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The Mega Crop Thread
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i get precipitate like crazy after i shake it up in the jar.. zap it in the mic, then give it another shake, and i get 50 - 70 % less.
meaning i still have about 30%(ish) of where it started.
add that to the rest of the RO , give a stir, and i can probably still find most of it. wait another 20 minutes with another stir, and it's all kind of gone. i sure it's probably just suspended, but i notice it does the same if i pre-mix and let sit overnight.
meaning i still have about 30%(ish) of where it started.
add that to the rest of the RO , give a stir, and i can probably still find most of it. wait another 20 minutes with another stir, and it's all kind of gone. i sure it's probably just suspended, but i notice it does the same if i pre-mix and let sit overnight.
heya friends,, my 2bits,, the precipitate,, everyone has it,, no question,, and it absolutely could interfere with certain hydro systems.
and i am near certain it is not residue from the balls,, it is,, this,,
we pay for this of course
and, one more thing,, i had been doing the world famous @bluter technique as in heating a bit and shaking it all down,, but,, i have decided the heating really does not help other than warming my bucket of fert a bit, which is required btw. the residue remains no matter how much heating i do.
i must say i am surprised none of this sites 'fert detectives' figured this stuff out yet. we need the mega crop rep back on here under oath,,
cheers friends,, lets get to the bottom of this,, like the residue does,, ha
oh,, again, btw,, all my certainties and for sures and i thinks are pure speculation,, of course
and i am near certain it is not residue from the balls,, it is,, this,,
we pay for this of course
and, one more thing,, i had been doing the world famous @bluter technique as in heating a bit and shaking it all down,, but,, i have decided the heating really does not help other than warming my bucket of fert a bit, which is required btw. the residue remains no matter how much heating i do.
i must say i am surprised none of this sites 'fert detectives' figured this stuff out yet. we need the mega crop rep back on here under oath,,
cheers friends,, lets get to the bottom of this,, like the residue does,, ha
oh,, again, btw,, all my certainties and for sures and i thinks are pure speculation,, of course
Wow. I'll keep tabs on my changes and see. Maybe that paddle is doing some super work, or just enough to keep it in suspension long enough to get into the full batch of water.
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i figure it's there, just in suspension.
when i'm done feeding, i dry out the bucket, and there is just no grit. i hand water, and stir between plants, so it has to get suspended in between.
edit: my watering can has no residue either..
edit edit : doing a feed right now. will take pics. didn't think to take pics of the pre-mix tho..
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So I emailed mega crop for more info on this and they kept giving me the run around. On the 10th email they finally wrote something relevant to the issue..
"Yes, that is correct, you can mix liquid concentrate, but it will not fully dissolve until you mix it at final single strength concentration. So it is expected outcome that a concentrate solution will not be fully dissolved.
Mix into final solution of normal water you would feed your plants, and in several hours it will be completely dissolved."
"It will mostly dissolve, we already ran lots of testing on this.
Even if it doesn't fully dissolve, its not an issue at all since its less than 0.1% and the undissolved portion is sulfur mostly which your plant doesn't need so much of. So its just not really an issue you should be concerned about since it doesn't effect the plant at all."
As a newbie grower in soil Im not overly concerned about getting down to the last tidbits of whether the un-dissolved fines will make a difference. Now that may be different for some of you guys who have mastered the art of growing down to a science, or those in hydro, and I believe you are the ones who will be able to question the reps on their product on a more technical level.
Edit: on a more positive note from GLN - regarding bud explosion
"We already have the new order ready in Canada now. Expecting it to be unpacked and ready in the warehouse hopefully by Friday! This includes the new updated formula for Bud Explosion and Sweet Candy also, and new bags! "
"Yes, that is correct, you can mix liquid concentrate, but it will not fully dissolve until you mix it at final single strength concentration. So it is expected outcome that a concentrate solution will not be fully dissolved.
Mix into final solution of normal water you would feed your plants, and in several hours it will be completely dissolved."
"It will mostly dissolve, we already ran lots of testing on this.
Even if it doesn't fully dissolve, its not an issue at all since its less than 0.1% and the undissolved portion is sulfur mostly which your plant doesn't need so much of. So its just not really an issue you should be concerned about since it doesn't effect the plant at all."
As a newbie grower in soil Im not overly concerned about getting down to the last tidbits of whether the un-dissolved fines will make a difference. Now that may be different for some of you guys who have mastered the art of growing down to a science, or those in hydro, and I believe you are the ones who will be able to question the reps on their product on a more technical level.
Edit: on a more positive note from GLN - regarding bud explosion
"We already have the new order ready in Canada now. Expecting it to be unpacked and ready in the warehouse hopefully by Friday! This includes the new updated formula for Bud Explosion and Sweet Candy also, and new bags! "
heya friends,, my 2bits,, the precipitate,, everyone has it,, no question,, and it absolutely could interfere with certain hydro systems.
and i am near certain it is not residue from the balls,, it is,, this,,
we pay for this of course
and, one more thing,, i had been doing the world famous @bluter technique as in heating a bit and shaking it all down,, but,, i have decided the heating really does not help other than warming my bucket of fert a bit, which is required btw. the residue remains no matter how much heating i do.
i must say i am surprised none of this sites 'fert detectives' figured this stuff out yet. we need the mega crop rep back on here under oath,,
cheers friends,, lets get to the bottom of this,, like the residue does,, ha
oh,, again, btw,, all my certainties and for sures and i thinks are pure speculation,, of course
I'm not a 'fert dectective' but I noticed the particles as soon as I started using it. Several folks mentioned that heat and a good stir would get rid of them. I tried both without success, so I installed a wave generator to put them back in suspension. That worked. Since I mix up to a week's worth in advance, by the time the bucket was close to empty, I still saw the particles. This after stirring for 1/2 hr for the initial mix, and then 15 minutes three times per day for four days. That means 3-1/2 hours of stirring does not dissolve the particles from the Mega Crop batch or version I'm using.
I'm at the point where I'm cleaning the drippers weekly. That does not fit my ethic of working hard at being lazy.
I haven't noticed an issue (yet) with my RDWC setup. Then again, it's constantly being mixed, too.
It's when you try pass the particles through the drippers that I have the problems. The openings are tiny, the flow rate is slow and the particles build up in front of the opening until it's completely clogged.
Everything else works with my system. The pump remains clear, the lines seem to be good, it's just at the end of the line that I have the problem.
GLN has stated that they are coming out with a two part system that may be better suited for my use. I'll just have to wait and see.
From my experience, that's typical. I think they have degrees in political speech writing.
sounds like dupont,, aargh,, dunna worry consumers,, we know best,,
pls,, note the blaring contradictions ,,
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sounds like dupont,, aargh,, dunna worry consumers,, we know best,,
pls,, note the blaring contradictions ,,
Look at this response....do you even contradict BRO?
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Greenleaf <greenleaf@greenleafnutrients.com>
Mon 2020-01-27 12:30 PM
We understand the product. You posted a picture of a 4x+ concentrated solution, of 4g in 32oz water or less, and then were confused why it wasn't dissolving, even though the instructions says to feed it differently.
Why would you mix 4g in a small amount of water?
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EMAIL FROM 3 WEEKS AGO
Greenleaf <greenleaf@greenleafnutrients.com>
Mon 2020-01-06 4:32 AM
It probably doesn't matter and you can just keep it powder like it is.
If you insist on some other method, you can also make a liquid concentrate:
100g into 1L water
shake well
each 10ml will be 1g of Mega Crop evenly.
More pics will have to make it in there for final haircut on the other half but they are really thriving
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Can I ask a dumb question, since we're talking about the particles and it being an issue in feeders... Can you top-dress with megacrop? Why or why not?
Great question
I e-mailed the information I posted here to GLN. Hopefully they solve the particulate problem, or my work around will do the job. If you look on the bag, there's a flag dripper there where it says 'Step 2: Mix With Water.'
Well, if some are reportedly having to heat the solution or use a wave machine just to get it dissolved, do you think you would get an evenly consistent product by just pouring water over it?
At the very least the balls would need to be ground up. I don't know if the particles come from the balls or powder.
I think the only way to find out if it will work top dressed is to try it.
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i mixed 6.6g in 4.5L RO. 5.54g / gal for the US equivalent.
i used the pre-mix zap method then added it to the rest of the RO. after a stir and a ten minute rest i gave it another stir. i did it vortex style so the particulate would settle in the center.
in ten minutes after it settled i got this..
note the darker orange spot in the center. that is particulate gathered together.
i stirred again and this was the result after another ten minute settle....
it was super hard to catch as it was so small and not in the center. took a long time to find, but it is there. i just about had the camera submerged lol...
when i feed i use a couple measuring cups, since i essentially do it by formula. i dip one cup into the feed water, and use the other to measure before pouring in the watering can...
this is what it looks like....
aside from the mild baby poop colour there's really nothing. another different feed measure from above...
nothing. the scooping action when i fill the one cup keeps things mixed and suspended. the cups and bucket can sit for hours and no precipitate will form. i napped part way through a couple feeds and found out by accident....
after i feed i dry everything out and clean stuff up. i rarely if ever rinse the bucket. and never encounter any grit or residue.
before a dry after the feed...
have never noticed anything left behind. other than wet lol ....
all dried up...
have never encountered any grit or slime with a quick towel dry either.
now everyone knows how boring it is to feed with mc in hempy...
not negating anyone else's experience. just part of the conversation. i have always wondered if there isn't something to do with the water as well. i am on RO though, and would expect that would level the field as far as water goes.
i used the pre-mix zap method then added it to the rest of the RO. after a stir and a ten minute rest i gave it another stir. i did it vortex style so the particulate would settle in the center.
in ten minutes after it settled i got this..
note the darker orange spot in the center. that is particulate gathered together.
i stirred again and this was the result after another ten minute settle....
it was super hard to catch as it was so small and not in the center. took a long time to find, but it is there. i just about had the camera submerged lol...
when i feed i use a couple measuring cups, since i essentially do it by formula. i dip one cup into the feed water, and use the other to measure before pouring in the watering can...
this is what it looks like....
aside from the mild baby poop colour there's really nothing. another different feed measure from above...
nothing. the scooping action when i fill the one cup keeps things mixed and suspended. the cups and bucket can sit for hours and no precipitate will form. i napped part way through a couple feeds and found out by accident....
after i feed i dry everything out and clean stuff up. i rarely if ever rinse the bucket. and never encounter any grit or residue.
before a dry after the feed...
have never noticed anything left behind. other than wet lol ....
all dried up...
have never encountered any grit or slime with a quick towel dry either.
now everyone knows how boring it is to feed with mc in hempy...
not negating anyone else's experience. just part of the conversation. i have always wondered if there isn't something to do with the water as well. i am on RO though, and would expect that would level the field as far as water goes.