The DeVille's White Widow & Bubbleicious - 8 Plants Under 2x Mars Pro II 320

Cloning in soil with beneficial bacteria. Day 8

The dome has been off more than 24 hours. They are still standing strong. You can see on the bottom leaves they have clearly worked hard on rooting that week they lived under a dome. This experiment was extremely successful. New personal record for me and the preferred method of cloning. Want to try to simplify it even more in the future. Considering to use 0.5L airpot mods instead. Less stem to work with, but still two times more than if I were to use rockwool or other commercial cloning stuff out there. Much more space for roots to grow from. I am certain that matters somehow. What do you think folks?

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Interesting indeed
 
I don't use rooting hormone anymore either. I just mix Bloom and Flora Blend equally to 250 ppm, then take my cutting and put the stem right in that while I snip back the leaves. I know if they'll live in about 1-2 days and know when they are rooting good when the new green growth commences. IMO however, I think you're shooting yourself in the foot using an airpot when cloning, I mean assuming your roots get to the barrier of the soil that is because once a root tip is air pruned, no new growth can grow past that deadened tip. This might have a back building effect which is good to some degree, but when potting up various sizes, it would be counter productive to have multiple zones of deadened root tips. My concern aside though, if your roots don't get as far as the end of the soil, the airpot is then a great idea and my concern is completely w/o merit. For the record, I also use airpots, just for my final pot though.
 
I usually cut away a little bit before I re-pot them, to make sure only healthy roots gets planted

Skybound said:
I don't use rooting hormone anymore either. I just mix Bloom and Flora Blend equally to 250 ppm, then take my cutting and put the stem right in that while I snip back the leaves. I know if they'll live in about 1-2 days and know when they are rooting good when the new green growth commences. IMO however, I think you're shooting yourself in the foot using an airpot when cloning, I mean assuming your roots get to the barrier of the soil that is because once a root tip is air pruned, no new growth can grow past that deadened tip. This might have a back building effect which is good to some degree, but when potting up various sizes, it would be counter productive to have multiple zones of deadened root tips. My concern aside though, if your roots don't get as far as the end of the soil, the airpot is then a great idea and my concern is completely w/o merit. For the record, I also use airpots, just for my final pot though.
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Re-vegging can be an awful lot of fun. Especially when it happens because you want it to :)
 
Since both of them were up and I started noticed a tiny little bit of stretching, it was time to re-arrange and make sure to get the auto's more in the spotlight. They should be close enough to the lamp now I believe. Don't want to fry them either at this point in life. Seems I'm easy to challenge. Now suddenly I care about these two auto's much more than the previous auto's which suffered from terrible neglect for one and a half month. They are in the main-room now btw. They seem to like it in there and have started budding up a little bit. They are placed on the side and on the floor though, so they only get a little bit of light compared to the main grow

Here you can see the Jack's are almost reaching the canopy of the photos sharing the space with them. Have to say that they are looking quite ridiculous compared to the others. Almost all of the others are planted in 1 liter pots, so they're not really big either.

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Here's what else is going on in my vegg tent (Homebox Evolution 80x80x160cm)

We have a total of 20 plants vegging in there. They're sorted by strain and by how developed they are. The ones furthest back are the oldest and the closest ones are the freshest clones. I have been performing a whole bunch of cloning experiments to perfect my cloning methods. Will use some of these plants for further experimentation, some will be trained to be mothers and others will be flowered as soon as there is room in one of the two flowering spaces.

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We have the following strains in there:

From behind:

- Big-Bud
- Pure Power Plant
- White Widow
- Bubbleicious

and then on the left and in the centre

- Jack Herer (Auto)

And that's how things are

How are you folks doing?
 
DeVille said:
Cloning in soil with beneficial bacteria. Day 8

The dome has been off more than 24 hours. They are still standing strong. You can see on the bottom leaves they have clearly worked hard on rooting that week they lived under a dome. This experiment was extremely successful. New personal record for me and the preferred method of cloning. Want to try to simplify it even more in the future. Considering to use 0.5L airpot mods instead. Less stem to work with, but still two times more than if I were to use rockwool or other commercial cloning stuff out there. Much more space for roots to grow from. I am certain that matters somehow. What do you think folks?
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The more stem the better! That's where the roots come from right?
 
The buds are getting very sticky in the main-room. I see it's time for another update. However too exhausted tonight. Will try to make a proper update tomorrow
 
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UPDATE #19

MAIN ROOM
5x White Widow & 3x Bubbleicious
Days from seed - 79
Days flowering - 37

HOMEBOX EVOLUTION Q80
1x Loveryder & 1x Jack Herer (Autoflowering)
Days from seed - 53
Plus a shitload of clones in various stages of life

MH-POWERHOUSE (Own journal)
Big-Bud & Pure Power Plant - Previously mother-plants
Days alive - 165


THE MAIN-ROOM IS GETTING STICKY

It's been 13 days since I last formally did an update of this grow. It seems my many projects are beginning to overwhelm me quite a bit. It's around 3-4 weeks left until harvest as far as I can tell, so I added the last remains of Canna Boost Accelerator. Wasn't much left in the bottle. Maybe like 1/20th of the recommended dosage. Then I added 100ml of Canna Pk 13/14. The combination of those two are supposed to help build up buds. You're supposed to feed it when it's around 3 weeks left till harvest, and then feed it for a week. The way I do it, I filled accordingly with how much water was left in the tank. Then in a week (sooner if the plants are very thirsty) I will fill the tank with clean water and begin the flush. The remaining time they will be fed only plain water.

Let's move over to the grow itself: First I want to talk about the White Widow that's more light sensitive than the rest of the bunch. She is budding up pretty good and I have decided to do nothing about it.

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Light-bleached White Widow bud


As you can see, it's only the top buds that are affected. The rest of the plant is budding up pretty good. It has a little lighter green color than it's sisters. Besides from that she is looking really good.

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Light bleached White Widow plant


I will know only after harvest, dry and cure whether or not this was a bad thing. I am keeping the clone from this plant alive for a while more. I can't give up on a plant budding up like that. The rest of the White Widows is however performing very well, so it's gonna be hard to find the right candidate for genetics to keep for future grows. They're getting really sticky!

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White Widow budding up


On the Bubbleicious side it's however easier. There is one plant standing out and it's been standing out since day one. I'm putting my cards on Bubbleicious #2. But I can see that Bubbleicious #1 is performing very well too. Bubbleicious #3 ain't far behind it's sisters so am not writing her off just yet. As with the White Widow I intend to keep all the clones alive until after the cure so I can make an educated selection of genetics to keep. The only thing that's certain is that one of them is a keeper! I have big faith in this strain.

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Temperature looks good as far as I can tell. Was 27. Has been laying around there the past week. Also during light off as the summer has finally arrived. Humidity is worrying me. Has been stabile between 40-50%, but is now creeping up towards 60%. That's is above what I can tolerate, so I plan to defoil quite a bit to get this under control. Will try to be a little picky about it. Will continue to remove leaves until humidity stabilizes around 40-45% This is a little tip for the toolbox if you don't have a working dehumidifier.

The auto's from the homebox tent has been moved in to the main-room and is still being kinda neglected on the floor. Not getting much light at all, but am budding up a little bit. We'll see in a few weeks. Perhaps I can find a better spot for them eventually.

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Loveryder Autoflowering "Most neglected plants in the history of the devil"


The cloning station is out of the kitchen and is standing empty and alone in the garage. Will be a little while until I need to take clones of anything at all, so am planning to boil the vermiculite and then re-use it in my soil preparations.

I also have two new Jack Herer Automatik up and running for Grow Challenge! All Welcome! Solo Cups & Autos!

I really like how the cotyledons are a different color than the first leaves on these. Not sure how visible it is on photo's, but let's give it a try:

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Jack Herer automatic - Advanced seeds

The clones has been moved into the Homebox for vegging. I have different plans for them eventually, but now we'll just wait and find out which is the keeper genetics and which are not. Half of the tent is dedicated to the two Jack's and the other half is dedicated to all the rooted cloning experiments. I can finally state "I got the hang on cloning" and that feels good. I feel I can now safely secure the most important genetics that comes by my grow-spaces, and that's really nice. Next step is to learn how to make feminized seeds.

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Jack Herer automatik, Big-Bud, Pure Power Plant, White Widow, Bubbleicious

That's all for this time folks.

DeVille
 
the scientist in me was just thinking about how to make a cheap DIY system for Co2 that actually works. That made me think about sodastream. Their Co2 bottles are a very good size. I did some googling and I see there are adapters that can make the threading on the sodastream bottles into a standard Co2 outlet. Then I see there is a bunch of Co2 regulators for aquariums that ain't too pricey. Will compare a little bit on the prizes between a Co2 regulator made for a grow-room and one for an aquarium.

Interesting idea for the future. I never used Co2 before because there was so many other aspects of my growing I could and should improve first. But am kinda feeling the time is starting to get more right for this. This is more like a note to myself than a comment really, but the idea is probably worth sharing. I bet the idea of carrying those huge Co2 bottles around is scaring off people from getting started. The sodastream bottles are fairly small and easy to convert. I also see they sell third party sodastream bottles that already have standard threading. For those who want to re-fill their sodastream Co2 cartridges and save some bucks. So that's also an option.

Will think a little more about this and am open for suggestions on how to design this Co2 delivery system based on sodastream's (or third party) Co2 bottles.
 
This is something I've been reading into my self as well. Want co2 enriched rooms but don't want the burners and unsafe shit lol. I run the bags but honestly how much difference do they make. I don't have a meter to actually check. Buddy at hydro store says he gets a 300 ppm jump off one bag in a 4/4 sealed room.But then I should also have fully sealed rooms to properly use the co2 from what I read. If you decide to try something I'll definitely be following.
 
morning the girls are looking very nice and healthy some nice nugs on there already yo baby,i dont use co2 so i will see what you end up with i dont have them in a tent there in the open air basically i have curtains on two sides and i only grow in there in the winter i open the window for heat control and fresh air i dont no that i need co2 with all that fresh air going on!

have a good one!
 
With Co2 enrichment it would be quite pointless to also use an extraction fan while enriching the room. In the summer I would get horrible temperature issues from a reduced airflow. In the winter however I could save thousands in electricity costs from reducing the airflow and replace the loss of fresh air with Co2.

I know many people use Co2 during the entire grow, 365 days a year. Not sure how they set it up? I also have read that the plants can handle higher temperatures with Co2 enrichment. So there is a lot of things to consider here.
 
I am thinking that in the garage Co2 would make sense all year around since I don't pull fresh air into the garage like I do in the main-room. Then the extraction fans in the tent would passively suck the Co2 into the tent from the garage. That way I could run it all year. Hmmm. Brainstorming a little bit here
 
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