You think the yellowing is a N2 deficiency/lockout? It seems rather uniform for being a mobile nutrient?? I'm not sure exactly what PH it is available at but I thought the range was rather wide. Just curious to your thoughts. Keep in mind... this comment coming from someone that experiences "alphabet lockout" consistently. Love me that Golden Tiger! Unrelated... How long did your Malawi flower and when are you dropping your Panama??? Looking good sir!
I think most folks attribute yellowing in flower to the plant pulling from the leaves to feed the bud growth and see it as a normal natural process. Different strains do this at to various levels.
2cents.
2cents.
Mighty pretty garden Weas!
Kriaze
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which way will you go now. Will you pluck her or will you feed her nutes and watch her foxtail? She's looking well padded out mate, but I'd still be tempted with pushing her longer. Hope you're fine 
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Lol. Alphabet deficiency. I love it.
I usually feel like an inept puppetmaster of my grow, with a hundred strings attached to me. What's more - I'm an inept puppetmaster who is about 1000 miles away at the moment. I will jet back there in a couple days. Hopefully the grow is surviving well without me, as it usually is.
You're right that the yellowing is very evenly spread. I'm pretty sure the it is a combination of things. For the first three weeks or so after I switched to flowering the plants were getting fed a very low ph mix most of the time- in the low 5s. My understanding is that N is locked out below 5.4 or so and I definitely dipped below that during absences- so that at least makes sense. I would bump the ph up again once a week when I visited. Was too rushed to figure out what to do about it at first. Bubblers have helped a lot.
That doesn't explain the yellowing of the non-hydro plants though. I think I must have messed up the feeding levels during the early part of the 12/12 change.
I wasn't sure that the sativas should be getting any more N, and I decided to switch straight to flowering nutes.
The Cheese I'm not sure about at all. Part of me thinks she is just a heavy feeder that has been underfed. And maybe there are other unknown factors...
I don't know how to go about pinning these problems down - at least not without more time physically present at the grow to experiment and observe. Seems like the best I can do is just forge ahead and try to keep my eyes and ears open and hope that I'll learn to manage a hundred puppet strings just by feel. It's worked for me in the past.
By the way, the screwups hardly ever bother me. I kind of expect it. Shit- I'm not even there -so I should expect worse. And I get a laugh out of the dark side of things. I still have some nice plants. All is well (or well enough)
I've been harvesting the Malawi at around 100 days. I think the earliest one was 95 days and the latest was 110.
I almost planted the Panama last week along with a few other seeds to replenish the Hex plants once they start getting harvested. Took the seed packages out and caressed them a little. But then I thought better of it since not around to baby them.
Next week.
Most of the plants do look better now that they're getting into late flowering. They've grown into their yellowyness. It's true that I did yellow them up pretty bad early on- but I think I've done ok with them since that rough start.
Have you grown or tried dr grinspoon? Trying to find out hermi toping cold temp info... Sounds like a great 18week half ounce strain.. I'd hate to get the mindset to grow her only to hermi her out with a topping and have less than ounce growth with cold temps, lol..
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I haven't Grizz. Looks like a weird and interesting one. Spitz has and he wanders through here once in a while- may know something.
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which way will you go now. Will you pluck her or will you feed her nutes and watch her foxtail? She's looking well padded out mate, but I'd still be tempted with pushing her longer. Hope you're fine
I had no plans of harvesting her for a while yet Kriaze- it's just fattening now- but it's getting time to sit down and do the math- look at when I started these plants and how long they're supposed to flower. I think the Golden Tiger might be a 16 week strain - they're all mixed - completely different strains under one feeding system all getting the same mix. I'm not sure how I'll end them- I suppose I'll have to remove the short flowering ones and hand water them to finish, or set up another watering system. I also want I start some new ones to replace the ones leaving, and they may need a different mix too. I knew it would be confusing...
This was just a trial run with a bunch of mediums and strains. Will make more sense to just use one medium and a couple similar strains if I don't want to confuse myself too much and setup multiple hexapi or something.
Will be back home tomorrow and try to update. I also harvested the poor suffering Thai Stick and haven't had time to post about that either. Will try soon.
Welcome to my world. 
I sat myself down recently and gave myself a talking to about simplicity. I keep trying, and then I get intrigued by something else and off I go!
Has one of the mediums spoken to you above the others?
I sat myself down recently and gave myself a talking to about simplicity. I keep trying, and then I get intrigued by something else and off I go! Has one of the mediums spoken to you above the others?
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I really appreciate that you went and tried out hempy, Sue. It seems we tend to get divided up at times into different factions- soil, hydro, high-brix, or whatever. I'm looking forward to trying all styles eventually.
My whole operation is pretty slapdash at the moment so I know I'll have to come at this hydro style thing many different ways before I would really be able to really judge anything. At the moment what's working best is the straight perlite pots. But that's simply because I had to set the Hexapus watering schedule based on their ever-thirsty needs. That leaves the coco plants overwatered. Meanwhile- the hempies would probably be fine taken out of the Hexapus completely and hand watered on weekends just like my sunshine mix plants. I just haven't got around to removing them and seeing how long they last between waterings.
And- if I tweaked the plant to pot size ratio so the coco plants drank more- they'd be doing better I think.
So many things to balance out.
Soil growing is still calling me and yes I'm still stalled on ordering the various ingredients. Got the perlite though.
Would be nice to be free of ph issues. But I've also decided that I'm having fun and enjoying the journey and don't really care too much to hurry in one direction or another.
It occurs to me that I like having a few problems. Not sure what I would do if everything was perfect... Go lay down and die? ( of boredom? )
My whole operation is pretty slapdash at the moment so I know I'll have to come at this hydro style thing many different ways before I would really be able to really judge anything. At the moment what's working best is the straight perlite pots. But that's simply because I had to set the Hexapus watering schedule based on their ever-thirsty needs. That leaves the coco plants overwatered. Meanwhile- the hempies would probably be fine taken out of the Hexapus completely and hand watered on weekends just like my sunshine mix plants. I just haven't got around to removing them and seeing how long they last between waterings.
And- if I tweaked the plant to pot size ratio so the coco plants drank more- they'd be doing better I think.
So many things to balance out.
Soil growing is still calling me and yes I'm still stalled on ordering the various ingredients. Got the perlite though.
Would be nice to be free of ph issues. But I've also decided that I'm having fun and enjoying the journey and don't really care too much to hurry in one direction or another. It occurs to me that I like having a few problems. Not sure what I would do if everything was perfect... Go lay down and die? ( of boredom? )
Hey look.... free range wisdom on the hoof baby!!!
Of course, I hate the multi mix garden too. 4 or 5 different strains (I loose count!) all at various stages.
I've become quite adept at mixing up 1/2 gallons rather than the full gallons.
And... on a related subject.... have you tried using an air pump configuration instead of the water pump?
There's a name for it, but I forget. You pump air into the bottom of a submerged tube. As the air rises up the tube, it pulls a lot of water along with it. I mention it because it might enable you to do various mixes with one pump and timer... just an air pump instead of a water pump. Hmmm.... the manifold would have to go... you might not be able to use the phrase "hexapus" any more... that would be a shame.
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Hmmmm... Air pump....
I will need a bigger offering for the info god. Google isn't going to hold my hand for that one.
Let me know if you remember- sounds interesting.
I'll dig it up a bit later... gotta run out and TCB this morning before our travels.
It might be a good fit tho... would give you the ability to pump from multiple res'es using one air pump and an airline splitter or a multi-output air pump.
It might be a good fit tho... would give you the ability to pump from multiple res'es using one air pump and an airline splitter or a multi-output air pump.
Checked the shed, found it quickly and easily.
Air is injected thru the smaller tube at the base. The air rises up the tube and brings the water with it.
Pardon the JackLeg action on the top end. I forget what I was trying to do there... it's been many moons since it's last use.
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That is cool. Thanks Tead. So I could have one of those in each res, all hooked to one air pump on a timer, and pump out several different feeding mixes at the same time.
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~ Thai Stick ~
The new one still looks healthy. Hopefully I can keep her that way. I'm cutting feeding levels down to 2/3 of what the last one got, and I'll try to flush her more, or at least try for lots of runoff.
The new one still looks healthy. Hopefully I can keep her that way. I'm cutting feeding levels down to 2/3 of what the last one got, and I'll try to flush her more, or at least try for lots of runoff.
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Back home to the plants. They're doing fine without me.
~Peyote Purple~
This one isn't very healthy at all- curled up leaves and deficiencies, but still a funky looking plant. I think I'll grow this strain again to see if I can get a healthier and prettier one.
~ Delicous Candy~
Doesn't seem to smell like any sort of candy at this point. Just a regular sort of generic cannabis smell.
Speaking of smells, a couple things. First - I can finally detect a real lemon smell from the Lemon Skunk cross. Excitement in the flowering room. Goodbye to my lemon scented cannabis virginity.
And- something else that gave me a thrill- I happened to be investigating some Blueberry that's been on the shelf curing for 9 months or so. It's been a few months since I last looked at it, and I was very happy to discover that the blueberry scent, which was so strong and obvious during veg, has now clearly (finally) returned. I went through many ounces of this stuff and never smelled blueberry before in the finished product, but never cured it more than six months.
~Peyote Purple~
This one isn't very healthy at all- curled up leaves and deficiencies, but still a funky looking plant. I think I'll grow this strain again to see if I can get a healthier and prettier one.
~ Delicous Candy~
Doesn't seem to smell like any sort of candy at this point. Just a regular sort of generic cannabis smell.
Speaking of smells, a couple things. First - I can finally detect a real lemon smell from the Lemon Skunk cross. Excitement in the flowering room. Goodbye to my lemon scented cannabis virginity.
And- something else that gave me a thrill- I happened to be investigating some Blueberry that's been on the shelf curing for 9 months or so. It's been a few months since I last looked at it, and I was very happy to discover that the blueberry scent, which was so strong and obvious during veg, has now clearly (finally) returned. I went through many ounces of this stuff and never smelled blueberry before in the finished product, but never cured it more than six months.
That was exactly my thought process. Not really suggesting per se.... just mentioning it as a possible option.
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~Thai Stick~
Stretched about 12" so I bent and lashed down a bunch of branches. I'm not scrogging this one- just doing the same pipe cleaner tie-down thing that I did with the previous Thai Stick.
Stretched about 12" so I bent and lashed down a bunch of branches. I'm not scrogging this one- just doing the same pipe cleaner tie-down thing that I did with the previous Thai Stick.
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~Y Griega~
