The Perpetual Healing Garden - SweetSue's Joyful Return

[arteekay]

The fluid you're finding is probably "guttation".

It's a hydrolic pressure imbalance, with higher pressure inside the plant than outside, and fluid escapes through the stoma.



Guttation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well look at that. Thanks Graytail.

While I have had some Sativas that have knocked the sh*t out of me, I haven't really noticed a diuretic effect!

Best laugh of the day. Could be related to the big fat joint of Pigeon's Jackelope, but that's besides the point.

You deserve my confidence, girl!

And please, if you knew my parents you probably wouldn't think much of me either. But thankfully they don't get to hold anything other than the title of being parents. Not good ones but parents.

I think very highly of you Emilya and I don't give a shit if I don't know you outside of this magazine. You're pretty Kool in my eyes

I'll second everything here. We're exceptionally lucky to have Em around.

What was so confusing was that, although it was the wrong consistency for sap, it has the full terpene range of the plant, both in smell and taste. But it evaporates. This is last night's leaf, today.

Thank you Graytail. Mystery solved and our brains all got a little smarter. Love:

Huh, that picture could have easily been from my garden, for probably half the plants we've grown. I've been blaming it on sweat from the leave above and/or nute splash. Never thought to sniff or taste it, not sure why now that I think about it.

In a week that spot in the pic above will look terrible, assuming it follows the same course as ours.

 

[Emilya Green]

The fluid you're finding is probably "guttation".

It's a hydrolic pressure imbalance, with higher pressure inside the plant than outside, and fluid escapes through the stoma.



Guttation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Science! As many of you might have guessed, I love science. I can now see how, why and when this will happen in our tents. I know I have seen it too, but I just assumed it was plain water... now I am going to have to capture some of this, just to check out it's magical qualities. Could this be the famed nectar of lore?

If we have plants in full transpiration right at the end of the wet/dry cycle, they will have their maximum pressure in the xylem and all the leaves will be reaching up toward the light. Watering slowly at this point will "fill" the plant up to its maximum, since the roots will be in full suction, and a lot of the initial water given will immediately move into the massive root system.

Now, if we continue to water slowly, we saturate the soil in the container, essentially making the entire container a pool of water as far as the roots are concerned. We have all seen what happens with water pressure... since a large portion (and weight) of that water will now be above the majority of the roots...

It is here that I predict that where "hydraulic pressure imbalance, with higher pressure inside the plant than outside" occurs. I think we can make this happen, and hopefully harvest some of it.

 

[SweetSue]

Daily Update: Friday, August 5, 2016

Good evening everyone. I trust your day was a pleasant, joyful experience? If it was more challenging than you cared to endure, take heart in the advent of Friday night. It's the weekend guys. Kick back and chill a bit. Care to check the garden with me? Let's start in the Auto tent, shall we?

I can work with this.

Dark Devil Auto (Day 46) She smells fantastic!!

Just starting to set the heads on the trichomes.

Industrial Plant (Day 18) We Have Growth!!! Her color's improved and it appears she's decided to come to the dance after all. Nothing like actually feeding the little one, is there? Lol! I gave her a light watering.

Still waiting......

The Kit tent. The Carnivals (Day 10) Here they go.

Still a bit warm in here, but not unworkable. The other tent has a fan pushing in cool air from the floor. I might be well-advised to do the same here. It'll be trickier, since there's no outlet over on that side. Hmmmm......

Carnival #1 She's hell-bent on being the star. Can't you see it?

Carnival #2 Looking carefully, it appears she's growing a bit faster. Maybe she has plans of her own.

Med GOM 1.0 (Day 48) The info on her says 60-65 days from germination. That might be pretty close, so I better get ready to drop the next DDA into this pot.

I can smell her when I walk through the front door. It smells like home.

She has about another 2-3 weeks to bulk these colas up.

She really is beautiful and she has more perfume than the first one I grew. All indicators are that this plant will make excellent oil.

I'm going to grab a bite to eat and settle in for a rare evening of free surfing. I'll be stopping in on a few yards, so I'll see you around. Spread the joy!

 

[SweetSue]

The fluid you're finding is probably "guttation".

It's a hydrolic pressure imbalance, with higher pressure inside the plant than outside, and fluid escapes through the stoma.



Guttation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Graytail, I'm reading the information on Wikipedia on guttation, and wondering about something.

"Guttation fluid may contain a variety of organic and inorganic compounds, mainly sugars, and potassium.[1] On drying, a white crust remains on the leaf surface."

When it dried on the leaf there was no white residue. More like an oily film.

Do you think this could be explained by the fact that it's cannabis we're talking about? The cannabinoid, terpene and flavinoid profiles are unlike any other plant. I'd think that would cause fluids to be a bit more exotic.

Just a bit of stoned speculation on my part. Thought I'd throw it out there.

 

[SweetSue]

I just watched my very first viewing of "House Of Cards", which I'd pulled up on the iPad thinking it'd be interesting background while I filled a couple trays of capsules. Good God, that was riveting!!! Kevin Spacey is a genius and I feel priveledged to be able to watch him work his craft. Wow! That was fun. Took longer to get those capsules done, but I didn't spill a drop.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what it's all about. I'm now tentatively supplying them to a friend's husband to help with arthritis, and I increased my own dose to four a day (with great promise, which I hope to share about soon). I went from supplying two people at three capsules a day each to four people, three of whom may end up at four a day. Hmmmm..... Better improve at growing and encourage the husband to grow his own.

So are they helping, you ask? Yes indeed they are, at least for my daughter and I. I won't know about the friend's husband for a while, and we're still trying to work out a blend for my walking buddy. I'm encouraged that she's continued taking one at bedtime while we experiment. Lol! The girl's got gumption. I like that.

While the daughter and I were discussing the capsules this evening she mentioned that the sinus infection had apparently gone away - an unprecedented event for her. That was when I realized that the pain in my back hadn't bothered me in days. She also commented on how nice it was to crawl into bed at the end of the day tension-free, where any position was comfortable.

These are worth more than gold to me.

 

[Graytail]

Do you think this could be explained by the fact that it's cannabis we're talking about? The cannabinoid, terpene and flavinoid profiles are unlike any other plant. I'd think that would cause fluids to be a bit more exotic.

Just a bit of stoned speculation on my part. Thought I'd throw it out there.

I first saw this in pics from a fellow HB grower a year or so ago. I've had what Arteekay describes, and I think that's all it is - "sweat", condensation from two leaves touching. (BTW, have any of you spent time in a largish room of growing plants with no noisy fans? - just sat there for awhile? You can hear them grow. You'll hear leaves flick and shift as the tension releases. They'll make all sort of fascinating sounds. ... anyway ... ...)

But guttation is different, as you can see from the example pics. I've occasionally found a small pool of fluid in the cup of a leaf where the blades separate from the petiole. That's gotta be guttation, for instance.

And I suppose the crust would have to do with a lot of factors, like nutrients.

The plant I first saw had fluid oozing out of it - unmistakeable - not just one leaf or spot on the plant - several examples. I can understand how a specific environment can kinda set up a "harmony" that excites the plant to store and expel water. I never got a sense of whether it's a good thing or not ...

... ... I wonder how that compares to the concept of flushing? ... could it be beneficial? ... like a backflush? ...

Ya, I'm loaded, too ...

 

[SweetSue]

I had a flash of you sitting in the barn, loaded and listening in the middle of the night.

 

[MagicJim]

My Dark Devil auto had these drops. Here's a magnified look.

One other interesting fact when I read my own journal....this followed a 6 inch / week growth spurt.

Tent Grow - Jack Herer - White Widow & Amnesia Haze - Mars II LED

 

[AngryBird]

I just love reading your journals and threads.. it always makes me smile when I am sad. thank you for being here,

 

[arteekay]

I first saw this in pics from a fellow HB grower a year or so ago. I've had what Arteekay describes, and I think that's all it is - "sweat", condensation from two leaves touching. (BTW, have any of you spent time in a largish room of growing plants with no noisy fans? - just sat there for awhile? You can hear them grow. You'll hear leaves flick and shift as the tension releases. They'll make all sort of fascinating sounds. ... anyway ... ...)

I get the "sweats" far more commonly when there's leaves stacked up, so I'm glad to hear my diagnosis wasn't far off. I've found it doesn't matter what I do, where the condensation was will always degrade and die off quickly. I do make sure there is not a magnifying glass of moisture there when I put them back into the tent.

But guttation is different, as you can see from the example pics. I've occasionally found a small pool of fluid in the cup of a leaf where the blades separate from the petiole. That's gotta be guttation, for instance.

And I suppose the crust would have to do with a lot of factors, like nutrients.

Here's my crybaby, a CKS purple kush who sobbed for a couple days in early veg whenever she'd come out of the tent for pics and whatnot:

It was when I was putting them all back in the tent that I noticed our little Purple Kush silently sobbing:

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Now I get the drops from where her branches were popped off, and the drip on the cotyledon below that, but the tiny drops at the points of the leaves, that's new to me..

 

[SweetSue]

My Dark Devil auto had these drops. Here's a magnified look.

One other interesting fact when I read my own journal....this followed a 6 inch / week growth spurt.

Tent Grow - Jack Herer - White Widow & Amnesia Haze - Mars II LED

I'd forgotten all about that Jim. Thank you for digging it out for us.

I just love reading your journals and threads.. it always makes me smile when I am sad. thank you for being here,

It warms my heart to know this.

I get the "sweats" far more commonly when there's leaves stacked up, so I'm glad to hear my diagnosis wasn't far off. I've found it doesn't matter what I do, where the condensation was will always degrade and die off quickly. I do make sure there is not a magnifying glass of moisture there when I put them back into the tent.

Here's my crybaby, a CKS purple kush who sobbed for a couple days in early veg whenever she'd come out of the tent for pics and whatnot:

The pictures you guys shared are amazing. Look how much smarter we all are today! Yesterday I wasn't even aware guttation even existed.

 

[AKgramma]

My bubblelicious do this, too. It's called transpiration, and occurs when the humidity is high and the plant is moving water through its system. You might see these in your clones while they are under a dome, too.

 

[Tead]

In my world, I see transpiration spots when the temps get lower. I've used a dehumidifier to address the issue and it's been quite effective. I'm especially sensitive to it because of my local humidity.... if I see the water spots, I know my buds are nearing the budrot risk zone.

 

[SweetSue]

Daily Update: Saturday, August 6, 2016

Good afternoon everyone. Time for another update. The only maintenance today was watering of the Industrial Plant in the hempy pot.

Starting in the auto tent........

Dark Devil Auto (Day 47) Steady as she goes. If I get one ounce out of her that'll potentially give me at least 3 grams of oil that I can convert into capsules and make it stretch further. She's still got a month to thicken up.

I went back and pulled a picture of my very first Dark Devil Auto at Day 49. I recall she went over 80 days. I was concerned about her size too and she gave over an ounce in the end. There's hope.

Industrial Plant (Day19) A little better color, a little more growth. I'm encouraged. She got fed again today. The droplets are pure PH-balanced water.

Next door in the Kit tent, the Carnivals are now 11 days old.

Yeah, I see that spike. It'd be nice to know when that's happening.

Carnival #1 is the top picture. See who decided to become the star? The definition in #2s leaves happened overnight. Cool, competitive spirit. I can live with two plants trying to outshine each other.

Med GOM 1.0 (Day 49) Quiet beauty.

That's my report for the day. I won't be starting another plant just yet. I'm working through some scheduling and haven't decided which I want to grow yet. I'm planning a vacation in the early part of next year that'll necessitate shutting down for a week and I'm considering running all Dark Devil Autos from here to the end of this grow. That should give me a stock to hold me while I try some other strains. From an oil perspective I need to try the Lemon Skunk Auto and there was one Shiggity's grown that was an amazing trichome producer too, but the name escapes me at the moment. It might be his Pineapple Fields. I need to find potent strains that produce good qualities of oil, so it's time to start exploring my seed bank for considerations.

It's a glorious Saturday afternoon here in The Burgh. I pray your day is as sparkling. Take every opportunity to extend your personal bubble of joy out into your neighborhood and beyond. It'll make your day even better.

I'll be seeing you around the yards. I got all caught up in the first three episodes of "House of Cards" last night and neglected everything else. What sweet indulgence. Now I have some catching up to do. Lol!

 

[SweetSue]

In my world, I see transpiration spots when the temps get lower. I've used a dehumidifier to address the issue and it's been quite effective. I'm especially sensitive to it because of my local humidity.... if I see the water spots, I know my buds are nearing the budrot risk zone.

I can see where this would cause you grief in your climate. Not such a problem in mine. In this environment the accumulated moisture simply evaporates away. It's obvious though how this could be problematic in a full tent.

My bubblelicious do this, too. It's called transpiration, and occurs when the humidity is high and the plant is moving water through its system. You might see these in your clones while they are under a dome, too.

Transpiration is what occurs during the day when the stoma are open. Guttation has the same result, removing excess fluid from the plant, but it's caused by root pressure and occurs when the stoma are closed.

 

[KeifKeith]

Tears of Joy ... that is what my Mom called leaf transpiration. She said that many plants cried with joy, happy that they had received moisture. She knew what is was really called and why it occurs, but she always spoke of plants as if they had emotions. Sweet lady she was, a great mom and horticulturist. If you turn off your exhaust fan for a day right after watering, they can drip like dew, literally wetting the floor in transpired humidity.

Keith

 

[AngryBird]

Just beautiful

 

[SweetSue]

Tears of Joy ... that is what my Mom called leaf transpiration. She said that many plants cried with joy, happy that they had received moisture. She knew what is was really called and why it occurs, but she always spoke of plants as if they had emotions. Sweet lady she was, a great mom and horticulturist. If you turn off your exhaust fan for a day right after watering, they can drip like dew, literally wetting the floor in transpired humidity.

Keith

How appropriate.

 

[Emilya Green]

last night my plants in veg were in full transpiration (leaves all standing up) and they needed water for the first time in 5 days. They got a nice tea and seemed to enjoy it greatly. Today I was in there trying to determine if I have more than just one female out of 15 starts, and 7 survivors, and lo and behold, just as predicted, there were pools of water on many of the leaves. I am not proud of it, but I actually licked a leaf. Tasted like water. Felt like water. Sap from a wound is different. Not sure I would lick that. Nope, thinking about it as I wrote it, I definitely would not lick that.

Hmmm... seems these weeds fling water around the room. Who knew?

 

[SweetSue]

last night my plants in veg were in full transpiration (leaves all standing up) and they needed water for the first time in 5 days. They got a nice tea and seemed to enjoy it greatly. Today I was in there trying to determine if I have more than just one female out of 15 starts, and 7 survivors, and lo and behold, just as predicted, there were pools of water on many of the leaves. I am not proud of it, but I actually licked a leaf. Tasted like water. Felt like water. Sap from a wound is different. Not sure I would lick that. Nope, thinking about it as I wrote it, I definitely would not lick that.

Hmmm... seems these weeds fling water around the room. Who knew?

Interesting, because what my plant oozes is full of terpenes. The taste and smell are an exact match to the smell and taste of the buds. Yes, I have tasted.