The Quadsquad Thread: A Community For Quadlining

[VetSmoke85]

If that made any sense I've been smoking some pink grapefruit. Depends how many colas you're trying to achieve to how many fan leaves you might need to remove. Yours looks pretty busy so may need a few more taking. Have you left all the nodes off the 4 main branches grow up or removed some? Some people just keep a couple of the ones growing out the sides off the 4 main branches. Some keep them all. Some keep the ones coming out the top too but it's best to just get rid of everything growing out the underneath of those branches.

 

[parrajara]

If that made any sense I've been smoking some pink grapefruit. Depends how many colas you're trying to achieve to how many fan leaves you might need to remove. Yours looks pretty busy so may need a few more taking. Have you left all the nodes off the 4 main branches grow up or removed some? Some people just keep a couple of the ones growing out the sides off the 4 main branches. Some keep them all. Some keep the ones coming out the top too but it's best to just get rid of everything growing out the underneath of those branches.

I wish I could remember! This whole grow is a bit of a blur lol. I joined this thread late, so my training is just a modification of quadlining... on my future grows I will attempt the real quadlining

 

[Ducky1]

don’t know what is going on with everything but the 2 seedlings I put into the pots didn’t sprout, tried again with another 2 and these did not sprout either, another 3 seedlings have not germinated so I’ve just given up and transported the 2 original ones I had into the big tent under a 600w light. There’s seemingly been no growth at-all with them so I’m gonna veg them for 2 weeks under here then flip them to flower, see if I can get 10z or so out of them.

i don’t know what’s going on lol, I’m not a particularly bad grower, I had 15z off my last batch so I know I’m not terrible (unless my last grow was just pure luck ollowed everything that I have previously done in soil but just is not giving me a break this time around!!

gonna try to germinate another 4 tomorrow to look at getting them in the baby tent. They’ll end up having roughly 2.5-3 months veg under a 250cfl.

anyone have any experience vegging for that long under a 250cfl? I gradually up my doses of nutes until it hits the 4 week mark then I use the maximum recommended amount per litre. Would this be the same? Just up the nute amount until the 4th week then continue vegging for another 1.5-2 months with that maximum nute amount?

edit : sorry forgot to add.....any advice for these two in the photo? Plant at the back has yellow fan leaves. Do I trim them? At this point there will be no fan leaves at-all.

 

[Ducky1]

this has to go down as one of the most botched grows ever in the history of growing ever lmao. I looked at the one plant at the back left and I just touched it ever so slightly to see if there’s a way I can train it outwards and it snapped. I don’t know how it was so delicate to do that. Problem is it was in a bad position, there was no way I could’ve cable tied it back on because the node on the other side could’ve snapped too and I wouldn’t want to risk losing both nodes. I’m so sad and feeling so defeated right now with this grow. A few days back I was being optimistic thinking/Hoping I could pull ten off it. At this point I’m going to be happy pulling 8.

edit : last photo was what I was eventually trying to achieve today. Looks good now but I’m sad about the one node coming off. How much am I looking at potentially losing due to this mess up? I imagine not as much as I would have if it was in flower right?

 

[Dohc007]

Try moving the lowest branch around to get it more semtrical and let it stand tall .
It should take off and then pull it back level with the others.
Breakages happen but don't worry.
The plant will just give that energy to other branches.

 

[Stunger]

this has to go down as one of the most botched grows ever in the history of growing ever lmao. I looked at the one plant at the back left and I just touched it ever so slightly to see if there’s a way I can train it outwards and it snapped. I don’t know how it was so delicate to do that. Problem is it was in a bad position, there was no way I could’ve cable tied it back on because the node on the other side could’ve snapped too and I wouldn’t want to risk losing both nodes. I’m so sad and feeling so defeated right now with this grow. A few days back I was being optimistic thinking/Hoping I could pull ten off it. At this point I’m going to be happy pulling 8.

edit : last photo was what I was eventually trying to achieve today. Looks good now but I’m sad about the one node coming off. How much am I looking at potentially losing due to this mess up? I imagine not as much as I would have if it was in flower right?

Hey Ducky, that's most unfortunate. Last year I accidentally bumped one of the main 'arms' of one of my quadlined girls, its whole stem structure must have been under a fair amount of tension from all the constraining training wires, and with the help of the sudden 'bump' the main stem split right down the middle. I just taped it up and thankfully it was OK.

Perhaps your plant was under some similar structural pressure and snapped upon the contact made. If taping up is possible then very often it recovers fine but when it is too severe it is a right royal PITA as you are left to ruminate on what that branch could have produced in buds.

 

[Stunger]

Time to give an update on my Godfather OG from our sponsor @Weed Seeds Express. I started her close to 2 months later than last year's grow in the misguided belief that I'd get a smaller, easier to manage, and less smelly plant. Last year I was hoping for maybe 6-8oz from 3 plants and instead got 23oz which gave out quite a dank smell and caused me some anxiety in regard to what message this could be sending out to the neighbours.

However, the re-amending I carried out on my container soil over Winter must have hit the spot, as so far she's got to this size with no top dressing in quite a short time. I add worm wee in with each watering, and occasionally (2 or 3 times) I've added half a teaspoon of fish hydrolysate, kelp extract (Seasol) and Humid/Fulvic acids also to the watering. I've tied her up, broken and crushed her stems, but she still keeps motoring on, what a girl!

She is growing in living organic soil in a 50L (13gal) container.

She was Quadlined using her 3rd and 4th nodes, and because she only grew 1 side of her 2nd node I thought, what the hell, and left that one on too, so she is really a Quinline. She is roughly 3 months old now and this last week has just started showing a few pistils at her nodes.

To show how far she's come, here's a pic of her half her life ago (6 weeks ago), at about 6 weeks old

Godfather OG

• Stunger
• Dec 9, 2020

And here she is today after 6 more weeks of growth. She is still short, less than 1.5 feet tall, and has received 5 rounds of supercropping and LST to train her shape and height. She looks happy and I believe that's the main thing for growth.

Godfather OG - 26/Jan/21

• Stunger
• Jan 25, 2021

Godfather OG - 26/Jan/21

• Stunger
• Jan 25, 2021

Godfather OG - 26/Jan/21

• Stunger
• Jan 25, 2021

As I am only posting in here occasionally, check out my grow journal for this grow and my other girls too if you want see more (link in signature). Be safe, keep safe, and happy growing everyone.

 

[Brian420pm]

TwoLine vs QuadLine vs SixLine

After 4 grows I wanted to write out my experience and choose one method to use from this point forward.

TwoLine...

QuadLine...

​

SixLine...

After the initial training for each type to a specific number of branches I would remove all other branches, LST and supercrop for an even canopy. Here is my current grow as an example...

​

First I want to define exactly what I did with each.

TwoLine

• Top #1 - above third node, kept third node, 2 total branches​
• Top #2 - next node, 4 total branches​
• Top #3 - next node, 8 total branches​
• Top #4 - next node, 16 total branches​
• Total 6 nodes growth​

QuadLine

• Top #1 - above fourth node, kept third and forth nodes, 4 total branches​
• Top #2 - next node, 8 total branches​
• Top #3 - next node, 16 total branches​
• Total 6 nodes growth​

SixLine

• Top #1 - above fourth node, kept second, third and fourth node, 6 total branches​
• Top #2 - next node, 12 total branches​
• Total 5 nodes growth​

You'll notice the SixLine requires the least amount of time to finish all the topping... 5 nodes of growth compared to 6 nodes in the others and less rounds of topping. If I were only choosing for time then the SixLine would be the winner, but there are other important considerations.

Three of the four SixLine plants had underdeveloped branches from the lowest node. They were thinner and some didn't even reach the canopy. The SixLine plant pictured above was the only one that grew even branch thickness... I'm assuming a phenotype variation. Since three of four did poorly in that regard the time gain from growing out less nodes is not worth the effort. Perhaps keeping initial nodes 3, 4 and 5 instead of 2, 3, 4 would show a more even branch thickness.

I've come to prefer 16 colas instead of 8 or 12 or 24. It's a nice even number and they'll fit perfectly in the 16 squares of a 2 ft x 2 ft trellis net with 6" holes. I have 4 plants in a 5 x 5, but would still work great in a 4 x 4 with the same trellis net.

That leaves me with two options, the TwoLine and QuadLine. As a side note here is a TwoLine I came across recently, very pretty girl!

​

What other differences are there between the two techniques that could shift favor? The QuadLine has one less round of topping, so less work in the tent. Also, the TwoLine is a bit 2 dimensional where the branches are coming up in a flatter orientation, compared to the QuadLine that is growing out four sides of the main branch. Maybe easier to train.

So looks like QuadLine FTW!

Would love to hear from anyone else that has done comparisons or has comments, thanks!

 

[Dohc007]

Still dabbling with my quads/hexlines.
This is a great write up and confirms the thoughts I was trying to assemble in my brain.
Just upppotted my next attempt today and will definitely going quad.
Cheers.

 

[Dan Dark]

As quadlining has become bigger and bigger on these forums I have seen that anyone interested in it has been able to receive the help they need on their own journals. Recently I have decided that it would be really fun to have a quadlining thread where people can come together and share their experiences and cool pictures. Some people also don't have journals so this will help provide a home where anyone can ask any questions they want. The #Quadsquad has some of the top growers on the forums and this will be a place where people can ask questions, learn about quadlining and just have some fun with it. This thread will be anything and everything about quadlining.

First of all let me start off by saying Happy 420 to everyone here! What better day to start a thread then on the best day of the year? Second, I will give a little history about quadlining and then a quick step by step guide on how to perform quadlining and the benefits of it.

Quadlining started a couple of years ago when I was trying to come up with a training method to get a good, low, even shape to the plants without slowing them down too much. Fluxing took way too long to perform and Mainlining also took a long time in veg to accomplish. Neither seemed like good fits for what I was trying to achieve. Instead I took a combination of both training methods and made quadlining. I've always said it isn't rocket science and it isn't anything brand new but I've put them together and created a system to allow aggressive growth without slowing the plants down much at all. It redistributes energy to focus on 4 main support branches and tries not to waste energy on things that will not amount to anything in the end. It also achieves a nice, even canopy with good spacing for airflow and light to penetrate decreasing the chance of mold and problems while increasing yield. Keeping them low also allows for growing in tight spaces or with height restrictions like most indoor growing. These were all the goals I wanted to achieve and quadlining does just that.

So what do you do to quadline? In a short summary to quadline you top above the 4th node of a plant and remove nodes 1 and 2. That leaves with you 2 nodes left on the plant (nodes 3 and 4). These nodes each have 2 branches each and you take those 4 branches (2 nodes and 2 branches each) and train them to the edge of the pot creating a perfect "X" shape for all the other nodes to grow off of. These will also have the 4 main colas at the end of them (or towers as some people have dubbed it)

Where the circles are at on this photo was where the 4 nodes originally were. Just to clarify there are 2 branches that come out of each node. The bottom two nodes (4 branches) were stripped away very carefully The plant is at such a young time take extra precaution when pinching or cutting them off!

BC2AEDDD-1B12-4017-863F-DC7A79C01267.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Mar 7, 2018

Here is a photo where I was helping someone before the nodes were pulled off. The X's show what is being removed. The line is where you top at.

DA50FEF3-544A-43BF-AA48-F00A7EA7430B.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Apr 2, 2019

This is a plant I grew where I have stripped but not yet topped.

FAFE4245-F808-412E-B253-A39AFFEF9A4A.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Dec 4, 2018

This is the same plant but now topped.

A83A0A0F-63C9-4988-9881-5153CB63DABE.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Dec 4, 2018

This is the same plant a day or two later.

9666D155-240A-4C0A-B58B-02624A06FA86.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Dec 5, 2018

This is the same plant a few days after that.

C4CC3BC9-F918-4D0C-B4F4-27C0363CC999.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Dec 11, 2018

At this point there has been nothing else done to plants. Most people will just top their plants and the only difference between that and this is that I strip away the bottom 2 nodes to force all the energy to grow out the 4 main branches left. To me this is a very important step. In my experiences it's been a waste of energy to let all that stuff below grow and it doesn't even produce much in the end. If you want you can also spread the tips out with your fingers a bit which is really hard to show but here is a picture anyways. This can help keep node spacing tighter and give a little more light in there when things get a little bushy and bunched up.

Here is how I spread the middle nodes out a bit. Just some light bending and spreading.

60D5C0C5-DC69-49E5-AE20-4EA46B80C794.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Dec 3, 2018

At this point I've already put the plant through enough stress that I really don't want to clip anything else off or bend anything. It's not a ton of stress but they are little so you don't want to over-do it. I always like to strip the bottom two nodes a day or two before topping to give the plant a little time to recover. Doing everything all at the same time can cause extra delay and we don't want that. Also if you are growing multiple plants then I highly recommend to do each one when they are ready and not on a planned schedule. Different genetics grow at different rates and you should always do things to your plants based on how they look and not based on a scheduled time frame. If you are growing multiple plants then rarely can you strip and top at the same time. That means they all have to be at the exact same spot and that will rarely happen, especially if they aren't all the same genetics. Also it is key to note that if you are growing in soil, this could all take a little longer to recover then if you are growing in Coco or Hydro. If someone growing in Coco has a plant that recovers quicker and is larger, well that is just the nature of growing in a hydro medium. Doing any training or topping in soil will always take a little longer to recover and usually plants just aren't as big in soil as they are in Hydro. You will still have beautiful plants but you might be wondering why they don't look as big as someone else's plants and really it's as simple as genetics or growing medium.

Next, as the plants grow larger and start to really pick up the pace in veg, I will use my fingers to bend the 4th nodes branches to let the 3rd nodes branches catch up to them. Sometimes a plant will do this naturally but there is an in between stage where plants are still to fragile to really be tied down so I just slowly bend that top node with my fingers to start getting the branches to grow horizontally. Here is also a key to note. There are certain hormones (auxins) that aid in regulating plant growth. If a branch is growing completely horizontally then it sends different hormones to that branch then if it was growing completely vertical. When you start pinning down branches you always want to keep them tied down to the point where there is a 10-20% grade to them and not completely flat. If you don't do this then the 4 main branches will slow way down with growth and the middle will explode and you want to keep everything nice and even. It is hard to recover from this once the 4 main branches really slow down.

I don't have a great picture to show this angle but you can see that the branches are not completely horizontal in this picture and do have some angling to them.

D3D9D45B-3B2B-4662-80D0-2F6C0DEACBA3.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Jul 19, 2018

So once the plant really kicks it into aggressive veg mode then it is time to tie them down. There are numerous ways to do this but the way I do it is with metal hooks and tomato wire. Some people who use hard pots drill holes and use string. Other use those fuzzy ties. There are all sorts of ways to do it but find something that will be fairly sturdy so the plant doesn't pull them out. Training ties are no good if they can't hold the plant into place. Also try and refrain from using small metal wire or things of that nature. As the plant grows the thin, hard wires can cut into the plant and then the plant is wasting energy constantly repairing those wounds. It's also good to note that a plant will get bigger and stronger and sometimes will require multiple ties to hold down a single branch.

291F845A-17AA-45C7-AB34-77188A5DFE35.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Apr 4, 2018

This is where the fluxing part of the plant comes in. Once a plant starts getting tied down then you keep all 4 branches even until they all reach the edge of the final pot. While they are aggressively growing but haven't reached the edge yet the plants will get very bushy and require some defoliation. This allow even light distribution so all the new nodes growing off the mains will start to grow. Periodically during this phase I will clip off the fan leaves the point to the center of the plant that block all the new nodes light. You can usually do them all at once and you will often pull them in sets of 4. You pull 1 fan leaf from the same spot on each of the 4 main branches.

This is an example of a leaf that will need to be pulled because it is blocking the node under it's light. The leaves that face towards the outside of the pot very rarely block anything so I don't pull them. The ones facing the middle I get rid of.

5D74ABD5-ED20-4172-B6D0-40734B641941.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Dec 23, 2018

The next step that I take and you do not have to do this but on every other node on the 4 main branches I remove the bottom branch. All of the odd nodes will be nice and even and grow out the sides of the main branch when it's pinned down but all the even nodes will grow a branch on top and one on bottom. The one on bottom never catches up to the canopy and ends up being "larfy" nugs. They never get dense enough and that is due to not getting enough light penetration. So I remove the bottom branch and the fan leaf associated with it. I also remove the top fan leaf because it blocks light. In the end this really helps with spacing anyways but if you do not want to do this you do not have to.

The arrow points to the node I remove on the bottom. you can see I've already removed the fan leaf on top. I do this pretty much the whole way through veg or at least until I really start letting the plant grow vertically.

AD17FC2D-E5C9-41D1-A1A6-F166817108E3.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Jun 2, 2018

Once the plant is trained to the edge of the pot it should look something like this. In this picture the plants were not in their final homes yet so when I transplanted them into their final homes they were practically ready to be flipped. I always try to transplant earlier then this but everyone does that differently. This was just a good example of how the plants should look in terms of symmetry with the quadline. You can see that nice "X" shape that the 4 main branches make. At this point I would just start letting the plant grow vertically then I would flip to flower.

A73A4937-BC24-4C02-9FDC-C77A55F9EA39.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Jun 2, 2018

During stretch I try and keep the plant as even as possible by using the ties and doing some bending/supercropping. You can pinch the stems of branches to slow the growth down a bit. You will feel the cell walls squish in but don't do it so hard the branch falls over. Just enough to cause a little damage to have to repair so that cola slows down a bit. I keep all ties on the plant until the very end of stretch and at that point if they aren't doing anything anymore (aka when you remove them the plant doesn't move at all) I pull them off. You can keep them on for all of flower if you like but you'll find the plant has hardened and taken shape and most of the time they don't contribute to anything anymore. At this point you can do some defoliation right after stretch to open the airflow up and light penetration. During this defoliation I will remove any small or weak branches that I know won't make it to the canopy. I also lollipop each cola as the bottom stuff doesn't get much light. Then you pretty much just let them grow out the rest of the way into some big, beautiful, bushy plants.

Just flipped to 12/12.

59ECABB3-9A8C-4CD9-A62F-9C90AE434852.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Feb 3, 2019

Stretch.

65A0F985-D205-4BF8-96BA-531613A008B7.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Feb 1, 2019

Little budlets forming.

D5D07CE5-7A9E-4497-A2F3-63A1B6C34938.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Feb 14, 2019

Colas stacking and major defoliation done between budlet phase and stacking phase. Usually this is where I pull the ties off and the plants just grow from here on out. Not much else can be done training wise and you want to avoid any stress in flower anyways.

032E965B-0E17-4CA7-8F95-65DC3889094F.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Feb 16, 2019

View from above.

8C131D31-B59E-4D36-9B1F-351464298F5E.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Mar 3, 2019

Colas.

52CF0B0E-6539-4093-A668-DC9BC8CEC84D.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Mar 15, 2019

Almost finished.

E7C36F1F-5F04-4511-A820-6B8C702231EA.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Apr 7, 2019

Trimmed from above.

DB0CABF8-C25D-4CA0-944D-0EC9723C907D.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Apr 9, 2019

Sideshot showing lollipopping and thickness of colas.

147F521E-B895-41D1-B176-1911993A689F.jpeg

• Asesino85
• Apr 9, 2019

Really the flowering phase of quadlining is pretty boring but you get to see all the training pay off in the end. You can see in the last picture how nice a big the colas get and how even everything pretty much stays. Both of these working together is what gives a larger yield which is why most people train their plants in the first place. By doing quadlining you aren't adding more then a week extra in veg then if you would just do them normal and you don't have to worry about any height restrictions. Fans are able to blow air to all of the plant because it is nice and even. There isn't a huge, taller cola blocking the way to the others. Same thing goes for light. The 4 main branches also are very stable and will be able to support the heavier colas without them flopping over. Sometimes you have to tie a cola or two up but these plants are like rhinoceroses. Short, stocky and strong.

This thread is created to be able to ask questions or just plain showoff what your quadlined plants look like. The #Quadsqaud OGs (my top quadliners @Derbybud @DobeWan @Mr. Magoo @Dutchman1990 ) will be here to help as well and I look forward to having all people trying quadlining all in one thread finally! If you do Quadline, throw a #Quadsquad tag up in your signature. Let's see what you all are doing with this fun training method! Lastly, this would have never came to be without these great forums here at 420 Magazine so a big thank you to all the moderators and people who make this thing run. All the information I've ever used for growing has come from this site and this site only. Quadlining is a 420 Magazine original and I'm proud of that!

I started quadlining and only now realize how f'ing big these plants may get. I am at 4 weeks into it and I have 5 plants - now I see this I have no idea where I will put all of that biomass! Maybe I'll have to buy another 4x4 tent! I mean wow, thank you for the lesson!

 

[Stunger]

A little update of my Godfather OG from @Weed Seeds Express. This girl is growing like a trooper. I feel she is really loving the LOS (living organic mix) that I re-amended over Winter, so far she's only been watered since sprouting.

Godfather OG between balcony sisters - 4/Feb/21

• Stunger
• Feb 3, 2021

Godfather OG overhead pic - 4/Feb/21

• Stunger
• Feb 3, 2021

Keep well everyone and happy growing!

 

[Dohc007]

Looking amazing @Stunger

 

[Stunger]

Looking amazing @Stunger

Thanks Dohc, now that flowering has started I am really looking forward to her progress.

 

[Weed Seeds Express]

A little update of my Godfather OG from @Weed Seeds Express. This girl is growing like a trooper. I feel she is really loving the LOS (living organic mix) that I re-amended over Winter, so far she's only been watered since sprouting.

Godfather OG between balcony sisters - 4/Feb/21

• Stunger
• Feb 3, 2021

Godfather OG overhead pic - 4/Feb/21

• Stunger
• Feb 3, 2021

Keep well everyone and happy growing!

Wow Stunger, those babies look amazing!!!

 

[Ducky1]

uh oh. Little break when trying to adjust these. Being a little too aggressive with them. Would you cable tie these?

 

[Thirvnrob]

I broke one of mine a few weeks ago. She’s not as far along as yours, but I just left her alone - didn’t touch her for about 10 days & she’s a little taller now than the rest of the canopy. It was a bad break - I figured that branch would whither & fall off but you can’t even tell now...

 

[Thirvnrob]

This is a better pic. The one I broke is on the left. I literally let it hang as I wasn’t sure how to fix it & she healed herself. These plants never cease to amaze me...

 

[Rugsy]

My first attempt at a quad went a bit sideways indoors, so I put her in the garden and she blew up!! You can’t really tell from the pic, but this girl started out with four main tops, then doubled, then doubled and so on until I had around 70 tops on a 9.5 foot tree and got 2.9lbs of fruity bud. The quad approach gave me a super strong base that I am sure helped to get this girl into the monster category. Strain is skittles, seeds from I49.

 

[Rugsy]

TwoLine vs QuadLine vs SixLine

After 4 grows I wanted to write out my experience and choose one method to use from this point forward.

TwoLine...

QuadLine...

​

SixLine...

After the initial training for each type to a specific number of branches I would remove all other branches, LST and supercrop for an even canopy. Here is my current grow as an example...

​

First I want to define exactly what I did with each.

TwoLine

• Top #1 - above third node, kept third node, 2 total branches​
• Top #2 - next node, 4 total branches​
• Top #3 - next node, 8 total branches​
• Top #4 - next node, 16 total branches​
• Total 6 nodes growth​

QuadLine

• Top #1 - above fourth node, kept third and forth nodes, 4 total branches​
• Top #2 - next node, 8 total branches​
• Top #3 - next node, 16 total branches​
• Total 6 nodes growth​

SixLine

• Top #1 - above fourth node, kept second, third and fourth node, 6 total branches​
• Top #2 - next node, 12 total branches​
• Total 5 nodes growth​

You'll notice the SixLine requires the least amount of time to finish all the topping... 5 nodes of growth compared to 6 nodes in the others and less rounds of topping. If I were only choosing for time then the SixLine would be the winner, but there are other important considerations.

Three of the four SixLine plants had underdeveloped branches from the lowest node. They were thinner and some didn't even reach the canopy. The SixLine plant pictured above was the only one that grew even branch thickness... I'm assuming a phenotype variation. Since three of four did poorly in that regard the time gain from growing out less nodes is not worth the effort. Perhaps keeping initial nodes 3, 4 and 5 instead of 2, 3, 4 would show a more even branch thickness.

I've come to prefer 16 colas instead of 8 or 12 or 24. It's a nice even number and they'll fit perfectly in the 16 squares of a 2 ft x 2 ft trellis net with 6" holes. I have 4 plants in a 5 x 5, but would still work great in a 4 x 4 with the same trellis net.

That leaves me with two options, the TwoLine and QuadLine. As a side note here is a TwoLine I came across recently, very pretty girl!

​

What other differences are there between the two techniques that could shift favor? The QuadLine has one less round of topping, so less work in the tent. Also, the TwoLine is a bit 2 dimensional where the branches are coming up in a flatter orientation, compared to the QuadLine that is growing out four sides of the main branch. Maybe easier to train.

So looks like QuadLine FTW!

Would love to hear from anyone else that has done comparisons or has comments, thanks!

Great pic

 

[SaltyDog]

My first attempt at a quad went a bit sideways indoors, so I put her in the garden and she blew up!! You can’t really tell from the pic, but this girl started out with four main tops, then doubled, then doubled and so on until I had around 70 tops on a 9.5 foot tree and got 2.9lbs of fruity bud. The quad approach gave me a super strong base that I am sure helped to get this girl into the monster category. Strain is skittles, seeds from I49.

I could live with that mistake.