The Mountain: Grow Support From The Over 50 Club

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Hey I'm just popping in real quick to let you know that the Lord has again blessed the Bride of Holler and me with a piece of heaven. We found a mountain top piece with a creek oxbow around 3 sides of us. The other side of the creek is DBNF. Picture Disney's Sound OF Music with the scene where they are running in this mountain meadow. Now in your mind's eye replace Julie Andrews and all of those cute little kids with me in my bibs joint in one hand and holding hands with my Bride in the other! Ha! Great fishing, canoeing, kayaking and growing.
I am already working on land prep. Spring water so that's got to be checked out yet. As we say, whenever we jump onto one of life's carnival rides....."Here we go!"
 
Holler,
More power to ya bro. Only wish that I could join ya and do such a thing on the next mountain top over. Luv it. Peace.
 
Hey Folks! Been busy as all get out! Yoop we would love having you down there. Guarantee it would be some stoney times my friend. Better bring some Koegles with you! I love those damned dogs! We are getting ready to head back down to the new place . Septic is going in dozer work going on and hopefully the barn-doe-minium will start going up soon. I'm excited to get it done because I just received some new varieties for my play room. I'm going outside my box and trying a crapshoot of varieties. Heres what I have so far.

-China Yunnan 10 regs to see what can come up with out of these genetics
-Ken Estes Purple Champagne- Kind of a last minute grab and I got the last 10 beans that they had here
- The Original GDP x with an unknown Kush - These came from a friend that has kept a GDP clone going for longer than I can remember
and this is one of his favorite crosses.
-Rare Dankness Ghost Train Haze #1- I have heard both good and bad on this strain. But a friend of mine shared some with me from his grow of this variety. 13 weeks flowering on his longest specimen but........I may still be buzzed and I smoked it back in September... a truly long lasting buzz which I like for working on the farm
Top Tao Auto mix #1- This was a kind of "What the heck." purchase. Regular seeds maybe I'll find something fun here.

I have some others coming too and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they get here before we leave! Thank you all again for your prayers and encouragement. Best of luck in all you grow!
 
Hey Folks! This will be my last post for a while as we officially move to the new ground on Thursday through Saturday. All of my proclaimed land race seeds made it . So now I will have some new growing adventures and I am as excited about that as anything. I'm switching to DWC buckets from my old school rock wool in trays with drip lines. I just can't bring myself to go LED with the lighting. However, I am going with 3- dimmable digital ballast MH/ HPS 1000 watters in my flower room. Also I am able expand my sq. footage. Even though it has been quiet here on The 420 Mag Mountain I hope that this thread will continue in the mean time. Either way I will document, ( and the Bride of Holler has agreed to let me do a photo journal), of my new construction. Best of luck in all you grow!
 
uptheholler2 said:
Hey Folks! This will be my last post for a while as we officially move to the new ground on Thursday through Saturday. All of my proclaimed land race seeds made it . So now I will have some new growing adventures and I am as excited about that as anything. I'm switching to DWC buckets from my old school rock wool in trays with drip lines. I just can't bring myself to go LED with the lighting. However, I am going with 3- dimmable digital ballast MH/ HPS 1000 watters in my flower room. Also I am able expand my sq. footage. Even though it has been quiet here on The 420 Mag Mountain I hope that this thread will continue in the mean time. Either way I will document, ( and the Bride of Holler has agreed to let me do a photo journal), of my new construction. Best of luck in all you grow!
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Looking forward to the new adventures neighbor. You'll love the DBNF area.
 
uptheholler2 said:
Hey I'm just popping in real quick to let you know that the Lord has again blessed the Bride of Holler and me with a piece of heaven. We found a mountain top piece with a creek oxbow around 3 sides of us. The other side of the creek is DBNF. Picture Disney's Sound OF Music with the scene where they are running in this mountain meadow. Now in your mind's eye replace Julie Andrews and all of those cute little kids with me in my bibs joint in one hand and holding hands with my Bride in the other! Ha! Great fishing, canoeing, kayaking and growing.
I am already working on land prep. Spring water so that's got to be checked out yet. As we say, whenever we jump onto one of life's carnival rides....."Here we go!"
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Very cool. I'm several hundred miles away at least, but our geography isn't too different. I moved here this year and love it. Congrats to you and wife.
 
Hey folks the barn/house is up and I am excited to start designing the new room. Much better insulation. (Boy is that stuff getting expensive)
I am over wiring this place, but I should have a very nice 240 to 300 square feet of space and a great ceiling height of around 10 feet. I am bringing all of my water and drain lines under the concrete. With a total ceiling height of 14 feet venting is going to be a breeze! I have been looking at a lot of lighting source options from our valued 420 sponsors but as yet I'm like my Bride in a shoe store... I cant make up my mind. But I think I am going with 3- 1000 watt digital dimmable MH/HPS. I just have always used regular fluorescent shop lights fro clones and will probably continue down that road. I am expecting my pipe bender and then we will start greenhouse construction. I already have a couple of folks that want to buy greenhouses from me so that may end up being another future source of income.

Dang quiet on The Mountain! On an unrelated but fun note....we just ordered our 2 sit on top fishing kayaks......now I can't wait till spring for more than just one reason!!
Best of luck in all you grow!!
 
Sounds like you've really got it going on! I built our place 12 years ago and insulation wasn't cheap then. In construction, nothing is cheap except our own labor. I also live in the mountains, but a little further west, and 45 miles from a real town. The quiet and clean air and no people make this kind of living perfect for me. Of course we sometimes miss picking up the phone to order a pizza but everything is a trade off.

300 sq ft! Holy cow, that's industrial sized! That is a lot of room! You'll be able to grow marijuana trees! Will 3 lights be enough? I thing floros for vegging are terrific.

I've been watching your move from the sidelines and I always admire a person who is not afraid to take a risk and follow their dreams.
 
Hey Llama! Yep she's gonna be a big space. But I'm a big boy! At the old place I had one main flower area in the barn. But, I had another building that I vegged in and even a separate small area that I ran my clones and kept my Mom's in. It was a lot to monitor the environment in three different buildings. Now every thing is going to be in one climate controlled area and I am hoping for the ability to run 12 month's a year. If you talk to folks who run barn grows a lot of times it's seasonal from late winter to midsummer and from late summer to early winter you can have a crop. But, during peak summer and butt biting winter you were out of luck. I have lived in the hills my whole life but I truly have already fallen in total love with the DBNF areas. Rugged, but beautiful.......just like me!!! Best of luck in all you grow!
 
Just a quick note on my grow room construction project. I have decide to use fiberglass reinforced insulated structural panels. White fiberglass sheeting which sandwiches 1 3/4 foam insulation. Totally washable should make sanitation a breeze. ( They make coolers and carwashes out of this stuff.) R17 insulation value should give me a year long room. Nice white reflective surface should keep the light bouncing around. 22 inches by 64 inch panels- 5.00 each! Deal me in Brother! Other DIY'ers may want to look into this stuff. No internal framing required, although mine will be framed since I am attaching to the barn walls. It may be a great alternative to tents for basement or garage projects. They are routed out on the edge and overlap they are then riveted or self drilling screws are used to attach the overlapping edges. A horse couldn't kick them down. A final added plus is that they qualify as green energy improvements and maybe deductible for you accountant types out there! Best of luck in all you grow!
 
holler,
You go bro. Ain`t no stopping` you. Watch out on the next mountain over, some damn Yooper may show up, he, he, he. Puff, puff, pass, while we wait.
 
Hey Yoop! I'd love to have you on the next ridge. Work is really going now. Framing inside.. Concrete drying... doors on. we are addressing water options. We have a spring but it is just too far down to be pumped up. Looking at drilling a well down below creek level to see if we hit.
May just install a concrete block cistern with a concrete floor and drop in a 1000 gallon tank and truck water from the spring. Not my favorite option, but, we have never let anything keep us from getting the job done and I don't plan on starting now!. By the way, while weather has been so nice, it's a great time to start scoping out grow sites for spring. We are already getting close to turning the corner on day lengths on Dec 21st. Good time to start pulling blowdowns and brush into little corrals on the sunny slopes. If you do it now stuff drags easily...chain saws don't attract a lot of attention and the biggest plus is that you can trim away branches and limbs that obstruct sunlight. It also will allow critters to start picking paths around your little hole. If you do these things now you can radically cut down on problems and the time required to set plants in the Spring.
 
The Mountain is freaking beautiful this morning. We took a leap of faith yesterday and drilled a well where no one had tried it before. We in were blessed with 5 gal a minute! We had to drill through 150 feet of limestone then we got into a crevice and hit at 180 feet! Now it testing to see what the new water is like. I am interested in dissolve minerals..... and pH. Then we will see what we will be working with in the room. Trying not to let grass grow under my feet and SIP's for the grow room get delivered today. Installation of electric will follow. Man this is starting to come together! Best of luck in all you grow!
 
Hey Folks! My SIP's arrived yesterday. I am more convinced now that these would be the ideal answer for DIY grow room construction. If you are considering buying a grow tent or to conventionally frame out a room in the basement or garage I would look into them. Here is the math for a small 7x7x8 foot grow room. The panels that I ended up buying are 7 feet long by almost 2 feet wide. They are attached to each other self drilling screws only. 21 panels at 7 bucks a piece means a total cost of the panels at 147 dollars. You will need about 6 dollars worth of screws and hole or jig saw to cut ventilation holes water lines etc. But the real advantage is the R17 insulation value and the bright white washable fiberglass walls. Also the ceiling when made of this material would easily support lighting etc. If you are trying to grow in a poorly heated or cooled garage its the way to go. Heck I'm going to make a couple of new dog boxes, my well house and even a hidden cooler inside of a bench when I get to building the deck. For an inexpensive cloning or veg box I would think that would be another good use. For those who aren't familiar with these panels... think of them as the individual panels from an insulated garage door routed out so that they fit together. Cool stuff. Best of luck in all you grow!
 
Ok here comes an old farmer, hat in hand asking for advice from my friends on the Mountain. After much deliberation I am going to experiment with a part of my new grow room by jumping into the 21st century world of LED lighting. After I have gotten over the shock of pricing and felt my way through the B.S. of marketing of these products to the horticultural world I have kind of narrowed down my options.
At first I looked at Mars ( a valued 420 mag Sponsor ) but to be honest I am not getting a lot of warm and fuzzy feelings there when it comes to hard data. I then had about decided on a couple of Diamond XML 650 's from Advance LED ( Another valued 420 Mag Sponsor). But at 1595 each it is a hard pill for and old guy like me to swallow. I am going to be using a light rail with any LED since the coverage just isn't what I am accustomed to and that plus the price tag makes it necessary to spread the love around the room. But now I'm also considering going with a COB lighting system from Timber ( Yet another valued 420 Mag sponsor!) At around 600 each you can buy 2 for every Diamond xml 650. But the coverage area is lower but probably with more canopy penetration and with 2 the 1 pricing difference it almost makes up for the coverage. However with a COB if you lose a light , you are pretty much down where with an LED panel system your still up and operating. Soooooooo..........here I am throwing it out to my friends on the mountain to give me your opinion. I know I should have probably tossed this onto a post on the grow light thread but I really don't want an endless debate between folks or sponsors. I want to know IF it was YOU..... and you were designing a new room. Which direction would you go. I had already decided that I was just going to go with double ended HPS/MH fixtures with dimmable digital ballasts.....then I visited a buddy's grow with an Advance LED on a light rail and the resin formation was quite impressive. I would be grateful for your thoughts. Your Ol' Buddy Holler!
 
Hey Thanks Folks! Rifleman I almost went with 3 Mars II but I was having trouble getting real info. I was basically told just to try them. Hey Millerthanks for the suggestion. The heat or lack there of was one of the things that attracted me to LEDs. Out in the sticks with a barn growt is what usually shuts us down. I'm constructing with SIPs and that going to help a lot. I think that the new Advanced LED panels that my buddy runs has the UV-b bulbs and his resin production is about 25 % greater than with his old HPS/MH setup. He ran 3 on the exact same cloned GDP's and this new run looks like its a different plant! It was really a head turner for an old grower like me. I haven't seen much info on COB/ Timber grows but I have alittle while before I need to get these ordered. I start greenhouse construction first so I have plenty to do! Best of luck in all you grow!
 
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