TeSmp's Critical Sensi Star - 6 Sq/Ft SCROG - Single Plant

[fish cake]

very nice my brother from another motherthat is one mighty fine BUSH! I was going to try a scrog but with my ak in the same box as my css, well the ak48 is twice as tall and she has nowhere to go. both are very green and happyand have been drinking a 1/2 gallon of water a day. anyway lst and trim for me

 

[Buckshot]

Looking very healthy ... I too want to know how the screen floats mid-air

 

[teSmp]

Nice screen! and that plant is a monster for a month! Loving the feed schedule-- did you go to crazy growth yet?

How does that screen float like that? lol

Thanks man! And I agree I haven't seen many plants grow this fast ever how's your babies doing? And nope I decided to skip crazy growth and I'm going to be switching to flowering tomorrow or the next day. Yay!!

very nice my brother from another motherthat is one mighty fine BUSH! I was going to try a scrog but with my ak in the same box as my css, well the ak48 is twice as tall and she has nowhere to go. both are very green and happyand have been drinking a 1/2 gallon of water a day. anyway lst and trim for me

Thanks fish!! So your really going to scrog your CSS with me??? I think u should that would be sweet!

Looking very healthy ... I too want to know how the screen floats mid-air

Thank you!

And to answer your guys question.. I made it the right size so I could attach the screen to my tent poles lol.

 

[teSmp]

Flowering begins.... TONIGHT!

K, since the plant is growing so freaking much I'm going to start flowering tonight just in case it stretches like crazy (which I'm sure it will)! The lights will come on at 9pm and will shut off at 9am. 50-55 days from now I'll be smoking some of this beauty

Here is a pic from the 26th, day I put the SCROG in:

Today before I trained:

And after training:

 

[fish cake]

howdy t yes I'am going to make a cage for the ladies. I trimmed the crap out of them today. could have cliped more. I figure since I did that I will wait for the 4rth to start flowering. post some pics monday tho

 

[teSmp]

howdy t yes I'am going to make a cage for the ladies. I trimmed the crap out of them today. could have cliped more. I figure since I did that I will wait for the 4rth to start flowering. post some pics monday tho

Sweet, glad you are going to join in on the fun! I'm not going to trim a single fan leaf off this entire SCROG... I did that to my first SCROG and let me tell you, big mistake! I literally will not take not even one unless it's dead. On the SCROG pretty much all the fan leaves I tuck beneath the screen and then I let the tops grow into the holes, works great.. If a fan leaf is blocking little stuff below the screen that I want to turn into a top I just bend the fan leaf down below it, works great! Once I let it stretch above the screen I won't worry about them blocking stuff, that's what I got an HID for

 

[teSmp]

Re: Flowering begins.... TONIGHT!

K, since the plant is growing so freaking much I'm going to start flowering tonight just in case it stretches like crazy (which I'm sure it will)! The lights will come on at 9pm and will shut off at 9am. 50-55 days from now I'll be smoking some of this beauty

Here is a pic from the 26th, day I put the SCROG in:

Today before I trained:

And after training:

bump

 

[donpaul.p]

mate, its growing like crazy, thats one healthy plant, it will fill that screen in no time, i can see this giving you loads more than the last scrog,
do you mind me asking how much nutes you have been giving it from bpn, i have got an auto in flower and 2 days ago i decided to try the bloom booster from the instructions on the bottle, which if i remember right is 5ml to 1litre, i might be wrong so i may need to check, anyway its higher dose than the online guide, and after feeding at the higher dose of just the bloom booster, the 3 part i left at the amounts in the onlin guide, but i thought id try the bloom booster at stronger dose and it seems to be working well, on my auto i have noticed the buds fill out a lot quicker and i have also noticed the leaves are darker green and feel a lot thicker, and bloom booster is not high in N so not sure why it affects the leaves, but the plant is growing quicker after bloom booster, but im also using co2 so could be a mixture of the 2 thats giving me these results.

another thing i have been doing is with the clones, 2 of the kush clones was taken from the same part of the plant just opposite each other, now i have fed the 1 kush clone at veg 1 stage and will be on veg 2 stage tomorrow, but the other kush clone i have been giving the aggressive growth feeding schedule and this clone is 3 times the size of the other one, so im thinking these plants can take more than we are giving them, i know their will be a point where it starts stunting growth but so far so good, im getting crazy growth from that one clone and from day 1 its had crazy growth and it has not shown any signs of nute burn, and as i remember you saying you was trying something else with the nutes i thought id ask and find out what schedule you are using and the amounts you are feeding,

to me your plant is growing as quick as my big clone is, so are you still using bpn and what doses are you using, thats if you dont mind telling me mate, pm me if you prefer

 

[CronicHempHog]

nice

 

[SurfBuddy]

i decided to try the bloom booster from the instructions on the bottle, which if i remember right is 5ml to 1litre, i might be wrong so i may need to check, anyway its higher dose than the online guide,

DonP! I think the bottle says 0.5ml per liter, not 5!

 

[teSmp]

@donpaul, I started my seedling at day 3 with 300 ppm solution of BPN seedling stage.. After one week I upped it to 900ppm at veg stage 1. Two weeks after that I went to 1050 ppm veg stage 2 and a few days from now I'll be switching to flower stage 1, 1050 ppm. Mmmm about the bloom booster I believe I use 5-8ml/gallon not sure what that would be per liter.

nice

DonP! I think the bottle says 0.5ml per liter, not 5!

I'm thinking this would be quite low, about 2ml/gallon. 3.78 liters in each gallon * .5 ml bloom booster per liter = 1.89ml/gallon

 

[donpaul.p]

i know i just realised, my fingers wrote the wrong number down, it is 0.5, thanks for clearing it up, i wasnt actually gaining anything then it seems that it works out lower than following the guide, i could of killed the plant with a high dose like that, so glad i never did another feed and listened to my head i would of probably added 5ml to 1 ltr, not sure how much harm that would do but it cant be good, so using the online guide it works out to rougly 2ml per litre or roughly 8 to the gallon, i am wanting to up the dose so could i actually add 5ml per litre, the back of the bottle says 0.5ml per litre the feeding schedule says 5 to 8ml per gallon, so around the 2ml per litre mark, i just want to try and push the plants as much as i can, i would notice some problems if the dose was to high, i may even try the 5ml per litre and see what happens, not sure what side affects i would see though, would it be the typical nute burn or would i notice anything else as its not high in N, thanks mate for putting my right, someone could of followed what i said and damaged their plants, im going to try 5ml per litre next feed and see what happens, im really not that bothered as its an auto and its not going to give me a huger return, but if the plant reacts well to it then i could try it on the bigger plants and see what happens

 

[donpaul.p]

so i take it i need to get an ec tester, ill have a look on the selling sites see what i can get, is their a brand that is good and is the standard as i hear their are different scales and you have to convert some to get the true results so its in line with what everyone else is using.

also this ppm, the more nutes you add the higher the ppm, but is this across the whole range like say after you have added all the nutes, is their any guide for doing it 1 at a time, a sort of rough guide that pushes the plants to the limit according to the nutes, say adding so much of just the grow to water and get that set to the right ppm then the micro and bloom etc, or is it measured as a whole with all the nutes mixed in, their have been times when i have upped the dose slightly and the plants reacted well, but without a ppm tester i can judge or work out whats best, i think i need to get one and keep a record of how the plants react,

thanks mate, ill have a look and see how much these ppm testers are, i think someone said its an ec tester that i need as that is the standard measurement

i just thought, their is a difference between a us gallon and uk gallon, so would this affect the doses much, its seems a gallon in the uk is bigger than a gallon in the uk, im not sure how much the difference is or if it would even make a difference when feeding, but if i follow the guide exact then im giving it less nutes per gallon than i would if i was using the smaller us gallon, the conversion of this is below.

But if you have to use gallons... The U.K. gallon is slightly larger than the U.S. gallon.

To convert U.K. gallons to U.S. gallons, multiply by 1.2
To convert U.S. gallons to U.K. gallons, divide by 1.2

 

[teSmp]

Yeah well BPN is definitely using the US gallons, so you might want to go off of that. EC meters seem to be somewhat of a standard worldwide and PPM is quite popular in the US, at least that's what it seems. The way PPM meters work is they get the EC reading and convert it to PPM in whatever formula that specific company is using. Therefore, I think EC does have a good reason to be the standard because there isn't a ton of different formulas to arrive at different conclusions (PPMs). Of course I have PPM meter lol

I have a hanna, but blue lab seems to have some of the best meters there are... I know you have a pH meter but if your going to spend a decent amount on a good pen I would get a pH/ppm/temp combo, and like I said blue lab if you can afford it. I only have a $20 dollar pen from hanna and it works well but I also have to have a different one for pH and I have nothing for temperature! Let me also tell you that I initially bought two real cheapies for ppm/pH and I have since purchased two more (one of each) just because those first ones were such garbage. I've easily spent double what I could have since I started growing trying to do things the cheap way the first time around.. If I would have forked out the cash from the beginning I would have half my money back + have much better products.

I honestly wouldn't go to 5ml/liter bro... I have gone up to 8ml/gallon no problem but 5ml/liter is a lot... And not sure what signs you'll see if the plant doesn't like it.. I'm pretty sure if your nute mix is to hot so to speak it will show in the color of the leaves, or there could be slow growth, etc etc.

edit: Surf Buddy you were right about .5ml/liter on the bottle but if you go by the nute schedule on the website it says 5-8ml/gallon... I still am dumbfounded why the bottles have the incorrect feeding schedule :/

edit edit: I also mentioned several times that I won't be removing any leaves on this grow... That was a lie, everything below the screen will of course be trimmed off

 

[donpaul.p]

thanks for the info mate, my temp and humidity gauge is an old analogue alarm clock so nothing special but it seems pretty acurate, ill have a look around for a ec tester or ppm, i know nothing about them so its something i need to read up on, the online bpn guide has less feed schedules than the back of the bottle, has anyone ever followed the guide on the bottle, some of the schedules on the bottle have higher doses, the aggresive bloom goes up to 20ml per gallon where its only 15ml on the online guide, except for the last in the schedule which is lower, i might try following the guide on the bottle with one of my plants and see how it works, or maybe ill do it next time and try with the clones, makes it a bit fairer,

so 20ml per gallon is 5ml per litre, so my 5ml per litre is roughly what the guide is giving them isnt it, i dont mix up a gallon unless all my plants are at that stage, but my auto is in flower, now if i have worked it out correctly then 20ml per gallon is 5ml per litre, roughly,

i also decided to soak my hempie seeds today mate, i wasnt going to do it till i switch the lights but im soaking them now, used fem seeds, they will get a week or 2 of veg then they will go under 12-12, the hps will still be on glr but i can remove the hempies and put them in the dark for 12 hours so they will be in their flower cycle,

had to edit, soz mate, i was looking at the wrong bottle, i had the bloom and not the bloom booster, so the bloom is 5ml per litre, my bad

 

[teSmp]

thanks for the info mate, my temp and humidity gauge is an old analogue alarm clock so nothing special but it seems pretty acurate, ill have a look around for a ec tester or ppm, i know nothing about them so its something i need to read up on, the online bpn guide has less feed schedules than the back of the bottle, has anyone ever followed the guide on the bottle, some of the schedules on the bottle have higher doses, the aggresive bloom goes up to 20ml per gallon where its only 15ml on the online guide, except for the last in the schedule which is lower, i might try following the guide on the bottle with one of my plants and see how it works, or maybe ill do it next time and try with the clones, makes it a bit fairer,

so 20ml per gallon is 5ml per litre, so my 5ml per litre is roughly what the guide is giving them isnt it, i dont mix up a gallon unless all my plants are at that stage, but my auto is in flower, now if i have worked it out correctly then 20ml per gallon is 5ml per litre, roughly,

i also decided to soak my hempie seeds today mate, i wasnt going to do it till i switch the lights but im soaking them now, used fem seeds, they will get a week or 2 of veg then they will go under 12-12, the hps will still be on glr but i can remove the hempies and put them in the dark for 12 hours so they will be in their flower cycle,

had to edit, soz mate, i was looking at the wrong bottle, i had the bloom and not the bloom booster, so the bloom is 5ml per litre, my bad

yes I followed the bottle the first half of my grow. I emailed him and he told me to go off what the internet feed schedule said. Again, I don't get why it hasn't been changed :/ and yes do NOT use 20ml/gallon of the bloom booster. Stick with the 5-8ml/gallon (not liter). And I wouldn't mess with the feed schedule on the bottle, he said it's more of a general plant guideline and the one on the internet is what we want.

 

[teSmp]

Here's day (night ) four of flowering!

swapped out the nutes last night to flowering nutes stage 1 of BPN (Skipped transition)... came out to 1350 ppm and I felt that was to big of a jump from 1050 so I watered it down to 1180 and set the pH to 5.8.. Seems to be doing good, also hooked the carbon filter back up!

 

[CronicHempHog]

cant wait to see this thing really fill out at the top

 

[donpaul.p]

k mate no probs, i think you could of done with a bigger scrog, i can see that filling up pretty quick, and even quicker now you gone to flower, cant wait to see how this turns out, im so tempted to try a scrog, i got an ideal plant, it was a clone i did and 2 stems grew out the soil so ive trained both stems to run flat to either sides of the pot, then ive let them grow up when they reached the edge of the pots, so it looks like i have got 2 plants in the same pot, not even sure how it turned out as 2 stems, it was a topping i did, possibly i might of ripped the stem slightly so this could of caused it to grow another stem

 

[teSmp]

cant wait to see this thing really fill out at the top

Me to man! 2-3 weeks from now things should definitely start getting pretty interesting tonight is day 5 and it's only a 50-55 day strain!

k mate no probs, i think you could of done with a bigger scrog, i can see that filling up pretty quick, and even quicker now you gone to flower, cant wait to see how this turns out, im so tempted to try a scrog, i got an ideal plant, it was a clone i did and 2 stems grew out the soil so ive trained both stems to run flat to either sides of the pot, then ive let them grow up when they reached the edge of the pots, so it looks like i have got 2 plants in the same pot, not even sure how it turned out as 2 stems, it was a topping i did, possibly i might of ripped the stem slightly so this could of caused it to grow another stem

Lol yeah I think I could have filled a screen twice this big if I wanted to lol but my tent is only 3 x 2, it doesn't get any bigger Do a SCROG dp it's a lot of fun to be in there training it under the screen, I liked LST'ing and I enjoy training the SCROG even more.. Gives me a reason to be in there other then just watering.. Then after it's trained and stretching is over you sit back and relax for 3-4 weeks and have a harvest 2x as big!

I would like it to fill up the screen in the next week then I'll let it grow up above the screen for a week hopefully getting 30 or so 8-12" buds.