SweetSue's Perpetual 2.0 - The Transition To Doc Bud's HBB Kit

That will be some fine smoke my friend.

Cheers.

I certainly hope so Ditch. :laughtwo: Think I'll hang onto at least one those for myself. There's a lot of competition for the Carnival around here. Packing up some for a patient right now, as a matter of fact. :battingeyelashes: "The good stuff. "
 
I'm coming into my third year in September, and I recall B A R putting himself through the paces at year three to see if he could demonstrate the value of this community in assisting his learning curve, having come here as a complete novice with a plant he'd rescued from the tree well outside his building in NYC.
That was B A R ??? My how we change and grow here :)


Every time I harvest one now and realize that at best this is around two ounces, I think of the monster harvests Rifleman brings in and I wonder.......

She's easily the darkest specimen I've raised. My compliments to the seed maker. :cheesygrinsmiley: :goodjob:

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There is speculation that an auto goes into flower when her taproot spreads along the bottom of the pot. Has anyone tried putting a pot with no bottom on top of a larger pot and starting from seed in a 'tower' pot?

(I love the imagery, something Dr. Seuss would do.)

I bet one could do a 2 liter on top of a one gallon milk jug as a two story hempy.



I just discovered I have some Carnival that's been in the cupboard since mid-December. :thedoubletake:

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Enjoy your well cured Carnival - I'm 2 months away from my first Carnival harvest - thanks so much for getting me going in that direction :)
 
Wow! They look even better on harvest day. Well done!:thumb:
 
Hey Sue, see your doing well, always in the background. Been a lot going on in the last yr. Waiting to move which seems like forever. I'm looking for a CBD strain for SAD..Not sure where to go.Seen a stain that is 0.5thc & 14%cbd Still got a lot goin on lol. Will pop carnival when i move but my Kaboom is going crazy, waiting to flower but nowhere to go..
 
Finally got here Sue, sorry I am so late. (Pulls up chair) Sub'd

:welcome: Van. Make yourself comfortable and feel free to join in the discussions. The more the merrier. :hugs:

That was B A R ??? My how we change and grow here :)

How time flies when you're having fun. :cheesygrinsmiley: I miss B A R.


There is speculation that an auto goes into flower when her taproot spreads along the bottom of the pot. Has anyone tried putting a pot with no bottom on top of a larger pot and starting from seed in a 'tower' pot?

(I love the imagery, something Dr. Seuss would do.)

I bet one could do a 2 liter on top of a one gallon milk jug as a two story hempy.

This is an excellent idea that I may try at some point with a hempy. Dr Ziggy taught me to stack them, but I didn't know then about the tap root on autos. Someday I'll try it to see. I kinda did that with a couple DDAs in the tiny closet, by collaring the seedling when it was lanky, but they were seeds I started in the finish pots.

Enjoy your well cured Carnival - I'm 2 months away from my first Carnival harvest - thanks so much for getting me going in that direction :)

It's been my pleasure Rad. I know it made Graytail real happy to see another of the crew pick up the Carnival habit. Of course, you don't know how delicious a strain she is yet. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Wow! They look even better on harvest day. Well done!:thumb:

Thank you. Working on the fresh harvest oil right now. I think I may hold off on the pressure cooker for a time. I enjoy the hands on if this method. It's teaching me a lot doing it on the stovetop.

Fresh Harvest Oil: Dark Devil Auto 6

I ended up with 80 grams of buds for the oil, to which I added 100 ml of olive oil and a Tablespoon of liquid sunflower lecithin, 1/2 after the water boiled off and the rest when the oil is done.

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An additional 10 grams went into the refrigerator to dry low and slow.

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The camera made it look lighter. This is a more true representation of the color of the buds. :slide:

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Yeah..........*big contented sigh*

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Into the pot and smooshed to smitherines with the immersion blender.

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Down to the last fifteen minutes now and very little movement from released CO2.

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I'm so ready to be done with this today. :laughtwo: Standing on my feet for hours over the stove is hard in the knees. When I strain it goes into the fridge overnight before I get to test it.

Thursday I'll take the CBD Critical Cure. I looked in on her earlier and discovered I neglected to water her yesterday as planned. :oops:

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She's already recovered. :cheesygrinsmiley: You can tell just looking at her she's ready to quit. More oil to be produced in two days. Good, I have a day off in between. As much as I enjoy this, it'd be easier with the pressure cooker.

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Hey Sue, see your doing well, always in the background. Been a lot going on in the last yr. Waiting to move which seems like forever. I'm looking for a CBD strain for SAD..Not sure where to go.Seen a stain that is 0.5thc & 14%cbd Still got a lot goin on lol. Will pop carnival when i move but my Kaboom is going crazy, waiting to flower but nowhere to go..

Hello Shaun, always so good to hear from you. :hugs:

I'd be looking at something with a balanced ratio Shaun, or possibly something with twice the CBD as THC. It's not gonna take 14% CBD for SAD. That's the strength used for seizure control. The CBD Critical Cure I grow would be an excellent option for you. You need THC in there to get the effects you're looking for, and I'm pretty sure something balanced would work well for you.
 
SweetSue said:
More oil to be produced in two days. Good, I have a day off in between. As much as I enjoy this, it'd be easier with the pressure cooker.

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It's also easier in the Magical Butter Machine(MB2) - Decarb, put ingredients in the MB2, hit the magical buttons(I did 190 for 8 hours), strain into a container when finished.



Hey Sue, see your doing well, always in the background. Been a lot going on in the last yr. Waiting to move which seems like forever. I'm looking for a CBD strain for SAD..Not sure where to go.Seen a stain that is 0.5thc & 14%cbd Still got a lot goin on lol. Will pop carnival when i move but my Kaboom is going crazy, waiting to flower but nowhere to go..

The CBD could contribute to the feeling of 'wellness' but I would think the indica THC and terpenes is mostly what you need to combat depression. Most CBD strains are CBD Indicas. One example, as SweetSue suggested, would be CBD Critical cure.

If you are more concerned about lethargy, then a CBD Sativa, like CBD Mango Haze, might be better.

But honestly, I haven't read that CBD is good for SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder.). You might be better off with a nice uplifting sativa like Super Silver Haze

An indica will do you better if your SAD issue is sleeplessness.
 
It's also easier in the Magical Butter Machine(MB2) - Decarb, put ingredients in the MB2, hit the magical buttons(I did 190 for 8 hours), strain into a container when finished.





The CBD could contribute to the feeling of 'wellness' but I would think the indica THC and terpenes is mostly what you need to combat depression. Most CBD strains are CBD Indicas. One example, as SweetSue suggested, would be CBD Critical cure.

If you are more concerned about lethargy, then a CBD Sativa, like CBD Mango Haze, might be better.

But honestly, I haven't read that CBD is good for SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder.). You might be better off with a nice uplifting sativa like Super Silver Haze

An indica will do you better if your SAD issue is sleeplessness.

This was fresh harvest oil Rad. Couldn't be done in the MB2 for this effect. I wish it could. I have yet to unpack my newest machine. :laughtwo:

I keep hearing wonderful things about the Mango Haze.
 
There is speculation that an auto goes into flower when her taproot spreads along the bottom of the pot. Has anyone tried putting a pot with no bottom on top of a larger pot and starting from seed in a 'tower' pot?

Yes, I do this with my autos. The two Autos I didnt know were autos, I let get rootbound in the solo cups before up-potting, and they stayed 7 " tall.

Those I planted in a bottomless solo cup in their tall 3 gallon kitchen trash bins, grew to 48", each one was one big COLA.
 
I started the day chopping DDA6 at 8 AM. Washed her and hung her to dry. Took care of the rest of the garden and then went to work processing her. Somewhere in the course of the day I took a couple breaks to tend to domestic chores and walk to the store for the daughter, but the entire rest of the day was devoted to making the oil, reclaiming the oil bound up in the plant waste material, and cleaning up after the fact.

It's coming up on 11:30 PM and I'm finally done, and have the chance to sample the two tiny pieces I accidentally clipped last night pulling fans and left to dry on the heat sinks. :cheesygrinsmiley:

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I honestly don't understand where the characterization of "lazy stoner" came from. This has always been my reaction to cannabis. Being high makes me more productive.

 
This was fresh harvest oil Rad. Couldn't be done in the MB2 for this effect. I wish it could. I have yet to unpack my newest machine. :laughtwo:

I keep hearing wonderful things about the Mango Haze.

I don't quite understand why this doesn't work for the fresh harvest technique - the MB2 stirs every few minutes and inputs the preset temperature.
Maybe I need to read and discuss it on another thread?



Yes, I do this with my autos. The two Autos I didnt know were autos, I let get rootbound in the solo cups before up-potting, and they stayed 7 " tall.

Those I planted in a bottomless solo cup in their tall 3 gallon kitchen trash bins, grew to 48", each one was one big COLA.

Thanks AKGramma. I though some folks were doing this, but couldn't remember names.
 
There is speculation that an auto goes into flower when her taproot spreads along the bottom of the pot. Has anyone tried putting a pot with no bottom on top of a larger pot and starting from seed in a 'tower' pot?

(I love the imagery, something Dr. Seuss would do.)

I bet one could do a 2 liter on top of a one gallon milk jug as a two story hempy.


Hmmm....
Tead has 2Ls.... Tead has much taller 6" round PVC pots.... Tead has auto seeds.... Tead has a built in curiosity and a need to kick tires for himself.
Plus, I know allot about Tweedle Beetles and their warlike ways!
 
I don't quite understand why this doesn't work for the fresh harvest technique - the MB2 stirs every few minutes and inputs the preset temperature.
Maybe I need to read and discuss it on another thread.

You can discuss anything here Rad. :hugs: :Love:

It won't work because fresh material is wet, and you have to boil the water out to get the concentration you're seeking. Decarbing wet material is also tricky. I have done it though, and it's something that should be explored. Remember my emergency teardown when I was growing my first CBD Critical Cure and Carnival? When I had to tear down the big tent? I decarbed the plant material in the oven, using roasting bags, then tossed them into the freezer for an hour before adding them to the oil and running a cycle in the MB2.

Those were the capsules that I started my daughter on, and they were effective for her medicine. I've since started doing the method the way PsyCro laid it out and the potency is through the roof. She weighs almost a hundred pounds more than me now, which is why the capsules I'm now using don't send her into space the way they do her mother.

So it can be done in the MB2, but with the water retained in the mix you don't get the potent medicine you do when you boil off the water. Effective medicine - and this is an important point. Less is often more with cannabinoid therapies, a concept I'm still learning after all these decades of thinking of cannabis as a way to get high and forget the shit we thought life was throwing at us. Interesting how I now understand we were bringing all that to us with our thoughts. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Live long enough and you learn to laugh at the folly you put yourself through as you wander down your chosen path. :laughtwo:

Which leads me to a question I left in my study hall yesterday and I'll now leave here. When using a pressure cooker for this method PsyCro's instructions are to fill the pressure cooker 1/4 with water, add the plant material and mash with an immersion blender. Then add oil, blend, bring to a boil, close the pressure cooker up and let it run for 2 hours.

How does the water in the mix and in the plant material vent from the pressure cooker? I have no experience with this type of cooking mechanism, so any insight one can offer would be greatly appreciated. I haven't ordered the pressure cooker yet. I want to understand this before I make such a large investment.
 
Hmmm....
Tead has 2Ls.... Tead has much taller 6" round PVC pots.... Tead has auto seeds.... Tead has a built in curiosity and a need to kick tires for himself.
Plus, I know allot about Tweedle Beetles and their warlike ways!

See? I thought of you when I read that. The taller pipes would be your best choice for the auto seeds. Did you grow the Devil's Crack in in a 2L? I'd try the next one in a taller pipe and see if you get a little more veg time. I don't have space to run that experiment, but your garden is the perfect setup for this anyway Rev. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
See? I thought of you when I read that. The taller pipes would be your best choice for the auto seeds. Did you grow the Devil's Crack in in a 2L? I'd try the next one in a taller pipe and see if you get a little more veg time. I don't have space to run that experiment, but your garden is the perfect setup for this anyway Rev. :cheesygrinsmiley:


I can't agree more.

The SSDC was in a 2.5gal bucket with 2 plants.
 
You can discuss anything here Rad. :hugs: :Love:

It won't work because fresh material is wet, and you have to boil the water out to get the concentration you're seeking. Decarbing wet material is also tricky. I have done it though, and it's something that should be explored. Remember my emergency teardown when I was growing my first CBD Critical Cure and Carnival? When I had to tear down the big tent? I decarbed the plant material in the oven, using roasting bags, then tossed them into the freezer for an hour before adding them to the oil and running a cycle in the MB2.

Those were the capsules that I started my daughter on, and they were effective for her medicine. I've since started doing the method the way PsyCro laid it out and the potency is through the roof. She weighs almost a hundred pounds more than me now, which is why the capsules I'm now using don't send her into space the way they do her mother.

So it can be done in the MB2, but with the water retained in the mix you don't get the potent medicine you do when you boil off the water. Effective medicine - and this is an important point. Less is often more with cannabinoid therapies, a concept I'm still learning after all these decades of thinking of cannabis as a way to get high and forget the shit we thought life was throwing at us. Interesting how I now understand we were bringing all that to us with our thoughts. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Live long enough and you learn to laugh at the folly you put yourself through as you wander down your chosen path. :laughtwo:

Which leads me to a question I left in my study hall yesterday and I'll now leave here. When using a pressure cooker for this method PsyCro's instructions are to fill the pressure cooker 1/4 with water, add the plant material and mash with an immersion blender. Then add oil, blend, bring to a boil, close the pressure cooker up and let it run for 2 hours.

How does the water in the mix and in the plant material vent from the pressure cooker? I have no experience with this type of cooking mechanism, so any insight one can offer would be greatly appreciated.
I haven't ordered the pressure cooker yet. I want to understand this before I make such a large investment.

I wondered the same thing. I have one in the storage building - brand spanking new and never used. I've often thought about breaking it out for beef roast. Maybe there are some instructions. :rofl:

If dry well cured material were used, say about an ounce; could one use an electric mixer rather than the immersion blender?
 
I wondered the same thing. I have one in the storage building - brand spanking new and never used. I've often thought about breaking it out for beef roast. Maybe there are some instructions. :rofl:

If dry well cured material were used, say about an ounce; could one use an electric mixer rather than the immersion blender?

I suppose you could Jim. Never thought to try. Let us know your results. Shiggity is working on decarbing in a water bath. We have a discussion on the study hall right now.
 
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