TeSmp's Critical Sensi Star - 6 Sq/Ft SCROG - Single Plant

[Smokemupm8]

TOTALLY AWSUM JOB TESMP!!!!!!
Thats a great haul mate, even tho its a wet weight, i didnt lose any more than 50% in weight once dry. Your buds look fairly solid there bro, so i really hope you get a mad dry weight, just let em dry slowly and you shouldnt lose tonnes of weight, once theyre nearly dried, you can jar em, and just burp the jars every few hours and move the buds around, as it draws the mosture from inside to the outer, i dried n cured most my buds like this. Some where cured in zip lock bags, and the small nugs, about 3g each, i spread out in my room on some mesh and just had a fan circulating the air room temp was about 18*C.. Not too hot, and i tried to open the room up here and there trying to avoid any possible mold growth, thankfully it all cured great!
IM IMPRESSED WITH YOUR PLANT TeSmp, AND I HOPE YOU WIN POTM!!! Great work..
SMOKEMUP...

 

[teSmp]

Harvested the Sensi Star tonight... I'm definitely pretty happy with the results, rock hard buds! My girlfriend and I raped this plant and got it trimmed in just 2.5 hours. The total wet weight is!!! A little over 1.75 pounds so 28.5 ounces So when all said and done it should give me about a half pound + half ounce if I lose 70%. Anyways on to the pics, and thank you everyone for your help! The first pics are pre-harvest.. then harvest.. Invi you won, your guess was 8.8 ounces.. We'll have to see what about a prize!

Thank you everyone, this will be my last grow for the foreseeable near future ​

Bumping this shit over!

Yeah teSmp! your wall to wall carpet of green looks fantastico senor. I like your built in drying rack as well. Will be a loss to the family to not have you here growing, so hurry up and flush some down the toilet or something.

Well done sir, A+

Thanks, I let most of you guys down with your guesstimates but I am happy! And yeah I was thinking about taking half of it out to the dumpster with the leaves and shit

TOTALLY AWSUM JOB TESMP!!!!!!
Thats a great haul mate, even tho its a wet weight, i didnt lose any more than 50% in weight once dry. Your buds look fairly solid there bro, so i really hope you get a mad dry weight, just let em dry slowly and you shouldnt lose tonnes of weight, once theyre nearly dried, you can jar em, and just burp the jars every few hours and move the buds around, as it draws the mosture from inside to the outer, i dried n cured most my buds like this. Some where cured in zip lock bags, and the small nugs, about 3g each, i spread out in my room on some mesh and just had a fan circulating the air room temp was about 18*C.. Not too hot, and i tried to open the room up here and there trying to avoid any possible mold growth, thankfully it all cured great!
IM IMPRESSED WITH YOUR PLANT TeSmp, AND I HOPE YOU WIN POTM!!! Great work..
SMOKEMUP...

Thanks smokem!! I've never heard of only losing 50% but that would be nearly a pound dry lol, let's hope not! They are rock hard buds I've never had anything close to this dense. Anyone who is still doing soil, you need to throw that shit in the garbage!! Don't waste another grow with it! This is 3 months from seed and I just got 28.5 ounces wet with a 400w HPS! My last soil plants with 3 weeks veg were only 1.5 ounces each, the only variable I changed was hydro.

 

[teSmp]

just re measured the the inside of the screen and it's only 4 sq/ft so that's about 2.25 ounces a sq/ft! Guess I don't have a 3x2 lol.. It's 36x20 and then the screen was inside the poles and then the inside of the PVC was the screen..

 

[Smokemupm8]

Oh hang on.. I thought your girl was grown in soil??? I saw from the root pics that this is not the case! And your comment about going Hydro!!
But yeah, What type of hydro set up did you use then?? Soz, i may have to read some of your previous posts.
I dont know about goin hydro, i think i know enough of the basics to get started like this LST, but i am not sure as to whether or not the yields have that much differential, given the same strain and an appropriate setup?
Im not saying its wrong, i just thought that in hydro u just use a nute solution instead of a growth medium?
Im going to do some reading now!! THIS SOUNDS LIKE A CHALLENGE!! LOL.. Can the same results be done in a indoor setup with soil??

 

[teSmp]

Oh hang on.. I thought your girl was grown in soil??? I saw from the root pics that this is not the case! And your comment about going Hydro!!
But yeah, What type of hydro set up did you use then?? Soz, i may have to read some of your previous posts.
I dont know about goin hydro, i think i know enough of the basics to get started like this LST, but i am not sure as to whether or not the yields have that much differential, given the same strain and an appropriate setup?
Im not saying its wrong, i just thought that in hydro u just use a nute solution instead of a growth medium?
Im going to do some reading now!! THIS SOUNDS LIKE A CHALLENGE!! LOL.. Can the same results be done in a indoor setup with soil??

I'm telling you right now no competition, hydro will win every single time. I've never seen a soil plant yield 8.5 ounces with 30 days. Not to mention I'm an inexperienced grower, people can do better then I did. There is a huge difference between growth rates and yield with soil and hydro it's not a secret or anything. This is just a $40 5 gallon DWC, everything needed was included. Not to mention its 10x easier then soil. Add nuteients solution once every 7-10 days and once daily check pH/ppm and adjust. Flushing you just add water to the bucket. I'll never buy a bag of soil ever again!

 

[TG40]

Bumping this shit over!



Thanks, I let most of you guys down with your guesstimates but I am happy! And yeah I was thinking about taking half of it out to the dumpster with the leaves and shit



Thanks smokem!! I've never heard of only losing 50% but that would be nearly a pound dry lol, let's hope not! They are rock hard buds I've never had anything close to this dense. Anyone who is still doing soil, you need to throw that shit in the garbage!! Don't waste another grow with it! This is 3 months from seed and I just got 28.5 ounces wet with a 400w HPS! My last soil plants with 3 weeks veg were only 1.5 ounces each, the only variable I changed was hydro.

Very Nice Bro!!!Amazing!!!

 

[Smokemupm8]

Fair enuf!!
Thats pretty good turnover for 3 months total!! I am amazed that their can be such a difference between hydro and soil??
Next grow, i am willing to try an experiment, NOT TO BE A SMART ASS - But ill grow 1 plant, in no more than 4 months, in soil but will use my 600w from start to finish, and i wont top,LST or SCROG it. At 2.5 months Veg, ill flip it and see what i can grow bud wise in that time, i know ive added a month on to it, but thats bcos im letting it try amber as much as possible b4 harvest and it MAY be slower growth wise? But yeah, and see what i can pull wet and total dry weight.. I am fairly sure i can easily get 9 oz dry off that..
Why do you think youll lose so much weight?? How much DRY total bud weight do YOU think you will get/ remember, you said you havent seen buds that dense?? Plz dont take offence mate, im not trying to upset ya, just like to know why you think youll lose so much weight cos my last girl, well she was restricted in alot of ways and i flipped her when i wanted and i dont know what her wet weight was, but she gave half a pound and a quart of small buds, which if hydro was better, would mean, her buds total weight given its size and hydro grow "should" have given me close to a pound?? Is that right??

 

[fish cake]

now hold on a minute it aint over till its ready to smoke! I still stand on my guess
beautifull job beautifull grow and a fabulous harvest my scroggin freind

 

[invi]

Damit!! Why i cant rep you, your girl is so nice...

Also im a bit sad for her, what an evil thing to cut such a beauty down
Will miss her!

Wonder what would happen yield wise if you decided to add some CO2 to your garden sometime (not saying you should)

Can i wain a trimming machine..?
And maybe a small house on beatiful island with beautiful native girls and a huuuge MJ field...

 

[teSmp]

Very Nice Bro!!!Amazing!!!

Thanks TG

Fair enuf!!
Thats pretty good turnover for 3 months total!! I am amazed that their can be such a difference between hydro and soil??
Next grow, i am willing to try an experiment, NOT TO BE A SMART ASS - But ill grow 1 plant, in no more than 4 months, in soil but will use my 600w from start to finish, and i wont top,LST or SCROG it. At 2.5 months Veg, ill flip it and see what i can grow bud wise in that time, i know ive added a month on to it, but thats bcos im letting it try amber as much as possible b4 harvest and it MAY be slower growth wise? But yeah, and see what i can pull wet and total dry weight.. I am fairly sure i can easily get 9 oz dry off that..
Why do you think youll lose so much weight?? How much DRY total bud weight do YOU think you will get/ remember, you said you havent seen buds that dense?? Plz dont take offence mate, im not trying to upset ya, just like to know why you think youll lose so much weight cos my last girl, well she was restricted in alot of ways and i flipped her when i wanted and i dont know what her wet weight was, but she gave half a pound and a quart of small buds, which if hydro was better, would mean, her buds total weight given its size and hydro grow "should" have given me close to a pound?? Is that right??

Watch some of these soil vs hydro grows:

growHD.tv

Vegging for 2 months is not a month longer then I did, that's 60% more veg time. My plant would be as big as my bedroom in 2.5 months! Why would you want to veg 2.5 months plus 2 months minimum of flower just to get 9 zips when I just did it in 3 months from seed to harvest??? I don't really get what you are saying or if you don't understand? And because the standard is to lose 70% of the bud weight, no matter how dense. The buds are holding a TON of water and we leave some in it for the cure but that is when about 70% of the water has been lost. If you vegged a hydro plant for 2 months you could easily hit a pound. Watch those videos and come talk!

now hold on a minute it aint over till its ready to smoke! I still stand on my guess
beautifull job beautifull grow and a fabulous harvest my scroggin freind

Thank fish, and yeah lol we will see when it's all dried.... probably will be like 3 zips! haha. Thanks again you've been a pleasure!

Damit!! Why i cant rep you, your girl is so nice...

Also im a bit sad for her, what an evil thing to cut such a beauty down
Will miss her!

Wonder what would happen yield wise if you decided to add some CO2 to your garden sometime (not saying you should)

Can i wain a trimming machine..?
And maybe a small house on beatiful island with beautiful native girls and a huuuge MJ field...

Your dream sounds very nice! I wasn't sad to cut it down lol I was chopping without even thinking about it!! C02 would add a few ounces easily but I would need a sealed chamber to make it worthwhile. Thanks for coming by, I'll see if I can hook up a gift in the next week or so!

 

[invi]

C02 would add a few ounces easily but I would need a sealed chamber to make it worthwhile.

I saw someplace it gives an extra 40% growth rate theoretically (based on photosynth chemistry equations, not real statistical data)
Wonder how much of that can be realized..
I dont dare go hydro since we have a few hours power outage every couple of months, and if i know it right thats lethal with a hydro system - so i was thinking maybe CO could give the extra boost once i can do the basic things properly, like nutes and training.

By the way anyone knows a haze strain that likes scrog?

 

[Green Knight]

Wow, very nice; that should keep you going for a bit! I sense it's going to be a little while before the next grow.
I've been reading back through your journal and it's great - I've only got a small space and I'm going to scrog so it's been really helpful seeing what you've done and how it's progressed thank you.

One Q - I've started an auto just for reasons of time and trying to get some bud a bit quicker before I start my photoperiod. Any thoughts on scrogging autos? I've only got a cfl so want to keep the canopy even, but don't want to supercrop it or anything that might overly stress it and affect yield due to lack of recovery time

 

[teSmp]

I saw someplace it gives an extra 40% growth rate theoretically (based on photosynth chemistry equations, not real statistical data)
Wonder how much of that can be realized..
I dont dare go hydro since we have a few hours power outage every couple of months, and if i know it right thats lethal with a hydro system - so i was thinking maybe CO could give the extra boost once i can do the basic things properly, like nutes and training.

By the way anyone knows a haze strain that likes scrog?

I honestly think a few hours would be fine, if it was much more then that you could see trouble. But yeah c02 DEFINITELY will add quite a bit to your harvest no doubt about it. The only reason I say that about the air pump shutting off is because a lot of us run the DWC-H (2L turned into DWC) and many people don't even use an air pump the entire grow. So I think if it shut off a few hours it wouldn't even make a difference.

Hazes are pure sativas and not really that suited for a SCROG. The best SCROGs are bushy fat indicas with lots of branching, they'll give you the fattest buds. So no I don't personally know of one!

Wow, very nice; that should keep you going for a bit! I sense it's going to be a little while before the next grow.
I've been reading back through your journal and it's great - I've only got a small space and I'm going to scrog so it's been really helpful seeing what you've done and how it's progressed thank you.

One Q - I've started an auto just for reasons of time and trying to get some bud a bit quicker before I start my photoperiod. Any thoughts on scrogging autos? I've only got a cfl so want to keep the canopy even, but don't want to supercrop it or anything that might overly stress it and affect yield due to lack of recovery time

Yeah unfortunately it is going to be a while before I grow again.. If I do again this year it will be in the late fall, I just don't have anything to do with this bud. I don't need to double or triple it with another harvest! Ask any questions you want, they'll probably move this journal but I'll still get notified if you write in here or PM me. I can't give you much advice on autos for 2 reasons. 1. I don't like them at all, they always look like small little scraggly junk plants (not saying yours will), I rather see someone do 12/12 from seed because I consistently see good plants like that, even a week or two veg makes a big difference. 2. I've never grown one or cared to research them.

That being said I would NOT try to SCROG one or even really do anything to increase yield. From what I have gathered they do best if you just provide them with the best environment (lights, nutrients, temps, RH, etc) and let the plant grow itself. And I'm not sure what CFL you have, but almost 1 of any type of CFL will not be enough to have a harvest. Maybe if it's like a 150-200 actual watt CFL. In that case you would be wayyyy better off with a 250w HPS/MH. Not trying to be rude but I want to save what you got going and actually get you some smoke.

 

[donpaul.p]

well done mate, you have done brilliant, super impressed with the yield mate, and dare i say it, hydro looks like the way forward, yep you heard me right, im giving it a go, im starting to get the stuff ready for what i need,

any chance you can tell me what your kit included, im not buying a kit im buying it all seperate as i have loads of stuff with my tropical fish tanks, was yours just a res with inlet and outlet and air stone in it mate, or was their more to it that than.

sorry for the basic questions about hydro mate but i know nothing about it, but i am switching to hydro soon, clearly the results you got speak for themselves mate, so thought you would be the best to ask,

did yours have a water pump to pump water over the top of the pot, or did you just have an air stone system,
im only going to be doing a basic hydro set up so the more basic the better, i have got lots of equipment with my
tropical fish so air stones and ait and water pumps are something i have got all ready

reps coming your way mate, loving the results my friend, will you be around this site still or are you leaving till you grow next, make sure you give us a heads up when your back up and running

 

[teSmp]

well done mate, you have done brilliant, super impressed with the yield mate, and dare i say it, hydro looks like the way forward, yep you heard me right, im giving it a go, im starting to get the stuff ready for what i need,

any chance you can tell me what your kit included, im not buying a kit im buying it all seperate as i have loads of stuff with my tropical fish tanks, was yours just a res with inlet and outlet and air stone in it mate, or was their more to it that than.

sorry for the basic questions about hydro mate but i know nothing about it, but i am switching to hydro soon, clearly the results you got speak for themselves mate, so thought you would be the best to ask,

did yours have a water pump to pump water over the top of the pot, or did you just have an air stone system,
im only going to be doing a basic hydro set up so the more basic the better, i have got lots of equipment with my
tropical fish so air stones and ait and water pumps are something i have got all ready

reps coming your way mate, loving the results my friend, will you be around this site still or are you leaving till you grow next, make sure you give us a heads up when your back up and running

Thanks, I'm more than happy Anymore weed and I would honestly throw some away! I'll still be around, if you respond in here I see it on my phone right away or you can PM me. I like answering the questions in the open forum the best so other people can give there input, say I'm stupid, or learn from what I'm saying.

This is what you'll want to do. Get a black 5 gallon bucket, 4"+ air stone (lots of bubbles), air line, air pump, bucket lid and you'll have to make a net pot or that could be the only premade component you'll want to buy. At the same time you could just buy this or something similar:

Ikon DWC OxyPot Single Unit Kit Pump Hydor Ario 2 & Pebbles Oxy Pot Bubbler | eBay

that's from the UK ebay. It has a built in air pump, I haven't used it so I can't say how well it works... If you make your own you just need to take the 5 gallon bucket throw the lid on, make a netpot, cut a hole and stick the netpot into the lid, drill a hole for airline. Run the airline from your pump into the bucket with a 4"+ air stone on the other end. Fill your netpot with hydroton and then you just stick your plant in there and fill up the reservoir. I put reflective material on the top of my lid. What are your temps?

I then drilled a hole at the bottom of the bucket, put in a uni-seal (grommet) and then throw a 1/2" elbow into it. On the other end I put 1/2" clear tubing for a sight tube/drain, this is pretty important for the SCROG since you can't move the plant from beneath the screen during res changes. If you put your bucket on top of something say like 4-6" above the ground that you can remove from beneath the bucket you'll be able to slide the bucket out from underneath it if you want to clean your res or skip putting that sight tube in. I however, don't ever pull it out and clean the res. You absolutely need pH up/down, a PPM meter and pH meter. Glad your going to give it a go, it will be the best decision you've made. I personally feel comparing CFL's to HID is like comparing soil to hydro. Except if I had to choose to use CFL's with hydro or soil with an HID, I would choose the CFL's!

 

[donpaul.p]

thanks for all the info mate, i copied n paste it so i can follow it when i need to, ive got most the stuff i need by the sounds of it, my room temps are around 75 to 80, but i dont have any moving air or vent in at the moment, but i do have a built in vent that i blocked off, so i could use this to blow air into the grow room and pipe it to the bottom of the grow room and then i can keep the temps in check a whole lot easier,
so ill see what i can get sorted out and sorted out, i got a few more plants to harvest and then i can decide where i go from their,

thanks for the info and ill be putting something together soon, i might try something else with it as well, ill read up on hydro and have a think about the best way to set it up in the space i have got,

clearly hydro is giving the results im looking for, and a scrog would mean a whole lot less plants and possibly give me a whole lot more yield,
im very interested in your dry weight mate, i just harvested one of my nl x bb and pretty impressed with what i got, ill be putting pics up tomorrow,

 

[teSmp]

thanks for all the info mate, i copied n paste it so i can follow it when i need to, ive got most the stuff i need by the sounds of it, my room temps are around 75 to 80, but i dont have any moving air or vent in at the moment, but i do have a built in vent that i blocked off, so i could use this to blow air into the grow room and pipe it to the bottom of the grow room and then i can keep the temps in check a whole lot easier,
so ill see what i can get sorted out and sorted out, i got a few more plants to harvest and then i can decide where i go from their,

thanks for the info and ill be putting something together soon, i might try something else with it as well, ill read up on hydro and have a think about the best way to set it up in the space i have got,

clearly hydro is giving the results im looking for, and a scrog would mean a whole lot less plants and possibly give me a whole lot more yield,
im very interested in your dry weight mate, i just harvested one of my nl x bb and pretty impressed with what i got, ill be putting pics up tomorrow,

Cool tell me when you get pics up.. and sweet your temps are idea for a DWC, it is really the simplest, cheapest form of hydro your going to come across. Ebb type hydro systems are a bit more user friendly but if your temps are under control you won't have any problems anyways. You'll get the biggest, fastest plants in a DWC. SCROG + hydro you'll certainly have bigger yields with much less plants. I typically see people pulling 1.5-3 ounces off each of there 30 day veg soil plants. As you can see I just pulled over half pound dry with 30 days veg in my one DWC bucket. If I were you I would start a seed in a rapid rooter just like I did in the first page of this journal and then put it straight into a DWC. Skip the monster cropped plants or clones for another time. That is unless you have a strain going you would like to SCROG then clone it in a rapid rooter and go for it. If you are going to do it from a seed I would STRONGLY recommend Critical Sensi Star, there is quite a few of us growing it on here and it's been one easy amazing plant. Looking over the buds today they literally look white with all the crystals, and the smell is OMG amazing! You saw the yield, and like I've said I didn't top/fim/supercrop once!

 

[Buckshot]

Harvested the Sensi Star tonight... I'm definitely pretty happy with the results, rock hard buds! My girlfriend and I raped this plant and got it trimmed in just 2.5 hours. The total wet weight is!!! A little over 1.75 pounds so 28.5 ounces So when all said and done it should give me about a half pound + half ounce if I lose 70%. Anyways on to the pics, and thank you everyone for your help! The first pics are pre-harvest.. then harvest.. Invi you won, your guess was 8.8 ounces.. We'll have to see what about a prize!

Hey, hey hey!!! let's just settle down and wait till it is dry!

Very nice. If it smokes like it looks you will have much relief

Thank you everyone, this will be my last grow for the foreseeable near future ​

What! bummer!! sorry to hear that

Thanks for the posts

 

[Heirloom]

By the way anyone knows a haze strain that likes scrog?

invi.....I....invite you to look at my grow. Hashplant Haze, DWC and I am just starting to SCROG it. It's not IDEAL, but it is going to work. I just have to figure out the proper training of this plant. The Hashplant genetics grow pretty crazy as I understand, and I can see it in mine. HPH is Northern California Hashplant x Cannalope Haze. Check it out, link is in my sig.

 

[Heirloom]

Harvested the Sensi Star tonight... I'm definitely pretty happy with the results, rock hard buds! My girlfriend and I raped this plant and got it trimmed in just 2.5 hours. The total wet weight is!!! A little over 1.75 pounds so 28.5 ounces So when all said and done it should give me about a half pound + half ounce if I lose 70%. Anyways on to the pics, and thank you everyone for your help! The first pics are pre-harvest.. then harvest.. Invi you won, your guess was 8.8 ounces.. We'll have to see what about a prize!

Thank you everyone, this will be my last grow for the foreseeable near future ​

DAMN! Nice dude!

Had to quote the whole thing to get it on this page! It's THAT worth it!