Tead's Indoor-ish, Winter, Hempy, OGK, SOG

[Tead]

Tead your puttin all your eggs in one basket look forward to seeing how the osmo's flower! I guess since there still just in perlite fixing anything if it arises should be easy enough .. are you adding calmag in with your waterings ?

True... I am... but one of the baskets is starting to hatch already and is giving me a little boost in the confidence department.
Between that, and seeing the output of others, I'm not too worried, but your old school words are appreciated and properly recognized.
I hadn't thought too much about it... but converting them back to liquid nutes would be possible... messy, but possible.
I do 1tsp/gal of both epsom salts and 2% milk to address CalMag issues. Effective. Probably better to use real CalMag products so I don't preach on it too much, but it sure works for me.
My full mix for the Osmo pots is 1/8 tsp silica, 1tsp epsom salt, 1tsp milk, a few drops of SuperThrive (when I remember). Ph'd down to 5.5 to allow it to drift up during days between feedings (every 3rd day).

 

[Tead]

Thanks to your successes here i have picked myself up some osmocote plus to use in some outdoor guerilla growing. Figure I'll dig up a few sunny spots make a few layers of the osmo and pop a few rooted clones and extra auto seeds i have in the holes and see what comes of it. Whats a good way to layer it in your opinion? Lighter up top getting heavier dose as it goes down? Equal amounts at equal intervals? I know its a bit different than hempy style but you are my resident osmo expert. Lol

Oh nice... I didn't know how to answer this one really. Happy Hemper chimed in before I had to squirm about an answer... I love this place.

Sorry Laz, I've not used Osmo in soil. I do passive hydro in a completely devoid of any nutrient value and all of the food for my plants needs to come from the nutrients. Much different from a soil grow.

Damn... put some Creole Tomatoes in the ground the other day... shoulda juiced 'em with Osmo... didn't think of it. Meh... they'll all get chewed up by the buggins soon 'nuff.

 

[Lazarus13]

I have a swampy area nearby that is just a small rainwater run-off collection area with a stream nearby and im thinking about digging out til i hit the water table there and filling with perlite. Like you were talking about early in this journal i believe. I'm looking forward to seeing how it all works out. Could turn out to be a guerilla growers dream, this osmo+. Just need some critter deterents and maybe some top feeding during dryer weeks.

 

[Tead]

OH AWESOME!
Please keep us updated about it.

So, in my swamp grow imagination, I see 2 different configurations. One being a more natural soil grow somewhere near a stream in a meadow with good bit of earth right near the water. The second configuration being the non-natural grow.

My imaginary plan would be to find a spot with the water table about 1 foot down... dig a 2 foot hole and fill it with perl. Something should cover the perl to keep it in place... dunno what tho. I would think you'd have to actually feed it some until the roots hit the water.
If you go with Osmo, I think you're going to have to keep it up high. Osmocote releases it's nutrients via osmosis. Fancy word, but functionally means that the membrane on the outside of the Osmocote pellets allow the nutrient levels to equalize on either side. You don't really want try to do that down in your bazillion gallon "res" here.... maybe placement just above the water table would be best... maybe. You might also start with a larger plant a 'repot' it into the hole.... thus avoiding the time needed for the roots to grow down to the wet zone.
What are the gritty details of your plan?

 

[Lazarus13]

My plan is to dig out some of the loamy soil thats there down to the qater table, mix some of it with perlite, vermiculite and some compost and back fill with 2 layers of osmocote. One low just on top of the water table then one about 3 or 4 inches down so by the time the plant is big enough it will hit the first pocket of oc. OR dig out and fill wirh perlite vermiculite mix with some watering crystals mixed in and cover with landscape cloth. Ive decided to use clones i will cut from my current grow to give them a head start and also my last treacle auto which i am starting from seed today. Frost danger should be well past by the time they are all rooted enough to go into their new homes.

 

[Weaselcracker]

I posted some sort of a vague hempy question for you in my journal Tead, when you get a moment.

 

[Tead]

Tead your puttin all your eggs in one basket

...And, of course, a problem develops. I'm blaming you Rhet!
So, after spending some time pondering the issue, I know exactly what and how this happened.
Osmo2 in veg

PH spotting problems.
I've been hitting a target ph of 5.5 to allow my ph to drift up over time. While it's been working great for the liquid nutrient program... this is not good juju of the Osmos.
The Osmocote+ drops the PH... but not until after the water hits the Osmocote+ in the pot. This means I should be ph'ing to about 6.0-6.2.
Sucks. Too bad I didn't realize this until after the damage. Meh... she needs a haircut anyway.

 

[Tead]

I posted some sort of a vague hempy question for you in my journal Tead, when you get a moment.

Is your Hexapus leaking?

OH LOOK!!! I used it! Whoohooo!

 

[SweetSue]

I love your casual "meh" attitude to life Tead. Lazarus, that sounds like a wonderful idea. I hope you'll share pictures here if you make it happen.

 

[Tead]

I love your casual "meh" attitude to life Tead. Lazarus, that sounds like a wonderful idea. I hope you'll share pictures here if you make it happen.

Pluses and minuses.... meh.

I wanna see Laz's grow too. He's got a good bit of challenges... growing in a flood plain is gonna be interesting in many ways. Seems like bug and critter Mecca.

 

[Dr Bob]

Howdy Tead!

How's life treating you down south? Snowing here, blech!

Bob

 

[Captainblast]

So... I put down the camera phone today and used an old Nikon Coolpix I had hanging around....
Did a custom white balance... set it to macro... bing bang boom! Using the camera from here on out.

Lots of sweetness there! Great pic too!

 

[Tead]

How's life treating you down south? Snowing here, blech!

We have yellow spots of pollen all over everything. It's as close as we're going to see to snow this far into the year.

Garden's chugging right along. Been to lazy to do photos. I've got a little work lined up that I've been ignoring for entirely too long and it's been the source of my general absence around the threads. New Osmo feeding routine is working... a small PH hump, but nothing disastrous.

In a previous life I used to have an occasion to commute during evening snow storms in a desolate bit of the world. I used to just love the snow tunnel effect caused by the car lights in the flying snow. Mesmerizing.

 

[Tead]

Lots of sweetness there! Great pic too!

Thanks! I sure do like the old camera better than the new phone. I'm a bit surprised.

 

[SweetSue]

I have a 4" grinder that gives me a nice course mix. Luvin it's looks with a touch of (please forgive me) quick dried 5GalGirl in her.

You're forgiven. We've all done it and those who say they don't are lying. LOL!

Incidentally, what's your favorite quick dry method? I don't believe I've ever asked you that before.

 

[Weaselcracker]

In a previous life I used to have an occasion to commute during evening snow storms in a desolate bit of the world. I used to just love the snow tunnel effect caused by the car lights in the flying snow. Mesmerizing.

Spent an awful lot of my life doing just that. This reminds me of a story...
When I was a kid we used to do our winters in the bush in the Yukon, or else at the top of BC, and would stay a little less north down in BC in summer. One fall we were on our annual epic journey from our summer place up to the Yukon, driving on the road that runs north to Whitehorse, which was at that time just a muddy track that took many days of hell to get through. It was night and I was sitting in between my mom and dad in front - hypnotized by the snow- when suddenly...
A ginormous lizard wandered out on the road in front of us- then dashed across and up the snowbank into the trees on the other side.

This was long before any of us had ever seen a real lizard. Hard to explain- but it was a smaller reality for us back then. Hell, in those days in the North even bananas in the store were a novelty. This was just Not on the list of things that could possibly run across the road at night, in a snowstorm.
And this was long before HST became one of my heroes.
We dashed outside in a frenzy. I was excited. My parents looked very very worried. I realize now they were probably questioning how they were going to make it through another winter in the bush when they hadn't even started yet and were already cracking. We saw the tracks, all three of us. They were real. Never saw the lizard again.
When we got to Whitehorse we found out that a travelling circus had a crash on the way up and lost their iguana and some other animals, poor things.

 

[Tead]

This was just Not on the list of things that could possibly run across the road at night, in a snowstorm.

Ya sure gotta love those surreal moments in life. I drove thru jackrabbit mating season once... eww.
I am a student of the surreal and an iguana in a snowstorm... yea... that hit's the list!

 

[Tead]

Gots me a fatass 4" grinder. Ya ever just forget about the powder bucket in the bottom for a while?
It's been snowin in there baby!

 

[Bearded Budz]

So now ya get a kick ass recipe for CCO/RickSimpson Oil, then dunk your fav bud in said oil and roll it in all that Secret Stash keif .... KABAMMM, now you have rocket fuel for a trip to the moon, AKA Moon Rocks! That was my impersonation of stoner Guy Fieri, but way less doushieness, hahaha! Gees man, I had some serious catching up too do, I m not sure why I ve been missing out but I ve found a comfy spot now

 

[Tead]

So now ya get a kick ass recipe for CCO/RickSimpson Oil, then dunk your fav bud in said oil and roll it in all that Secret Stash keif .... KABAMMM, now you have rocket fuel for a trip to the moon, AKA Moon Rocks!

That's a friggin awesome idea! I might have to give that a try... been meaning to try CCO creation at some point.