TeSmp's Critical Sensi Star - 6 Sq/Ft SCROG - Single Plant

man I've been trying to think on how I could do my scrog, but the thing is the ak48 I have growing is almost twice as tall and I dont have another grow space to flower one or the other. so maybe I'll try to scrog off my cuttings if they take. damn dude I feel like I let you down:sorry:
 
the way its looking you will fill the scrog in less than a week, i think if the plant keeps growing then just let it grow up and space each branch out through each hole, then by the time its budding them branches should be big and give you many big buds, i also read you are not trimming as much this time, i wont be trimming my hempies either, i did what i read and it made just crazy leaf growth in the buds so this time ill only remove what i need from my hempies.

ill measure my room tomorrow and have a sort out and see how much room i have got for a scrog, i do want to do one, just depends on the room.

mate, have you ever come across using tanning lamps or uv lights for growing these plants, i have got a tanning lamp, a small free standing one with 5 x 1ft tubes in it, i have read that using these in flower makes the buds bigger and firmer, but i also read somewhere else that it can only be used for short times, just trying to find someone who may have so info on this, i posted a load in my journal that i copy n paste from another site. it also mentions using a blue light during flower, and it says to use it during the 12 hour dark period, doing this makes the plant grow during the lights off period, it says something about led's been the best for this, im trying to find out what i can, i have a tanning light so i can use this, but need to make sure its ok to use during flower, along side the hps
 
fish cake said:
man I've been trying to think on how I could do my scrog, but the thing is the ak48 I have growing is almost twice as tall and I dont have another grow space to flower one or the other. so maybe I'll try to scrog off my cuttings if they take. damn dude I feel like I let you down:sorry:
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Lol no problem, your grow! If you have enough space to SCROG two plants yank that ak down to the floor with some LST over a few days... You could get it to the height of the sensi star and then SCROG them both... Or just LST, your choice :) SCROGing is a lot of fun though and I don't think you would be disappointed!
 
donpaul.p said:
the way its looking you will fill the scrog in less than a week, i think if the plant keeps growing then just let it grow up and space each branch out through each hole, then by the time its budding them branches should be big and give you many big buds, i also read you are not trimming as much this time, i wont be trimming my hempies either, i did what i read and it made just crazy leaf growth in the buds so this time ill only remove what i need from my hempies.

ill measure my room tomorrow and have a sort out and see how much room i have got for a scrog, i do want to do one, just depends on the room.

mate, have you ever come across using tanning lamps or uv lights for growing these plants, i have got a tanning lamp, a small free standing one with 5 x 1ft tubes in it, i have read that using these in flower makes the buds bigger and firmer, but i also read somewhere else that it can only be used for short times, just trying to find someone who may have so info on this, i posted a load in my journal that i copy n paste from another site. it also mentions using a blue light during flower, and it says to use it during the 12 hour dark period, doing this makes the plant grow during the lights off period, it says something about led's been the best for this, im trying to find out what i can, i have a tanning light so i can use this, but need to make sure its ok to use during flower, along side the hps
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I've heard of plenty of people using uvb bulbs, to me it's to up in the air so I'm not going to try it and I have pretty decent success just keeping it to the basics. You could always give it a go, just make sure you got the right bulbs and that they don't put off to much heat (which I'm thinking they will). I'm definitely going to fill the SCROG up in no time but that's intentional and that's why I flipped to flower on Friday :) I'm going to trim everything beneath the screen in a few weeks just like usual but I'm not going to worry about training fan leaves out of the way or pulling them because they're blocking light (big mistake on my first SCROG). I am always going to pull lower popcorn shit and leaves if that's what your talking about. If I was just doing LST like you did on your last grow I would strip the lower 6" and leave the top part of arms to grow big buds... Same with a SCROG, everything below the screen will be stripped and I'll only have big fat buds on the top!
 
hey don are you maybe talking about actinnic bulbs, I use those on my reef tank too:)they use these bulb on newborn babies when they are premature to help them digest vitamins and other stuff I cant tell you about, but choral and macro alge like it alot:peace:
 
i was talking about all over trimming like you did last time, i remember you did it after some one else told you to do it and it clearly wasnt the right thing, im sure you would of got loads more if the plant was not trimmed that much, i agree anything below the scrog leaf and bud wise needs to go, if its getting light then id leave it, but the leaves lower down the plant and the tiny buds that are not going to give anything should be removed,

the tanning light i got has got 5 like strip light bulbs in them, they make anything white glow and them uv pens light up when you write something with them, they give off no heat, but i have also seen uv incandecent bulbs, i think these would get pretty hot, i am reading up about uv and it does sound like it would make a difference, my tanning thing is free standing and stands upright so it looks like those halogen heaters, so i could put that in front of my grow room so its shining from the side and just rotate the plants, but i cant remember if their is a limit on how much the plants can have it on them, im sure it would be the same as humans, after so much time it may do more harm than good, ill look into it more mate.

you know these hempies im doing, should i remove all side branches, last time i left 2 on each side and they did give me 4 decent sized buds, but would i be better off removing these, i removed some branches early on but these where only short then they got bigger the more the plant flowered, im not sure if keeping them decreased yield or did it give me the same yield but took some away from the main bud, i know the idea is to have 1 big bud, but am i losing yield by losing them branches, i would still remove some and use as clones as i have not grown this strain before, the headband has popped so will be going in pot tomorrow, so i will take clones then ill do a big plant with them for round 3, its best if i see how things go,

all i got in my head is scrog, i got 1 plant thats screaming out for a scrog, i have trained it to the edge of the pot now and its growing up towards the light, but from the middle of the pot where the stem is to the edges it has got a strain line of branches growing up towards the light, its a dead strain line from 1 side of the pot to the other, looks pretty good, i been out all day and when i got back i noticed my temps was 90f, i checked my plants and all had grown over an inch even the seedling, my auto has doubled in size bud wise, its as if my plants prefer the higher temps, the temps yesterday where 80 all day, and the growth today is double or tripple the growth from yesterday, plants are not showing signs of heat stress, i just cant make it out, strain possibly the cause??
 
donpaul.p said:
i was talking about all over trimming like you did last time, i remember you did it after some one else told you to do it and it clearly wasnt the right thing, im sure you would of got loads more if the plant was not trimmed that much, i agree anything below the scrog leaf and bud wise needs to go, if its getting light then id leave it, but the leaves lower down the plant and the tiny buds that are not going to give anything should be removed,

the tanning light i got has got 5 like strip light bulbs in them, they make anything white glow and them uv pens light up when you write something with them, they give off no heat, but i have also seen uv incandecent bulbs, i think these would get pretty hot, i am reading up about uv and it does sound like it would make a difference, my tanning thing is free standing and stands upright so it looks like those halogen heaters, so i could put that in front of my grow room so its shining from the side and just rotate the plants, but i cant remember if their is a limit on how much the plants can have it on them, im sure it would be the same as humans, after so much time it may do more harm than good, ill look into it more mate.

you know these hempies im doing, should i remove all side branches, last time i left 2 on each side and they did give me 4 decent sized buds, but would i be better off removing these, i removed some branches early on but these where only short then they got bigger the more the plant flowered, im not sure if keeping them decreased yield or did it give me the same yield but took some away from the main bud, i know the idea is to have 1 big bud, but am i losing yield by losing them branches, i would still remove some and use as clones as i have not grown this strain before, the headband has popped so will be going in pot tomorrow, so i will take clones then ill do a big plant with them for round 3, its best if i see how things go,

all i got in my head is scrog, i got 1 plant thats screaming out for a scrog, i have trained it to the edge of the pot now and its growing up towards the light, but from the middle of the pot where the stem is to the edges it has got a strain line of branches growing up towards the light, its a dead strain line from 1 side of the pot to the other, looks pretty good, i been out all day and when i got back i noticed my temps was 90f, i checked my plants and all had grown over an inch even the seedling, my auto has doubled in size bud wise, its as if my plants prefer the higher temps, the temps yesterday where 80 all day, and the growth today is double or tripple the growth from yesterday, plants are not showing signs of heat stress, i just cant make it out, strain possibly the cause??
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Yeah no defoliating.. That's what I did last time... This time it will just be lollipopping the lower half just like we do on the 2L's and leaving the big fat bud at the top. If you want post a pic and tell me when it's up and I'll let you know what you should trim off.. Don't do any trimming till the stretching has stopped though.. Usually 2-3 weeks in I'll strip the lower stuff off that is more then 3/4" between the nodes.

I don't know anything about other lights man, to be honest it doesn't even interest me. I know I can get so much more out of these plants just using SCROG, nutes, keeping environment perfect, the light(s) I already have. Once I can push a strain to it's true potential 10 ounces or so per plant I'm not even going to attempt to add in another variable, get what I'm saying?

and yeah get the SCROG up and running DP... Even a 1.5'x1.5' SCROG would be a lot of fun, you don't need anything big but do what you can.. Or whatever you want that is, but if it's screaming at you to do it just do it... Can't lose anything from it only gain :)
 
mate if it was day time and my light was on then id get the tape measure out and move some plants around, im thinking i could run a scrog at the back of the room then have all the other plants in front of it, plus it would be under over half the hps hood or roughly half, it just depends if i can fit my other plants in, the auto will be out soon so thats no a problem so that frees up some space, ill have a look tomorrow and see whats going on, ill let you know about the hempies mate, ill put more pics up this time so you can have a look, the first will be started tomorrow, the seed that popped will go in starter pot before the hempie, im hoping the other has popped so i can get them both in at the same time

did you check the scrog out in plant of the month, looks pretty good to me,
 
donpaul.p said:
mate if it was day time and my light was on then id get the tape measure out and move some plants around, im thinking i could run a scrog at the back of the room then have all the other plants in front of it, plus it would be under over half the hps hood or roughly half, it just depends if i can fit my other plants in, the auto will be out soon so thats no a problem so that frees up some space, ill have a look tomorrow and see whats going on, ill let you know about the hempies mate, ill put more pics up this time so you can have a look, the first will be started tomorrow, the seed that popped will go in starter pot before the hempie, im hoping the other has popped so i can get them both in at the same time

did you check the scrog out in plant of the month, looks pretty good to me,
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Cool well let me know when your lights come on if you got room for one! Yeah I just checked out that SCROG, looked nice! Can't wait till this baby starts flowering, I have a feeling it's going to be good!
 
Haven't really noticed much stretch yet and tonight is day 5 of 12/12. Looks like if it starts stretching I'm either going to have an over grown SCROG or I'll have to long of arms sticking above the screen. If it starts to look like it's going to be overgrown I can just lift up the screen higher..

Anyways checked the ppm and it was at 1410 and I put it in at 1180! The pH is still set right at 5.8?? Not to sure what this means, definitely drinking more water then nutes.. It's drinking 1/2 gallon a day. I topped it off with a gallon of the nutrient mix and it's at 1300 PPM and 5.8 pH. No signs of nute burn in anyway..

Sorry everyone, took pics with the HPS light..

Before training:

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After:

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big root ball I'm starting to get:

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Close ups:

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The middle back kind of towards the left side I'm getting a bare spot I hope lower stuff grows up there, the rest is growing pretty evenly. And what's up with the sativa leaves, I thought this hoe was 90% indica..
 
howdy brother, have you ever scroged 2 different strains in the same place? the reason I ask is as I was going to get me abeer at the local drivethrew they had some exsess racks from the cooler. so I got some from them. so now I'am on the scrog band wagon again. brb, after sitting around and thinking about it. I figured well if I cant bring down the big one the why not bring up the little one, (rocket science right) so this why I ask:)
 
fish cake said:
howdy brother, have you ever scroged 2 different strains in the same place? the reason I ask is as I was going to get me abeer at the local drivethrew they had some exsess racks from the cooler. so I got some from them. so now I'am on the scrog band wagon again. brb, after sitting around and thinking about it. I figured well if I cant bring down the big one the why not bring up the little one, (rocket science right) so this why I ask:)
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Hello.. No I haven't personally done I but I have seen several people do it.. With up to five strains at once. I think that would be hard because of the different stretch of different strains but I think two strains wouldn't be much different then one especially with just two plants..

Yes you can bring the CSS up to the screen I have done that before.. But you'll prob want to bend that ak over some to, it makes SCROGing a lot easier if you LST when it's a taller plant. Glad your thinking about it. How far into flowering are you?
 
tomarrow will be the third day
 
fish cake said:
tomarrow will be the third day
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Oh good I thought you were further along then i was. You need to get that in there like today though so you can start training the stretch under the screen.. Like I said though you'll want to pull the main part down at least 5-8" so you give the lower stuff a chance to make it to your screen then lift the CSS up to meet wherever that is.. She's bushy enough just to place her into the net and train her.
 
looking very happy
 
cool thnk you very mush, I cant figure out why I didn't think of this before. and actualy the ak should finish before the css from what I've read. so scrog it is:) pics next teusday:party:
 
Buckshot said:
looking very happy
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Thank you :)

fish cake said:
cool thnk you very mush, I cant figure out why I didn't think of this before. and actualy the ak should finish before the css from what I've read. so scrog it is:) pics next teusday:party:
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Cool glad your going to join in on the fun with me! You should PM me one pic when you got it in and trained a little so I can see your on the right track! Like I said you'll really need to pull that big girl down a little... Unless the side arms are almost as high as the top then just lower the screen down on top of it and train the arms along the screen in different directions. How big is the screen you got?
 
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