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Thirvnrob's Power Plant - TLO Soil In SIP Containers
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Thirvnrob
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Hoping The Lifetime Channel might be interested...You're already writing the screenplay.
No, definitely go with the Lay-Z-Boy. It will be useful no matter what the outcome of the seedling.Leaves, right? Not to go with the Lay-Z-Boy?
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I believe in her…
Almost seems like big sister is waiting for her…
Tomorrow they get their very own journal.
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I just noticed the "stunted" one has a thicker stalk. These weeds never cease to amaze me. I'm willing to bet the runt ends up winning this race...I believe in her…Almost seems like big sister is waiting for her…Tomorrow they get their very own journal.
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Day 16 of flower, day 29 post flip. I mentioned this earlier in the journal so I'm counting it both ways. I am absolutely sold on TLO soil. I didn't let my first batch cook long enough & the mix wasn't right. But this time I must've gotten it right. No apparent deficiencies. They're just chugging along, building buds & making it apparent that I can feel free to continue to provide water & otherwise stay out of the way. I water & do my best to manage the environment. What an exciting journal, eh? Here are a couple pics of the girls in flower:
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The first & third picture is of what was the runt of the litter to start with. She's out-pacing her sisters by a significant margin. I'm really enthralled by her...Day 16 of flower, day 29 post flip. I mentioned this earlier in the journal so I'm counting it both ways. I am absolutely sold on TLO soil. I didn't let my first batch cook long enough & the mix wasn't right. But this time I must've gotten it right. No apparent deficiencies. They're just chugging along, building buds & making it apparent that I can feel free to continue to provide water & otherwise stay out of the way. I water & do my best to manage the environment. What an exciting journal, eh? Here are a couple pics of the girls in flower:
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I've decided to just include the afore mentioned Sour Diesel in this journal rather than journaling them separately. It'll make this journal more interesting to me & hopefully to everyone following. I've already posted a few pics - tomorrow I'll put them in chronological order, but for now, look at the progress the runt of this litter has made & I swear, it's like big sister is waiting. There's a bit more of what i consider debris in Ocean forest these days. I think the "runt" had to get past some of that debris. i know I put the hole for the seed in the middle of the cup, but apparently she grew horizontally before she broke ground.
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LOS is by far the easiest way for me, with best results. Better terps, better flavor.Day 16 of flower, day 29 post flip. I mentioned this earlier in the journal so I'm counting it both ways. I am absolutely sold on TLO soil. I didn't let my first batch cook long enough & the mix wasn't right. But this time I must've gotten it right. No apparent deficiencies. They're just chugging along, building buds & making it apparent that I can feel free to continue to provide water & otherwise stay out of the way. I water & do my best to manage the environment. What an exciting journal, eh? Here are a couple pics of the girls in flower:
Not sure I can take the added excitement of the new sprouts! Flowering plants look terrific, and is that a second set of leaves coming in on Nemo?
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You are correct sir! Notice the big chunk of debris to the left of her. I think she had to work her way through that kind of crap to break ground, but she don't need no stinkin' second coty!
I'm going to have to cook up at least one more batch of TLO soil. Not sure if I want to use Ocean Forest again though. I can tell this is bottom of the barrel material...
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Let's go back to flowering - when does it begin? Is it when we flip the lights to 12/12 or when it shows pistils? Which is day one of flower? I love technicalities & this is one of them. With my current grow I can make this point: It took 13 days after flipping the lights for these girls to show me some pistils. The expected flowering time is 8 weeks, so 56 days, right? That would mean that 43 days after I see pistils (give or take a few days) my buds should be ripe. I've referred to the time between flip & pistils as transition & by god, I love using the term! (Thanks to @Emilya Green for fueling my obsessive-compulsive tendencies, would love to hear your thoughts). The thing is, counting flowering days the way I count them I'm still convinced I'm consistently harvesting too soon (due to need for weed) & I just don't see these girls being finished 37 days from now. I'd love to be wrong...
Seems to be grower's choice. I do like you do, flower for me is from first flush of pistils (not a few random ones here and there I have to find with a scope).
That timing seems to line up better for me with the breeder estimates, although some breeders count from flip.
That timing seems to line up better for me with the breeder estimates, although some breeders count from flip.
When it right, it's so right! I'm with you!
Emilya Green
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Good Morning!
I have always believed that there is a transition period between veg and bloom. Nothing in this world happens instantly and I see the flipping of the lights to 12/12 to only be a signal to the plants that a new phase is coming. This external trigger tells the plant to start doing flowering things, instead of vegging things, and it takes a while to transition things over, including the new prime directive that all goes toward the forming of those buds. I believe this transitioning period takes longer in long running sativas and I have seen it take 11 to 14 days for those plants to transition. Fast 7 week bloom indicas transition quickly, and we see pistils in 6 or 7 days from them. To be clear, I am not talking about a few pistils here and there, like you see all over the plant still in late veg. I don't consider the transition to have occurred until instead of new green growth at the ends of branches, we see the beginnings of the little puff balls of pistils that we call buds coming in instead.
It is my experience that most breeders also follow this method and that bloom times are usually just that, the actual blooming time of that strain. Since I have been doing this, my harvests are always within days, if not exactly on, the date that is provided by the breeder's recommendation.
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I remember reading one of your journals a couple years ago - around the same time Durban Daddy was born wherein you posted a pic & called it first day of flower. I had also read something you had written about the transition from veg to flower & it made perfect sense to me so that's the way I've counted flowering days since then. It was 13 days after I flipped the lights on this grow before I saw flowers. 13 days is a pretty long time in a flowering countdown. My experience has been just as you stated - one of my Indica grows transitioned in 5 days. This grow took longest to get there. This is what I called day one of flower for this grow. The white pistils weren't there the day before...
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I think you nailed it! I have seen it take 14 days... but 11 seems to be common for most sativas. I predict that yours will be very long running, like 14-16 weeks of bloom.I remember reading one of your journals a couple years ago - around the same time Durban Daddy was born wherein you posted a pic & called it first day of flower. I had also read something you had written about the transition from veg to flower & it made perfect sense to me so that's the way I've counted flowering days since then. It was 13 days after I flipped the lights on this grow before I saw flowers. 13 days is a pretty long time in a flowering countdown. My experience has been just as you stated - one of my Indica grows transitioned in 5 days. This grow took longest to get there. This is what I called day one of flower for this grow. The white pistils weren't there the day before...
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The breeder claims 8 weeks, but again, I don't expect them to be anywhere near finished 37 days from now. This is a Sativa dominate hybrid so I'm already planning on letting her live a little longer than her predecessors...
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The Diesel sisters are coming along. Big sister is getting bigger & little sister is taking her time. If the history of my gardens repeats it's self, little sister will be the star of the show. I really didn't think she'd thrive at first, but she's holding her own & starting to show some roots. I'm a little annoyed with myself - I procured Dynamyco & forgot to add it to the cups.
The humidity dome works...
The humidity dome works...