Looks to be the start of some beautiful flowers Tim!
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Thanks! Not bad for a quick grow between grows haha
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With the girls getting so big due to the auto watering, it's a PITA to move them to keep the roots from wrapping the wicks.
I saw this online, anyone ever use it? It goes inside the pot before filling with soil and they claim it prevents the roots from moving out of the bottom of the fabric pot. I may try this next grow.
I saw this online, anyone ever use it? It goes inside the pot before filling with soil and they claim it prevents the roots from moving out of the bottom of the fabric pot. I may try this next grow.
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I'm hitting my usual issues with MC mid flower. I ramped up to 5g at "flip" and all went well. I dont believe it has anything to do with the self watering base, as all was good before the trip. When I went on my trip they got a dry and thats when the lightening and yellowing of some leaves started.
My thought was to up MC. Prior to leaving both were are 5.25g. Orange sherbert on left went from 5.25 to 5.5 on Monday and Weds and was watered 5.5 again yesterday. GSC on right, went from 5.25 to 5.5 yesterday.
I feel like the yellow is spreading to new leaves. Can it be left over effects from going to dry? Too much MC or too little? Could it be the self watering base constantly giving water and nutes?
Monday
Weds
Today
Do folks do less MC with Hydro? I get this is soil but with more roots connecting to the wick, is it more like Hydro?
I watched a video of some dude on YouTube with these bases and MC. He does around 4.5g through flower. But I'm hesitant to do so right now. My thiught is back to 5.25 for all. Or do I need to up MC?
When I last used MC I was letting my pots get super light, wrong move as they weren't getting as much nutes with 2 waterings a week versus 3. Mr Sauga pointed that out. So now I'm wondering...with constant nutes do I need to reduce MC??? But whey didn't I have issues in Veg?
My thought was to up MC. Prior to leaving both were are 5.25g. Orange sherbert on left went from 5.25 to 5.5 on Monday and Weds and was watered 5.5 again yesterday. GSC on right, went from 5.25 to 5.5 yesterday.
I feel like the yellow is spreading to new leaves. Can it be left over effects from going to dry? Too much MC or too little? Could it be the self watering base constantly giving water and nutes?
Monday
Weds
Today
Do folks do less MC with Hydro? I get this is soil but with more roots connecting to the wick, is it more like Hydro?
I watched a video of some dude on YouTube with these bases and MC. He does around 4.5g through flower. But I'm hesitant to do so right now. My thiught is back to 5.25 for all. Or do I need to up MC?
When I last used MC I was letting my pots get super light, wrong move as they weren't getting as much nutes with 2 waterings a week versus 3. Mr Sauga pointed that out. So now I'm wondering...with constant nutes do I need to reduce MC??? But whey didn't I have issues in Veg?
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Adding to the post above. It's been 6 days since I removed the fabric pots from the base. They are definitely working as orange sherbert and GSC have heavy pots....and lots of roots around the wicks. It's going to be difficult to do this weekly in late flower. But the wicks are working well!
While I'm again getting yellow leaves....they are still looking sweet
I did readjust the PH in bases for the first time while using these bases. Ph was 6.8...not terrible drift as they went in at 6.3
GSC
Orange sherbert....she's as big as my two photo grows with GF. Hands down the largest auto I've ever grown
And Blue Dream is shaping up to be a monster too. She's around 28.days old! Her fabric pot is not nearly as heavy and not much roots poking out the bottom.
Pretty incredible their size.compared to my other auto grows. I'll be honest, I'm afraid to do 4 photo periods with these pots starting in late May...they may not fit the 4x4 tent haha
While I'm again getting yellow leaves....they are still looking sweet
I did readjust the PH in bases for the first time while using these bases. Ph was 6.8...not terrible drift as they went in at 6.3
GSC
Orange sherbert....she's as big as my two photo grows with GF. Hands down the largest auto I've ever grown
And Blue Dream is shaping up to be a monster too. She's around 28.days old! Her fabric pot is not nearly as heavy and not much roots poking out the bottom.
Pretty incredible their size.compared to my other auto grows. I'll be honest, I'm afraid to do 4 photo periods with these pots starting in late May...they may not fit the 4x4 tent haha
I remember that West Hippie runs MC in DWC and I think he hits his even harder than folks in soil, so I don't think that makes the difference. Drying out in flower can definitely make the plant drop leaves for a while, but if it's taking new leaves then that's not it either.
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Yea, it does seem to be taking new leaves.
Orange sherbert ...new leaves being taken over:
GSC
Both lead me to believe I'm having deficiencies and I should up MC. I'm around day 50 above ground, day 20 flower and feeding 5.5 plus 1ml cal/mag that the girls have gotten sonce mid veg.
I'm nervous going to 5.75 as I fried aplant years ago doing so but at the rate of leaves getting compromised, they will be totally yellow in a week or two.
Wondering if a flush and 5.75 is warranted or some other additive? 9-7-14 MC just seems low on P and K. I did add .5g Bud Wxplosion to Orange Sherrbert 2 days ago (0-26-37). It didn't help and perhaps made things a little worse. Certainly going to empty her Reservoir and reset it
I do know one thing.....I'm done with MC for good amd need to find a new nute for the next grow.
I'm curious if you've ever slurry tested the pH of the soil you use. I know that most bags of FF I buy (OF and HF) come out lower than specs, so I add dolomite lime to every batch I use when I mix on transplant.
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I haven't slurry tested in a few years. With bottom feeding for a few weeks I'm a little nervous to top feed and push the salts into the middle off the root zone. I did think that maybe the water sitting in bases and the reservoir whole gone may have thrown off the PH
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Day 52 above ground, 32 days flowering
I removed the plants and rotated them all, also removed some risers under the younger (40ish days) Blue Dream, back right. Shes 29" tall now.
I upped MC on the big Orange Sherbert to 5.75. I think it's working and slowing/stopping the color turn. Shes a beast
orange sherbert in the tent, Blue Dream outside.
GSC is now getting 5.5g MC
Ironically, she was the same position as two days ago when I did some moving in the tent. Pretty cool to see the difference in this cola in 2 days.
Saturday:
Monday:
Blue Dream, around day 40 was upped to 5.25g MC. Trying to get ahead on this one as it will be the real test if I use MC again As I'll be home for the rest of the grow. I do like how it grows large plants....IF I can only get it dialed in to have normsl leaves for much of flower. Shes 29" tall.
While it is a PITA to rotate them once a week to stop the roots taking over the wicking bases, I do like the ease of watering. No run off, noting to suck up with the shopvac, just put my pump into the base hoke and fill it up. It takes minutes to water now
also think the constant water availability is helping the size of these autos. While the bases fit 2 gallons, I'm now just using 1 gal at a time so I can adjust MC more quickly as well as not have water sitting in bases for more than 2 days. That should help with PH drift incase that is my issue.
I removed the plants and rotated them all, also removed some risers under the younger (40ish days) Blue Dream, back right. Shes 29" tall now.
I upped MC on the big Orange Sherbert to 5.75. I think it's working and slowing/stopping the color turn. Shes a beast
orange sherbert in the tent, Blue Dream outside.
GSC is now getting 5.5g MC
Ironically, she was the same position as two days ago when I did some moving in the tent. Pretty cool to see the difference in this cola in 2 days.
Saturday:
Monday:
Blue Dream, around day 40 was upped to 5.25g MC. Trying to get ahead on this one as it will be the real test if I use MC again As I'll be home for the rest of the grow. I do like how it grows large plants....IF I can only get it dialed in to have normsl leaves for much of flower. Shes 29" tall.
While it is a PITA to rotate them once a week to stop the roots taking over the wicking bases, I do like the ease of watering. No run off, noting to suck up with the shopvac, just put my pump into the base hoke and fill it up. It takes minutes to water now
also think the constant water availability is helping the size of these autos. While the bases fit 2 gallons, I'm now just using 1 gal at a time so I can adjust MC more quickly as well as not have water sitting in bases for more than 2 days. That should help with PH drift incase that is my issue.
Despite the hiccups, Tim, they're still on point! 
Just based on your posts, it seems like an increase of MC might be the ticket. After I saw the effect on the Sherbert, I'd be tempted to up them all to 5.75g right away. Like you said, get ahead of the game.
Then again, I haven't used MC in a while and never on a swick. Guess that's my way of saying, "Good luck!"
Just based on your posts, it seems like an increase of MC might be the ticket. After I saw the effect on the Sherbert, I'd be tempted to up them all to 5.75g right away. Like you said, get ahead of the game.
Then again, I haven't used MC in a while and never on a swick. Guess that's my way of saying, "Good luck!"
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Haha. It's always good to get another stone's opinionDespite the hiccups, Tim, they're still on point!
Just based on your posts, it seems like an increase of MC might be the ticket. After I saw the effect on the Sherbert, I'd be tempted to up them all to 5.75g right away. Like you said, get ahead of the game.
Then again, I haven't used MC in a while and never on a swick. Guess that's my way of saying, "Good luck!"
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The last two feedings I have added 5ml of Terpinator (0-0-4) to the two older plants and it seems to have stopped the leaf issue. Today I upped Orange Sherbert, the big one, to 10ml Terp. Orange sherbert is at 5.75g MC and GSC is 5.5g. I may up GSC to 5.75
Blue Dream has started to show some.spots on the largest fan leaves with full light. She received 5.25g.MC the last two feedings. Tomorrow I up to 5.5g MC, along with Terpinator. However, I wonder of its a MC issue or if she is not getting enough water. While she is drinking about 1/2 gallon daily, only the very bottom of the outside of the pot is damp...similar to the other girls at that age. The other girls have the bottom 1/4 of their pot soaked. I'm debating about some top water but afraid to push the salts into the root zone. I'll think on this a bit more and see what happens with upping MC.
Damaged leaves aside....they still look good. This side angle is like seeing an ugly woman after alot of drinks, looking good
Blue Dream has started to show some.spots on the largest fan leaves with full light. She received 5.25g.MC the last two feedings. Tomorrow I up to 5.5g MC, along with Terpinator. However, I wonder of its a MC issue or if she is not getting enough water. While she is drinking about 1/2 gallon daily, only the very bottom of the outside of the pot is damp...similar to the other girls at that age. The other girls have the bottom 1/4 of their pot soaked. I'm debating about some top water but afraid to push the salts into the root zone. I'll think on this a bit more and see what happens with upping MC.
looks like a p def and some ph drift going on.
i'd be around 5 g at this point. loads of times i find adding more MC just makes for too hot of a mix. the last couple runs i dropped the MC back and ran a little BE with it and smoothed out the typical MC flower issues.
i never ran anywhere close to the recommended dose for BE, maybe about 1/4 - just under 1/2 dose. BE is insanely hot. you have to make head room for it.
i'd be around 5 g at this point. loads of times i find adding more MC just makes for too hot of a mix. the last couple runs i dropped the MC back and ran a little BE with it and smoothed out the typical MC flower issues.
i never ran anywhere close to the recommended dose for BE, maybe about 1/4 - just under 1/2 dose. BE is insanely hot. you have to make head room for it.
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Yea I tried a little BE on the largest, .4g, and it certainly had the opposite effect of what I was looking to achieve. I was at 5.5mc when I added .4 BE and felt like I needed to back down on MC...just wasn't sure how.much
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I'm in gallons.
I searched phosphorus deficiency online and you nailed it! That's exactly how my leaves look, and the red/purple stems on the largest and oldest girl.
in gallons my mid to late flower MC mix is
1 gal RO
6ml calmag
5g MC
1g BE
5ml h2o2 at 27%
ph'd just before feed
in that order.
i'd be running something just a little under that at your stage.
1 gal RO
6ml calmag
5g MC
1g BE
5ml h2o2 at 27%
ph'd just before feed
in that order.
i'd be running something just a little under that at your stage.
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Thanks Bluter!
Should I run under 5 g MC right now or stay at 5g with say .5g BE?
Curious, why 6ml of calmag? I'm at 1ml Calmag of this stuff
i finish about 5g in late flower on that mix when i use BE. you're a bit early. could experiment a bit, i'd probably try 4.5g, start with the .5g BE to 1G. monitor close
you're showing calmag issues. i find most of the calmag is not available in MC unless you are mixing well ahead. 6ml is a bit heavy. i normally run about a 1/2 recommended dose or less.