Tead's Indoor-ish, Winter, Hempy, OGK, SOG

[AKgramma]

I put 2 seeds into peat pucks on 6/18. On 6/19, I put a seed into a shotglass of water and another seed into a small (2pint) perlite hempy pot.
Today, the only one to have shown any progress is the perlite one.
I not so willing to risk another seed, but I did put one of my prime Pineapple Chunk seeds into a perlite pot.

Crossing fingers.

Can you rescue the other two and put them in Perlite?

 

[SweetSue]

Tead, are the seeds being started in just perlite and water? Is it a finer grade of perlite or the same coarseness you use in the buckets? Can you document that process any more closely, or point to a post where you did that already?

 

[Tead]

Hows your girls doing? They still holding up with all the heat?

Well... I've got a handle on the heat mostly. Still hot, but growable. My veg tent does 80f to 90f. The flower 'tent' stays right between 80f and 85f. I might try to crank in down a touch more. I think it's really giving my seed popping efforts a wrinkle. Perhaps seed purchasing should be done during cooler months... seem like a strategic sort of decision that may increase my success rate.

It really is quite brutal down on the Gulf. One avoids journeys out into the direct sun this time of year. Challenging in so many different ways.

 

[Tead]

I was wondering since you can't over water hempys does that mean i could flush even though the container isn't light yet?

Yea. I mean, flushing doesn't need a dry medium. It's a process of pushing out the previous stuff and rinsing away salt buildup from the nutes.
This is just not really an issue in my world tho. Hempy pots seem to retain water forever. I was digging some used perlite out of a 5gal pot that had been sitting in my hot-ass shed for like... I dunno.... 3 or 4 months. I could still feel a touch of moisture down at the bottom.

I've been pondering these points recently myself. On one hand, I kinda feel I want to change to a weekly schedule, but then I consider the idea that hydro grown plants are constantly in water.... and hempy is a hydro style.
I dunno... the conundrum... to dry or not to dry... tis the question.

 

[Tead]

Can you rescue the other two and put them in Perlite?

Maybe. The thought is on the table. I'll give them an eye this morning and see how they look.

 

[Tead]

Tead, are the seeds being started in just perlite and water? Is it a finer grade of perlite or the same coarseness you use in the buckets? Can you document that process any more closely, or point to a post where you did that already?

Yes, perlite and water. While the jury is still out, it's the only seed that has popped.
Only one grade of perlite exists in Tead's world. It's the bagged MG stuff from the local Home Depot.
It's not really a process worthy of documentation. I water a little perlite... toss in a seed about 1/4 down... keep it wet.
I'm peeking back at my history a bit and it appears that I see a historical weather related trend. When things are hot and humid, the perlite does better for cloning. When the temps are down, the peat pucks seem to work better.
Of course, these are seeds, not clones.
Meh!

 

[lexort420]

Yea. I mean, flushing doesn't need a dry medium. It's a process of pushing out the previous stuff and rinsing away salt buildup from the nutes.
This is just not really an issue in my world tho. Hempy pots seem to retain water forever. I was digging some used perlite out of a 5gal pot that had been sitting in my hot-ass shed for like... I dunno.... 3 or 4 months. I could still feel a touch of moisture down at the bottom.

I've been pondering these points recently myself. On one hand, I kinda feel I want to change to a weekly schedule, but then I consider the idea that hydro grown plants are constantly in water.... and hempy is a hydro style.
I dunno... the conundrum... to dry or not to dry... tis the question.

That is interesting! I usually try to give a wet dry cycle and the main reason i was asking was i was thinking maybe a flush might allow me to flush out the bad ph water and allow me to fix that but i been hesitant to do it for fear of screwing up my girl worse.

 

[lexort420]

Well... I've got a handle on the heat mostly. Still hot, but growable. My veg tent does 80f to 90f. The flower 'tent' stays right between 80f and 85f. I might try to crank in down a touch more. I think it's really giving my seed popping efforts a wrinkle. Perhaps seed purchasing should be done during cooler months... seem like a strategic sort of decision that may increase my success rate.

It really is quite brutal down on the Gulf. One avoids journeys out into the direct sun this time of year. Challenging in so many different ways.

Maybe you could set up a cfl inside your home just to pop the seeds then transfer them out to the shed? I know you grow in the shed but i was just thinking if the heat is interfering with it maybe try it out in a more controlled environment. Maybe im not making sense but its just a thought that popped in my head lol

 

[Tead]

Maybe you could set up a cfl inside your home just to pop the seeds then transfer them out to the shed? I know you grow in the shed but i was just thinking if the heat is interfering with it maybe try it out in a more controlled environment. Maybe im not making sense but its just a thought that popped in my head lol

hmmm..... good point! I might even set them up near an AC outlet.
I pulled the seeds out of the peat pucks. They were both slightly split open... just the smallest of a hairline crack down the seam. Put them into perlite. It would sure be nice if they popped, but I hold little hope for them.

 

[lexort420]

hmmm..... good point! I might even set them up near an AC outlet.
I pulled the seeds out of the peat pucks. They were both slightly split open... just the smallest of a hairline crack down the seam. Put them into perlite. It would sure be nice if they popped, but I hold little hope for them.

Ya i had a few seeds fail in the peat pucks and it sounds like what you have going on. I didnt think to try replanting them maybe i should have.atleast tried.

 

[AKgramma]

It's hit and miss. My very first packet of seeds, I had a 90% germination rate in peat pucks. My last set of seeds I had only a 50% germination rate, and those were in solo cups with my usual soil mix. And that was using the wet paper towel method on some of them to get them going.

 

[Tead]

Been outside working most of the day. Hot as hell of course.
When I was done, I ducked into the shower and took a cold shower. I was wondering how "cold" my water was... especially since it was so nice using just the cold water. The "cold" water was 89f.
It got me thinking about putting a handle on just how warm the world I live in is. I got out my temp probe and did some samples.
Cooled living space... 80ish.
Shot glass of water with seed near AC outlet... 79f.
Bloom tent... 85f. I checked the media in my hempy pots, it was right at 85f as well.
Veg tent... 87f with pot mediums reflecting the same.
Clone and seed mediums were at 85f... they're right under where the AC air comes in.
Open area of shed was at 114f.

Funny... when winter rolls around 45 feels so damn dramatic since we live in such a warm world.

 

[lexort420]

If you are having ph issues that sir outweighs any out of cycle watring concern no matter the media. I water twice a day if out in full sun it keeps the roots cool the only reason to dry out a hempy is to limit algae on top and to max out lazy skills


time to get high this has been a wake and bake program lol

So if i understand correctly I can flush to correct the ph in hempy?

 

[lexort420]

And if you're really concerned you could tip it over hole down to drain the res first imho . why are you so worried did you feed with the wrong jug. I must have missed that i am 70 pages back so lol

I feed with too high of ph and my girl is looking pretty rough.

 

[Tead]

See i had to cross my fingers to get 65 so i could sun my plants today .

You dont seem to drop to many beans at one time and i was thinking. with your temps. A plastic cooler/ice box . One or two frozen water bottles (this would take some testing for temps) and your solo hempys would get you better odds at sprout then do your thing???

Ice might indeed be my next step if nothing else pops out of the perlite.

 

[Tead]

So if i understand correctly I can flush to correct the ph in hempy?

Yea... I mean, that's the idea behind a flush or a feeding in a neutral medium. Out with the old, in with the new.

 

[lexort420]

Yea... I mean, that's the idea behind a flush or a feeding in a neutral medium. Out with the old, in with the new.

I guess the whole overwatering thing has been stuck in my head since back when i grew in peat moss. The way my girl looks it definitely reminds me a little of that but also lockout

 

[AKgramma]

I'm new at the hempy thingy, too, as Tead and Sweet Sue will agree with.

You cannot overwater if you have a hole 2" up from the bottom. All the extra water will drain through the hole, and you'll be left with a fairly flushed-out reservoir. It won't get soggy like stagnant soil can, because of how often you water, basically flushing out the accumulated salts and adding new at your next feeding.

I'm guessing that peat eventually breaks down and raises the PH too much? Tead, correct me if I'm wrong. That's why the hempy system uses Perlite, with or without vermiculite.

 

[lexort420]

Peat moss lowers ph if i recall correctly. Im not technically new to hempy just been brain farting hardcore lately

 

[SweetSue]

Peat moss lowers ph if i recall correctly. Im not technically new to hempy just been brain farting hardcore lately

Hahaha! You're so hard on yourself lexort. You need a hug.