The Quadsquad Thread: A Community For Quadlining

[EhCndGrower]

really no idea what’s going on here. We’re coming up to nearly a month veg and this is all I have. The 2 bottom nodes on each plant curled up and died when I checked today. At this point I’m thinking of packing these two in and germinating 4 fresh seeds, at least I will be on top of it all then. I’m a day into germinating two seeds to add to this so I was going to veg 2 fresh seeds for a month or so then put these and the 2 seeds I veg for a month in the big tent then veg for another week or so and flip. So the end result is going to be 2 larger plants and 2 smaller plants. Good idea or just scrap it all and start fresh?

I think they are root bound and need to be moved to a bigger pot. I have a Creamsicle plant given to me by a neighbour a few weeks back (about a week old) and by last week it started to look stunted/wilted in its solo cup. Moved to a bigger 7G bag and she has recovered nicely and would expect the same for your girls above. Here’s what happen after 5 days in her new home

 

[Ducky1]

I think they are root bound and need to be moved to a bigger pot. I have a Creamsicle plant given to me by a neighbour a few weeks back (about a week old) and by last week it started to look stunted/wilted in its solo cup. Moved to a bigger 7G bag and she has recovered nicely and would expect the same for your girls above. Here’s what happen after 5 days in her new home

I’ll get larger pots tomorrow and plant them relatively deep so they’re a lot shorter/stockier than they currently are, maybe I can train them a bit then as they just seem to be stretching. Hopefully tomorrow the 2 seeds pop so I can add another 2 plants to the tent and maybe figure it all out

 

[Ducky1]

New pots are in. Other seeds have not yet germinated. These look a bit better now but still concerned with the yellowing and edges of the leaves looking as if they’re dying.

 

[Stunger]

I think they are root bound and need to be moved to a bigger pot. I have a Creamsicle plant given to me by a neighbour a few weeks back (about a week old) and by last week it started to look stunted/wilted in its solo cup. Moved to a bigger 7G bag and she has recovered nicely and would expect the same for your girls above. Here’s what happen after 5 days in her new home

Good job getting her recovered!

 

[Ducky1]

WOW! I have to say I am completely shocked how different these look in 24 hours by just transferring pots. This is crazy!

 

[Dohc007]

Weeds love to grow.
They just need room.
Good work mate!

 

[Dohc007]

The yellow leaves might not recover, probably just the stress of the previous pot.
When you start training them (quadlining) you can just trim them off. It won't hurt anything.

 

[Ducky1]

The yellow leaves might not recover, probably just the stress of the previous pot.
When you start training them (quadlining) you can just trim them off. It won't hurt anything.

Thanks for the advice man, I’m honestly so shocked at the difference in them from just a day after being in a different pot it’s incredible! I will take that into account though, at this point I don’t even know how to quadline I’ll be honest lol, I’ve already cut off the first 5-6 nodes (previous posts show what I have cut off before) so I don’t even know if more nodes are going to grow. I guess I’ll just have to wait it out and play it day by day. I won’t be flipping these for at least another month anyway until the seedlings I have are ready to flip too.

 

[parrajara]

The yellow leaves might not recover, probably just the stress of the previous pot.
When you start training them (quadlining) you can just trim them off. It won't hurt anything.

Hey, so im having that dilemma right now. I transplanted a week ago and my ladies are loving their new home... but the older fan leaves are very yellow, and some of the new growths are yellow with brown spots.... I waited way too long before transplanting and it damaged my plant. Ive removed some of the worst leaves, but im not sure if I should continue? The only two big fan leaves are yellow, all other fan leaves are smaller - with some being healthier than others. Here a couple of pictures of my lady. A
What would you recommend? You can see the smaller fan leaves have a bunch of brown spots and some are curling.

 

[Dohc007]

Thanks for the advice man, I’m honestly so shocked at the difference in them from just a day after being in a different pot it’s incredible! I will take that into account though, at this point I don’t even know how to quadline I’ll be honest lol, I’ve already cut off the first 5-6 nodes (previous posts show what I have cut off before) so I don’t even know if more nodes are going to grow. I guess I’ll just have to wait it out and play it day by day. I won’t be flipping these for at least another month anyway until the seedlings I have are ready to flip too.

Looks like you have a good bit of growth happening now so just start training the taller branches down/ out.
The goal is to have a nice even spread around the pot.
My first quadlining adventure too.
Some of mine have 4 branches some 5
The plants natural shape will dictate this to a degree.

 

[Dohc007]

Hey, so im having that dilemma right now. I transplanted a week ago and my ladies are loving their new home... but the older fan leaves are very yellow, and some of the new growths are yellow with brown spots.... I waited way too long before transplanting and it damaged my plant. Ive removed some of the worst leaves, but im not sure if I should continue? The only two big fan leaves are yellow, all other fan leaves are smaller - with some being healthier than others. Here a couple of pictures of my lady. A
What would you recommend? You can see the smaller fan leaves have a bunch of brown spots and some are curling.

Those yellow leaves will die off eventually so I'd trim them off.
Your new growth is looking healthy and I see you are starting to train them into shape.
Give it some time and love and you'll be good.

 

[parrajara]

Those yellow leaves will die off eventually so I'd trim them off.
Your new growth is looking healthy and I see you are starting to train them into shape.
Give it some time and love and you'll be good.

Thank you. I was worried that removing the 2 big fan leaves would be too stressful, but i also dont want my lady to continue wasting energy on them. Ill remove them all next watering

 

[Ducky1]

Seedlings are now in aswell. Hopefully no f###ups before flipping to flowering in 5 weeks

 

[Stunger]

My Godfather OG is starting fill out, she will start outdoor flowering any day soon over the next 2 weeks. Growing in LOS (living organic soil), watering only with a bit of worm wee, the balcony is getting into the 30's Celsius and she's getting thirstier now. The sensible side of me wants to keep her to a sensible size and not get too big, but not always easy to contain a growing girl. She's about 30 inches/75cm in diameter which I'm about happy with altho I can be a greedy bugger when allowed to dream!

This pic from 15 days ago

Godfather OG

• Stunger
• Dec 29, 2020

Yesterday

Godfather OG - 13/Jan/21

• Stunger
• Jan 14, 2021

Today

Godfather OG - 14/Jan21

• Stunger
• Jan 14, 2021

Keep safe and be well everyone

 

[VetSmoke85]

WOW! I have to say I am completely shocked how different these look in 24 hours by just transferring pots. This is crazy!

Well done on transplanting them. They were crying out for more space.

What would you recommend?

What are you feeding them and what is your pH like. Looks like you're in soil right?

My Godfather OG is starting fill out

She looks amazing. Healthy and bushy. Gonna be a monster.

 

[Dan Dark]

Just a few more of my favorite pictures from grows I've had with quadlining.

The very first quadline. An Aurora Indica by Nirvana seeds.

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• Asesino85
• Sep 14, 2016

White Rhino training.

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• Asesino85
• Nov 6, 2016

White Rhino finished.

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• Asesino85
• Feb 5, 2017

Chemdawg training. Must have taken the ties off for the picture but nowadays I never take them off until stretch is over.

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• Asesino85
• Nov 9, 2016

Chemdawg from above.

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• Asesino85
• May 10, 2017

Chemdawg finished.

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• Asesino85
• May 20, 2017

Auto Cherry Bomb Quadlined.

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• Asesino85
• Aug 12, 2017

Purple Envy Quadlined.

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• Asesino85
• Feb 17, 2018

Jack Herer Quadlined.

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• Asesino85
• Mar 10, 2018

Tent of 4 different plants all looking about the same even though they are all different strains.

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• Asesino85
• Mar 23, 2018

Thick stalks to support big colas!

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• Asesino85
• Jan 26, 2019
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Double Berry Quadlined.

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• Asesino85
• Mar 3, 2019

Girl Scout Cookie Quadlined (Pulled 8 oz). Sometimes the 4 main branches stretch way more then the others creating a shape like this. Often times happens with really strong sativas. Still a great result in the end.

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• Asesino85
• Mar 23, 2019

Tangerine Dream Quadlined. This one filled a 4x4' tent and I just chopped her down. Ended up with about 18oz from her. Instead of vegging 5 weeks like I normally do with plants, I vegged her 8 weeks. The best plant I've ever Quadlined.

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• Asesino85
• Apr 7, 2019

I encourage anyone who has quadlined to say hello and throw a couple pictures up of their favorite quadline moments in their own grows.

y timing in finding this journal is outstanding. I literally just popped some Aurora Indica and have some other auto-flowers I may try this with on the way! This is a really outstanding journal with clear explanations, photos that made it super easy for me to follow as I performed the early steps on my babies!

I did one Aurora a few days ago and was so happy with it I just finished out the other 5 in early growth today. Starting at seedling then letting them get back into shape before repotting was an awesome idea too. I purchased bigger pots - 7 gal and 10 gal fabric pots based on what I see there as well, should give my girls a bit more for root growth and spreading these branches.

Thank you, I hope my end of grow harvest photos look like these!

 

[parrajara]

What are you feeding them and what is your pH like. Looks like you're in soil right?

I am growing in soil. Started with Happy frog and transplanted to a mix of Happy Frog and FFOF (top third HF, bottom two thirds FFOF).

I have not pH regulated the water or soil, since it was my first grow and i choose photoperiods. Learned a lot since, and now I have ordered a Bluelab pH pen to regulate water pH... its specially important since my next grow will be autogrow seeds.

For my one plant, in the bottom third of it, I mixed a third of the recommended dose of Gaia 4-4-4, Gaia 2-8-4, Gaia EWC, and some microbes. I also put microbes (mycorrhizae) on the surface where the transferred occurred. For my other plant, I did not do this. Mind you, the one I did not do this to was already having some issues due to being root bound.... but, the plant that I fed extra nutrients to (in the bottom third of the soil) is thriving in comparison.

I just removed a bunch of fan leaves that were blocking branches/growth sites about 2 days ago.... But its full again. I heard its better to do it all at once, but im not sure what you do once it all regrows; to defoliate more or wait a bit longer.

This is what she is looking like right now.

 

[VetSmoke85]

 

[parrajara]

This is where the fluxing part of the plant comes in. Once a plant starts getting tied down then you keep all 4 branches even until they all reach the edge of the final pot. While they are aggressively growing but haven't reached the edge yet the plants will get very bushy and require some defoliation. This allow even light distribution so all the new nodes growing off the mains will start to grow. Periodically during this phase I will clip off the fan leaves the point to the center of the plant that block all the new nodes light. You can usually do them all at once and you will often pull them in sets of 4. You pull 1 fan leaf from the same spot on each of the 4 main branches.

This is an example of a leaf that will need to be pulled because it is blocking the node under it's light. The leaves that face towards the outside of the pot very rarely block anything so I don't pull them. The ones facing the middle I get rid of.

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• Asesino85
• Dec 23, 2018

The quote above from OP, is the part im trying to figure out... if new fan leaves emerge overnight, remove them right away, so you remove less leaves at once but more frequently?

or wait until this happens to a few nodes on the branches, and defoliate more leaves at once but less frequently?

 

[VetSmoke85]

Yeah as they grow out and you see them starting to cover a node/new branch on the inside of the quadline you cut them off. Like in the pic. The leaf from the top of the branch that's going to block the light from the growth further down. There will be one on all 4 ends growing back into the middle. Get rid. Once they're gone they're gone. Then that lower growth is free to grow and catch up to the canopy level.