my first grow which was better than my 2nd and we will see how this 3rd goes

Roots when transplanting to 5gals from 1st grow

From these pots​

I’m striving to get these roots again and these were bagseeds

I really don’t think I’m overwatering the bottom watering incident was it’s own thing so I’m assuming I might be letting it get to dry between waterings to avoid overwatering

thinking back to how I watered my first grow I also let them get fairly dry to the point they were hydrophobic but maybe it was alittle less dry idk. they were also in garage vs basement but idk if that has anything to do with anything maybe better air quality but it’s probably too hot to move them to the garage I’d imagine it’d be 90 in the tent all month

looking for a sweet spot with watering I guess



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[toddtony]

I think im going to start with just watering the center where the root balls are sitting for the 1st week to get them to root out the center of the pots. Then progressively spread out around the 5 gal pots starting the 2nd week post transplant

NFSHEEESH
This girl is still looking good hopefully she’s stays on track roughly 3x in size in about 2 1/2 weeks and if we keep the roots well should see more vertical growth I bet that’s what’s been holding it back but we’ve got about 15 tops just need them to fill this pot and grow up

Ice cold
She looks good aswell the stem sits alittle awkward might be hard to see in photos fully expect her to 3x in size in 2 1/2 weeks just need to figure that watering issue

Oreoz

This one is going to need some work but should be fine it’s kinda back to being slower than the other 2

Left to right ice cold Oreoz NFSHEEESH