ThatOneGuyy's First Lemon Skunk Indoor Grow

Second Update: Here are the pics of the clones that i forgot earlier:

Here are the clones taken from #1:
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and Here are the ones from #2:
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Here are the Hindu Kush seedlings on Day 8:
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Looking great, TOG! :bravo:

I love the closet setup! :thumb:
 
that closet really is legit as hell for a mini grow op man, i'm jealous. i've been looking at cabinets and such at thrift stores and trying to plan my 2nd grow lately...was that closet already like that or did you mod it to suit your needs?
 
Minus the lights, I did some extension cord work to get some power up there and drilled a few holes. It's no where near complete. Im going to take that shelf out of the top one and make a better shelving system where the ballast is. Im also gonna convert my other dresser into a stealth cab for my mothers. Those will be running on CFLs and computer fans. I will also get a larger T5 light light for the top part. so i can Veg more than 10-15 plants at a time.
 
Required Assistance: I will give a Mini update shortly but right now I seem to be having a problem that if someone can reply asap it would be greatly appreciated.

I need a second opinion on something. I think that #1 is a hermie... Before I do anything I would like some confirmation if my thought it correct. Here are some Pics(Excuse the poor quality of macro shots its all i can manage with no tripod):

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Other than that, my buds are showing more pistils everyday:

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Im hoping it was just a small amount of pollination from my males. It isn't affecting my entire girl, Just a single branch I thoroughly went over my entire plant and that one is off one of the main colas. I will continue to check. Im hoping it isn't a hermie. Fingers crossed
 
Yup! You gots a he-she!

You should pull those "bananas" off ASAP or they'll pollinate everything in the growroom. That's assuming you don't want to pull the plant.

But, if you're not seeing that many of them, try to pull them and keep a close eye on the plant. Check it EVERY day and pull any new ones as soon as you see them.

If you like, you can save them in a plastic bag in the fridge/freezer and harvest the pollen, then use the pollen to make your own feminized seeds. :goodluck:

EDIT: I'd also check to make certain your flower chamber is 100% light-proof! ;)
 
:oops: Perhaps I spoke to soon...I checked the pics out again a little closer, and it is tough to tell. I do believe those are "nanners" and you have a hermie, but if you can get ANY better pics, we could be absolutely certain it's not just a swollen calyx or something!
 
yea it looks like a hermie to me, cause most times you only get one calyx in those spots, and you can clearly see the pistils comin out the calyx and then a big ass ball next to it, but like krip said i would pick them off and keep an eye on it, my first grow i had a hermie and it turned out some pretty good bud, but i have one now that has buds but has pretty much no trichs at all on it, but its up too you if you wanna keep it or toss it, but definitely keep an eye on it cause you dont want them to open and then your other plant turns out to be filled with seeds so yea be careful with it, other then that they definitely look good, and whoever built the house must have known they were gonna have a grower live there in the future cause they closet couldn't have been built any better for growin, and glad to see your gettin this shit down packed and doin a badass job, keep doin what your doin man!!!! :thumb:
 
Mr. Krip said:
Yup! You gots a he-she!

You should pull those "bananas" off ASAP or they'll pollinate everything in the growroom. That's assuming you don't want to pull the plant.

But, if you're not seeing that many of them, try to pull them and keep a close eye on the plant. Check it EVERY day and pull any new ones as soon as you see them.

If you like, you can save them in a plastic bag in the fridge/freezer and harvest the pollen, then use the pollen to make your own feminized seeds. :goodluck:

EDIT: I'd also check to make certain your flower chamber is 100% light-proof! ;)
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I started picking them off today. It's most definitely a hermie but it isnt too severe. It is only at a few node positions.

As for the light proofing. My lights go out at about 7pm and the sun is down by then. I turn my tv on and my laptop to check how much light actually makes it into my grow room and here is the results
I'll explain all that in my next post.

SuKaFr33 said:
yea it looks like a hermie to me, cause most times you only get one calyx in those spots, and you can clearly see the pistils comin out the calyx and then a big ass ball next to it, but like krip said i would pick them off and keep an eye on it, my first grow i had a hermie and it turned out some pretty good bud, but i have one now that has buds but has pretty much no trichs at all on it, but its up too you if you wanna keep it or toss it, but definitely keep an eye on it cause you dont want them to open and then your other plant turns out to be filled with seeds so yea be careful with it, other then that they definitely look good, and whoever built the house must have known they were gonna have a grower live there in the future cause they closet couldn't have been built any better for growin, and glad to see your gettin this shit down packed and doin a badass job, keep doin what your doin man!!!! :thumb:
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Yeah I think I am gonna keep it. I wish it didnt do this so early into my grow. I guess its something that just happens. I am only one week into flower so i have a ways to go. Now since #1 has the hermie trait, I am guessing the clones do as well?
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This post might be a tad long because there are a few things I need to ask and answer.

Light Cycles: At the start of my first grow I used a standard 18/6 light cycle for seedlings and Veg. For Flower I am using a 12/12 light cycle. All seem standard yes.

Recently, I switched my veg area to the "Gas Lantern Routine" This lighting setup calls for 12hrs of constant light with a 5.5hr dark period followed by 1hr of light interrupting your dark period and straight into another 5.5hr dark period. That is a total of 13 hours of light a day. I first read the blog by Twelve12 about the "Gas Lantern Routine" and I found it interesting. So I decided to jump right into it. Im sure that wasn't the smartest Idea to do that to my plants but sometimes you just gotta dive right in.

The two parts of my closet are completely light seperate with(When the doors are closed) however my Flower room isn't what you would call 100% light proof. Around the edges of the closet Light DOES leak out and that means light WILL leak in.

Which brings me to my first Question:Does not being 100% light proof really make that much that much difference? I know most would say yes but hear me out, My light cycle basically goes on during the day. Lights come on 7am and run till 7pm. So during those times are when i have sunlight and after suns down and I only have ambient Tv and Laptop light during these time when the lights are off. I tested the light leaks from the inside of my closet and visible distance from the cracks are no more than 2" from the crack. You can slightly see the outline of my plants but it isnt detailed enough to even see individual leaves.

Wouldn't that mean that growing outside with ambient lighting also be bad for your plants( I.e: Streetlamps, Stars, Moon, porch lighting, etc)? I can see things better outside with just the light from the moon and stars with no streetlights than I can with my TV and Laptop on full brightness with my grow closet closed. No where in nature is it pitch black and there are plenty of variables to take into consideration when growing outdoors. So even with uncontrollable variables such as moon/starlight and streetlights wouldn't that in theory, stress the plants as well?

I agree that a completely controlled environment is ideal when growing leaving no base untouched but when the opportunity doesn't reveal itself and you cannot achieve that goal, What do you do then? Resource constraint is the biggest factor for me. If I could do everything I wanted to do to my room with no worry of funds i would.


This isn't me questioning who is right and who is right or wrong, I merely just want to know to what extent the affect of ambient lighting has on a plant. If anyone has any input on this I would love to hear it.:thumb:
 
the only thing i have heard on alittle light pokin through in bloom is it could hermie your ladies
 
TOG, funny you mention it...I just posted a little while ago on Twelve's journal that I still have no idea how the gas lantern method can work without hermiing the plants, but he sure appears to be pulling it off.

Plants are triggered into flower by DARK cycles and not light cycles. They need 12 hours of UNINTERRUPTED dark for flower, which is why I do NOT understand how the gas lantern method works (I'm not saying it doesn't - I just don't understand it!).

Moonlight is basically green light, so it won't hermie the plants.

I can't speak for street lights, traffic lights, housing lights, etc., but I would anticipate they would hermie any plants in proximity, UNLESS the plants were still getting 12 hours of uninterrupted dark. Of course, the occasional passing headlight may not be enough to hermie a plant, but they want it dark, which is why light-proofing is so important.
 
So even with my lights from my tv barely showing the the cracks, it has a possiblity of stressing the plant? has this even been tested? Or the general consensus is to make it absolutely dark so you wont risk a herm?

Seems like many factors to take into consideration and without scientific tools can only be just trial and error, so to speak
 
Sounds like you just tested it! :rofl:

I think different strains/phenos will have different tolerances to light interruption, but it's the 12 hours of uninterrupted dark they crave!
 
Well somewhat testing. I think i will have to go through several grows and try different ways before I come to a conclusion. Besides, i have only been on the Gas Lantern routine for two days. too early too tell if it has any negative effects on my seedlings.

I think a few things could have contributed to the cause of my hermie. Possibly could have been the stress caused by underwatering and letting the plant get to the point of drooping before watering again on several occasions. I don't think it could just be my Tv light leak only. Its very minimal almost none at all. I would like to light proof 100% but my funds wont allow that as of right now. :lot-o-toke:
 
Well constant duct taping every night and removing during the day seems a bit excessive. I will think of something. I might just ghetto rig a heavy duty tarp with some velcro. When funds present themselves I will look into something for now. I also wanna do one of those ghetto rigged Co2 generators with the yeast and sugar. I wonder how well that works.:tokin:

Got projects on my mind just no money to start =\
 
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