SweetSue's Perpetual 2.0 - The Transition To Doc Bud's HBB Kit

SO a story to share with you Sue. I met a guy at physical therapy a few months ago and we kind of hit it off. A lot of things in common despite age difference. Conversation over time switched to cannabis and he is a fairly regular user. I shared that my recent harvest was finally done and if he would like, he could swing by and pick some up to try out (I wanted someone who was fairly experienced to give me honest feedback on my medicine). So he stopped by a few weeks ago and picked up small a few grams of all 4 strains I grew.

Today he contacted me and told me he started to use the Durban Poison as a replacement for all his anti-anxiety and anti-depressant meds and he feels better than ever before and without any of the side effects. Definitely glad to have given him something to help. It really makes me cringe to see people being prescribed all this crap. I hate taking any meds for pain or anything else (until I found the power of cannabis). Guess I might have to grow out some more Durban Poison!! I absolutely love the strain for a daytime high. Looking forward to trying to grow some of that Carnival out and comparing the highs.
 
How long is your beard?? I haven't touched mine since I blew my back out in October last year. Its about 11" long now. I about cut it off a few times over the summer, but I have made it to the cooling down period and its not too bad anymore. I am looking a little too much like Jamey Johnson now I think.

Yikes, not that long. Little over half that (just yanked a hair out to check, lol). Rate of growth drastically slowed a few (err... eight?) years ago, about the time that it went from color to almost all white. DOGGONE POWER BLINK Ah, I'm pleased to see the "restore content" function still works fine in posts, lol. And I'm glad I chose to use a journaling file system when I installed linux. Anyway...

Now it takes a month to grow what I used to see in a week. That bothered me for about a minute. Then I panicked, thinking it signified an absence of testosterone. But I still yelled at at pigeons (not '420, lol, the winged rats), craved red meat (cooked until it was no longer red in the middle), and (assumption) one of the testicles appears to be working fine, lol. So... IDK.

It's almost like I go to bed one night, then wake up with one new sign of aging - but that particular one is fully advanced. Which would be okay if I could pick and choose, but I'm a little worried that I'll go to bed and wake up in my own urine or something :rolleyes3 . Not really (<KNOCKS FURIOUSLY ON WOOD>), but it does seem like it. Fell asleep reading a book, the next day I couldn't focus on the text no matter how much I squinted, had to find the ebook version (adjustable font sizes - life saver!). Got a faint little spot on one arm, figured it was one of those liver spot things, shrugged and went on... Time passed, no more. Rinse/lather/repeat. Still no more. Woke up and realized I had, IDK, 22 of them and the skin on my arms looked closer to my (upper 70s) mother's than what my own looked a couple months before. Went to bed cheerful and woke up the next day as a cranky old far-- ohwaitaminute, I was born that way ;) .

On-topic content: Err... Gee, SweetSue your plants still more wonderful every time you post an update! I don't really have anything else to contribute.

But today is Get off my duff and stop procrastinating... err.. day. Now where'd I hide the seeds this time, lol? Are you actually starting your seeds in cups of perlite now? Or still soaking them and placing them when they've opened and a root tip has emerged? I must have missed that part, and I was thinking about growing a couple in it more or less from the start to skip the trauma of removing the soil from the roots early in life.
 
I haven't cut my tail in ... 6 years? ... and it's getting shorter, anyway. :laugh: Damned stuff breaks off by itself at a certain length now. Saved me hundreds in haircuts, though. :slide:
 
I haven't cut my tail in ... 6 years?

Err... I thought they cut newborns' tails off soon after delivery, if they were afflicted in that manner.

Saved me hundreds in haircuts, though.

Ah, you mean hair ;) . As I recall, the woman I was living with in 1989 had an eight-year old boy who was growing one of those. I think he called his a rat tail, for whatever reason. It lasted until he got into a fight and found out such things make pretty good handles, lol.

I used to let my hair grow until it'd pass for an '80s rock band member's "mop." Ladies liked it far more than I ever did. I mostly just let it grow like that because I could never seem to find anyone who could cut it decently short without leaving it sticking up in 83 different directions. But it was always getting into my eyes, and when the wind blew hard or I was driving/riding fast, it'd whip everywhere (including the eyeballs, which was even more annoying than it just falling across them). So I ended up going through about a dozen different barbers and whatchamacallits, beauticians until I found one who actually knew how to cut hair, how the stuff acts when it grows, how to cut hair that grows up on one side of the back of your head and down on the other side so that it actually looked even (as opposed to actually being even - which always ended up looking horrible :rolleyes3 ).

Now I could care less how it looks, as long as it's out of my eyes. I try to get it cut at least every three months or so, as and when I can afford it (IOW, I haven't had a haircut between November and March in years, lol).
 
Dale shaved his beard off twice in the 32 years we were together, and his hair almost as infrequently. At one point the braid was almost to his waist. It was funny, him with all his hair and me with my wash and wear hair. Lol!

TS, I soak the seeds for 12-16 hours and then plant them into the hempy solo, whether they crack or not. I'll be starting in perlite for soil plants as well.

I found a combination that knocked me flat on my ass. :laughtwo: Got up this morning and took my morning capsule of CBD Critical Cure, as is my habit. Then I made porridge with canna butter, completely forgetting that it was a strong concentration of Carnival, not my typical butter made with trim. Then I took a few hits with Pigeons 420 and chose Malawi. Went out shopping with the daughter, and I was so intoxicated I was stumbling and slurring my words, my mouth was so dry. Came home to fall across the bed and sleep it off for four hours.

Whew! There were a couple moments there while we were out when I remember thinking "You overdid it gal!" That's only happened three times in three years. Lol!

Time to hit that Malawi again. :cheesygrinsmiley:

I flipped the timer back an hour in the tiny closet to 11/13. Let's see if I can accelerate the flowering finish of these two Amazons.

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Great looking plants Sue.

Speaking of Amazons:

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I did manage to get this one out of the closet mostly unharmed. Mostly. Lol.

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She started out such a tiny thing Ditch! :laughtwo:
 
Good morning everyone :Love:

It's a marvelous day. The last thing I read last night was the post of another member who worked with us on Cajun's cancer thread and had her labs come back clean. :yahoo:

That's really why I appear to work so hard on your behalf. I say appear because it never feels like work on my end. Draining and obsessive sometimes when I get so involved that I don't take time to rest and eat, but that's simply me not listening to my own body asking for playtime. What I do here on site I do for the sheer joy of researching and writing. That my work has been a help to others is icing on my already delicious slice of cake. :battingeyelashes: :Love:

Look!!! Everyone in the early tent is now in bloom. :yahoo:

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Thin Mint GSC is now blooming!! :slide:

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I determined to bend the tall stalks over on Candy Cane 3. I've been here before with a White Widow that I didn't bend as carefully. These'll bounce back like the one in the front did overnight. I'm just trying to keep them from being damaged by the lights and the top leaves were beginning to crisp.

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Not optimal, but better. These RX Green Solutions nutrients are growing the biggest, boldest plants I've grown to date. It'll be a few turns to learn to train the plants to fit my space. They keep surprising me. :laughtwo:

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Time for breakfast and a walk along the river before I do today's update. It's just too pretty out there to wait for later. One of the glories of being retired is the ability to do whatever you want on your schedule. I'm taking my joy on the road for a spell, as I take my walk. I encourage you to be big and bold in your sense of gratitude and get out there yourself, sharing that bubbling joy with any lucky soul that wanders into your atmosphere. It'll make your day sparkle a bit more, and there can't be enough sparkly moments in a day, IMHO. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
SO a story to share with you Sue. I met a guy at physical therapy a few months ago and we kind of hit it off. A lot of things in common despite age difference. Conversation over time switched to cannabis and he is a fairly regular user. I shared that my recent harvest was finally done and if he would like, he could swing by and pick some up to try out (I wanted someone who was fairly experienced to give me honest feedback on my medicine). So he stopped by a few weeks ago and picked up small a few grams of all 4 strains I grew.

Today he contacted me and told me he started to use the Durban Poison as a replacement for all his anti-anxiety and anti-depressant meds and he feels better than ever before and without any of the side effects. Definitely glad to have given him something to help. It really makes me cringe to see people being prescribed all this crap. I hate taking any meds for pain or anything else (until I found the power of cannabis). Guess I might have to grow out some more Durban Poison!! I absolutely love the strain for a daytime high. Looking forward to trying to grow some of that Carnival out and comparing the highs.

I love these little moments when the universe brings you together with someone like this. It reinforces my belief that we have cosmic forces working on our behalf. Anyone here read about DMT? I did yesterday, and the little bit I read convinced me that there's much more going on in the cosmos than we can see or sense without assistance, and this valuable component is one that your body creates on its own. Someday I'll have to experiment.
 
Read, heard... <COUGH>et cetera. Wrong forum, though.

Hey, I've been trying to read your DDA community thread (I'm up to July... of last year :rolleyes3 ). And I think I might have misunderstood something. Is SSDC... an auto-flowering strain? Because I got some from the Helping & Healing Hands Seedbank a while back. I sprouted some autos, and was going to start a couple others to keep them company. And I was thinking (first mistake, thinking ;) ) it was a phototropic strain - but then I saw mention of it in the DDA thread. I'm trying to "budget" so that I can try planting autos here and there outdoors next Spring/Summer, maybe make it a weekly thing for a while. But if those SSDC are autos, too, that gives me 20 more a-f seeds - which means I can go back to my original idea of going nuts (wait, no more nuts in my grow room, please... going wild, lol?) and plant more than just a couple additional ones.

I have been growing a tiny Blueberry x White Widow in a cup until I could sex it. I'm having trouble seeing, but I think it might be blue cigar time :sad: . But there was a crunchy little leaf about to fall off the bottom of its stem. I took it, crunched it up between my fingers, and smelled it. What a pleasant fragrance. I won't say it's a lemon-scented blueberry, but I did get an impression of citrus and berries of some sort. It was enough to make me smile, even through my annoyed frown at not getting a female this time. I think that one might be a good choice for a 2-liter SOG at some point in the future. I'll just need to find a female. No worries.

The Jack Herer clone gave behavior as if it had been taken from a plant in flower, but seems to have snapped out of it. Wow, that strain (or at least this particular example) sure likes to branch. IDK whether to use it this run or not. If I do, I'd be cutting 1/3 of the light hours at some point, and... autos. I may keep it around without trying to flower it - but it doesn't appear to even notice root restriction (small pots), and I can't handle another plant that wants to grow 20+ 2' to 3'+ branches like its mom did. Be an awesome thing to grow outdoors in a location that had a longer growing season.
 
Went out shopping with the daughter, and I was so intoxicated I was stumbling and slurring my words, my mouth was so dry.

LOL ... and I thought Sue had already achieved maximus highdom!

I am more like George Carlin described in his old age ... three hits and I very good to go!

I did overdo it about 6 months ago at a concert (audience member, not performing), and I took six or seven bong rips of Gorilla in the parking lot. About 15 minutes later we were inside the venue and I felt like my mouth was Gorilla Glued shut from it's namesake. I was trying to speak with some other folks in the lobby during the preshow, and my tongue and whole mouth were as devoid of any and all moisture. Not just dry, but like freakin arid. One lady in the group offered me a full Corona and whispered in my ear ... do you have a small piece of whatever you smoked, its affects appear righteous? My wife, laughing with a shared Sahara pie hole, offered to bring her back to the parking lot and imbibe. 15 minutes later, they returned, the beer was gone (and I don't like beer), and they were new best friends, buying water at the snack bar like South Floridians in Irmas path.

I had to share the recent parched story Sue ... the worst cotton mouth I have ever experienced in about 50 years of MJ smoking, that I can remember anyway. Maybe that's the problem .. my age? But I thought old folks suffered from drooly excesses and usually can't control salivation? Ahhhh ... another medicinal use ... dry up droolers!

Peace

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Keith
 
Read, heard... <COUGH>et cetera. Wrong forum, though.

and... autos. I may keep it around without trying to flower it - but it doesn't appear to even notice root restriction (small pots), and I can't handle another plant that wants to grow 20+ 2' to 3'+ branches like its mom did. Be an awesome thing to grow outdoors in a location that had a longer growing season.

Auto: you can control the height by the depth of your pot you planted it in. Once an Auto tap root hit's bottom, it does the switch. I kept my autos at about 36" - 48" by planting them in 3 gallon 14" trash bins.

You cannot keep an auto in veg. It will flower when it damned well pleases! (well, when the taproot hits bottom)

I've said this before, but it bears repeating for those who follow Sue: I once forgot a seed was auto and planted it in a solo cup. I ended up with a 7 inch plant with a single 3 inch cola.
 
Speaking of beards and such, I last cut, trimmed, or shaved in the late 80s.
Hair and beards have a natural length based on age, health, and diet.
My beards used to be about 16" from my chin, but is now 11".
My hair went from lower back to mid back.

I picked up a thin spot on my head sometime around 57 years old. I accept the changes in color and texture, and I beat my genetics on going bald, but the the thinning hair does bother me.

I thought I had something wise and clever to say, but it seems I'm just old and hair deprived. Maybe I should go plant an autoflower.
 
Speaking of beards and such, I last cut, trimmed, or shaved in the late 80s.
Hair and beards have a natural length based on age, health, and diet.
My beards used to be about 16" from my chin, but is now 11".
My hair went from lower back to mid back.

I picked up a thin spot on my head sometime around 57 years old. I accept the changes in color and texture, and I beat my genetics on going bald, but the the thinning hair does bother me.

I thought I had something wise and clever to say, but it seems I'm just old and hair deprived. Maybe I should go plant an autoflower.

The women folk believe our hair has a natural length as well! Naturally, it should be the natural length THEY want it to be... it's in their nature!!
 
Since Sue doesn't cut off my head for posting off topic in HER journal ...

I've never bought or grown Autos before, I do have lots of seeds of various origins. I generally have a green thumb (thanks Mom). I decided to remedy that omission, and now have 7 strains of Auto seeds in hand. It seems the vast majority of Autos on the market are Indica or majority Indica hybrids. I did find two mainly Sativa Autos. I have read through many of the Auto threads on 420magazine, and as usual came away with a wide variety of experiences and opinions. That's a blessing and a curse, I just have to try and weed out the disinformation.

On that note ... experienced Auto growers ... Are there any special things I should avoid or include in the Auto grow cycle?

From what I can ascertain from experienced growers threads and journals:

1. It seems best to plant the auto in it's final container size and not upsize the container once or twice
2. Run the light cycle at 18/6 throughout the plants life
3. Feed and water as a regular non Auto plant
4. Generally provide the same environmental conditions as you would for a plant maturing in the Fall timeframe
5. Not prune too much (maybe go for four main colas)

Does any of this ring true, or am I way off base?

Thanks for any input, it's greatly appreciated!
 
You cannot keep an auto in veg. It will flower when it damned well pleases! (well, when the taproot hits bottom)

Err... The Jack Herer (clone) that I was thinking about trying to keep in the vegetative (there must be a better word for this!) phase is a phototropic plant. See:
Cannabis strain focus: Jack Herer from Sensi Seeds
Jack Herer
Buy Jack Herer(R) seeds online - Sensi Seeds UK

It's a nice strain, and I'd love to keep the clone in the room while I grow the auto-flowering plants under 18/6. But this particular example... It's mother completely took over a 3'x3' space - whilst being grown in soil(/perlite) in a little pot that's 8" square on top and about 6" square on the bottom. Long "arms" everywhere - with no training, almost every one was still in (close) competition to the top. Which would have been good - in another space and by itself. I actually thought it might have gone shim on me and was in the process of hacking it to bits when I realized that the plant it had overgrown was male :DOH!: . I really need to get a great big magnifying glass :icon_roll .

I've said this before, but it bears repeating for those who follow Sue: I once forgot a seed was auto and planted it in a solo cup. I ended up with a 7 inch plant with a single 3 inch cola.

Hmm... I wonder how many Solo cups fit in a 3'x3' space, lol? Not significantly more than the number of two-liter bottles that would fit in the same space, I suppose. And I may have more of those saved up at this point. I need to hurry up and read the remaining year's worth of posts (got a late start ;) ) in the DDA thread so I can ask about growing one in a cup. I'm curious, and would like to know whether your experience would be typical for this strain. I gather that it is not a high-production strain, but it does not appear like its root growth is out of line with that, so the hit with a smaller root space might not be as significant as with a higher-production strain. Still a very significant factor, of course. I'll not waste a seed if it's only likely to net me a single gram joint (unless I end up with one more seedling than I have containers).

Do you recall what that 3" cola weighed? I've grown clones in small containers before (although they were taller than Solo cups), and know that strain selection plays a major role here.
 
Read, heard... <COUGH>et cetera. Wrong forum, though.

Hey, I've been trying to read your DDA community thread (I'm up to July... of last year :rolleyes3 ). And I think I might have misunderstood something. Is SSDC... an auto-flowering strain? Because I got some from the Helping & Healing Hands Seedbank a while back. I sprouted some autos, and was going to start a couple others to keep them company. And I was thinking (first mistake, thinking ;) ) it was a phototropic strain - but then I saw mention of it in the DDA thread. I'm trying to "budget" so that I can try planting autos here and there outdoors next Spring/Summer, maybe make it a weekly thing for a while. But if those SSDC are autos, too, that gives me 20 more a-f seeds - which means I can go back to my original idea of going nuts (wait, no more nuts in my grow room, please... going wild, lol?) and plant more than just a couple additional ones.

I have been growing a tiny Blueberry x White Widow in a cup until I could sex it. I'm having trouble seeing, but I think it might be blue cigar time :sad: . But there was a crunchy little leaf about to fall off the bottom of its stem. I took it, crunched it up between my fingers, and smelled it. What a pleasant fragrance. I won't say it's a lemon-scented blueberry, but I did get an impression of citrus and berries of some sort. It was enough to make me smile, even through my annoyed frown at not getting a female this time. I think that one might be a good choice for a 2-liter SOG at some point in the future. I'll just need to find a female. No worries.

The Jack Herer clone gave behavior as if it had been taken from a plant in flower, but seems to have snapped out of it. Wow, that strain (or at least this particular example) sure likes to branch. IDK whether to use it this run or not. If I do, I'd be cutting 1/3 of the light hours at some point, and... autos. I may keep it around without trying to flower it - but it doesn't appear to even notice root restriction (small pots), and I can't handle another plant that wants to grow 20+ 2' to 3'+ branches like its mom did. Be an awesome thing to grow outdoors in a location that had a longer growing season.

High TS. This "phototropic" word I've seen you use frequently usually applies to almost all plants. Positive phototropism is a plant that grows toward a light source.

From a dictionary:
In plants, phototropism is a response to blue wavelengths of light and is caused by a redistribution of auxin from the illuminated side to the darker side of the shoot, resulting in quicker growth on the darker side and bending of the shoot toward the source of light.

I believe you're thinking of "photoperiod" which is usually what the cannabis grower would think of as the opposite of an auto flowering strains. A photoperiod plant will begin blooming which starts the reproductive period when it's available light is shortened.

From a dictionary:
noun, Biology.
1. the interval in a 24-hour period during which a plant or animal is exposed to light.

It seems that Sweetie Sue has a great following of new and more experienced growers. I'm not a spelling or grammar Nazi. 'just trying to be helpful. :high-five: I love reading your stuff BTW.
 
Hmm... I wonder how many Solo cups fit in a 3'x3' space, lol? Not significantly more than the number of two-liter bottles that would fit in the same space, I suppose. And I may have more of those saved up at this point. I need to hurry up and read the remaining year's worth of posts (got a late start ;) ) in the DDA thread so I can ask about growing one in a cup. I'm curious, and would like to know whether your experience would be typical for this strain. I gather that it is not a high-production strain, but it does not appear like its root growth is out of line with that, so the hit with a smaller root space might not be as significant as with a higher-production strain. Still a very significant factor, of course. I'll not waste a seed if it's only likely to net me a single gram joint (unless I end up with one more seedling than I have containers).

Do you recall what that 3" cola weighed? I've grown clones in small containers before (although they were taller than Solo cups), and know that strain selection plays a major role here.

The one remaining plant I kept in a Solo for the Auto Competition was Red Poison..another Sweet Seeds offering. Admittedly it was also my first Hempy but she didnt do too badly all considered.

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edit: I have to mention here that the ones I gave up on in the solo hempys and transplanted into 1g nursery pots didnt do as well as this one that I let stay the course.
 
have 7 strains of Auto seeds in hand.

Nice! What are they (and which breeders)?

It seems the vast majority of Autos on the market are Indica or majority Indica hybrids.

Dutch Passion has some newer ones that I'd like to get the chance to try some day - I think they're Auto Ultimate, Auto Euphoria, and Think Different. IDK off the top of my head how much sativa is in their respective genetics (if any), but IIRC they are supposed to get large, potent, and happy. Sweet Seeds has some auto-flowering strains that look to be significantly better than the earlier auto strains, tasty, pretty, and (apparently) reasonably potent. Again, IDK the percentages of sativa in them.

I get the feeling that a straight sativa/autoflower cross (bred enough to consistently auto-flower) would be likely to be quite the low-production plant (more so than its sativa parent). That's just a guess, but it could explain why there are so few "pure" (other than the ruderalis a/f gene) sativas, when I'd think that they'd almost be THE reason to have auto-flowering strains in the first place (ability to plant a "sativa" outdoors just about anywhere and still see it finish before the temperatures fell too much for cannabis).

I have read through many of the Auto threads on 420magazine, and as usual came away with a wide variety of experiences and opinions. That's a blessing and a curse, I just have to try and weed out the disinformation.

There will be some misinformation. People hear/read things and pass it along without personally verifying it... sometimes that perpetuates a statement until it seems to get accepted as fact. But I think a lot of the "variety" is because there are so many variables in play between one person's cannabis garden and another's (or, often, even between two different grows by the same person). IOW, if you happen to see two differing opinions/experiences in regards to the same thing, take a look and see if there are differences in the two grows (even the grower's personality could be a factor - lazy procrastinators might have poor results from a method that suits a really anal OCD type).

1. It seems best to plant the auto in it's final container size and not upsize the container once or twice

There still seems to be some debate about this. I might guess (since I am NOT an experienced a-f grower) that it depends on the media and watering schedule/method a little bit (a five-gallon pot, watered to even dampness with a tiny plant in it, will take a while to dry out - because more depends on evaporation than transpiration in this case). It does seem to be true that restricting the taproot's growth tends to be a cue for the plant to get on with the program - and that plants' roots often get to this point far quicker than many people expect.

So... Assuming the typical grower, it might be safe to say that placing the seed/seedling into its "final" pot will tend to produce larger plants, everything else being equal. But some folks will be (and have been, it appears) the exception to the rule.

2. Run the light cycle at 18/6 throughout the plants life

I think (again, I don't know) that the thing depends more on how much light-energy it receives per day than solely on how many hours' worth of light it receives. I'd like to be able to grow several (as many as would comfortably fit) in two areas of the same size/shape, but with one being illuminated by a 400-watt HPS for 18 hours per day and the other one being illuminated by a 600-watt HPS for 12 hours per day. But I'd also like to have a fireman's pole to get downstairs and an elevator to get pack up instead of these hateful stairs, lol. Like Pop used to say, wish in one hand and...

3. Feed and water as a regular non Auto plant

Eh... Sort of, but some things that might not matter to the grower of phototropic plants could end up being more significant for those who grow auto-flowers. Cut a plant's nitrogen too soon and it might just start flowering earlier than you'd like - and give you a smaller yield at harvest time because of that. Keep feeding nitrogen at high levels and it could delay flowering (which might be an unwanted result). The "keep slowly ramping up the nutrient concentrations until you see mild burning at the leaf tips, then back it off a notch" approach might be a bad one to take with autos, due to their more finite life, since there would seem to be less time to recover from stress events. Again, these are guesses.

4. Generally provide the same environmental conditions as you would for a plant maturing in the Fall timeframe

Auto-flowering plants go through the same phases of life that phototropic ones do; vegetative growth, flowering stretch, flowering post-stretch. The plant just switches from vegetative to flowering regardless of the light/dark cycles. AfaIK, that's pretty much the only real difference. Given that, I'd think that the optimum environmental conditions would be the same as with phototropic strains (of the same "type"), they'd just change quicker. If you germinate and grow out a phototropic strain under 12/12 light, it would give comparable behavior - it'll be in the vegetative phase until it is sexually mature, then flower with the first 40% of the flowering being the stretch phase, and the remaining 60% sees no significant vertical growth. In fact, there was a sponsor here some years back who advocated growing his strains in this manner. I'd probably think about recommending the same thing, lol, because I'd tend to sell a lot more seeds if my customers were always growing from seeds instead of finding/keeping mother plants and producing clones.

5. Not prune too much (maybe go for four main colas)

I generally only prune (top) if I'm trying to keep a plant small and it's not cooperating. If I want bushier growth and/or am trying to get the side branches to catch up with the main one, I don't cut that main stem - I tie it down, so that the plant redistributes the auxins from that top stem to those that are now highest on the plant. Then, if/when I'm satisfied, I can release that main stem... because the plant still has a main stem at that point; I didn't lose its mass by removing it.

I've been thinking (oh no! ;) )... If I grow some auto-flowering plants in two-liter bottles, close together, I'll undoubtedly see some lower/side branching that I'll wish to remove. If I have some leftover space (questionable, but one never knows) at that time, I might end up sticking them into soil or perlite. They'll be the same age as the plants they came from, so I would expect rather small plants (even in regards to auto-flowers in general) by harvest time. But removing such things from closely-planted plants shouldn't hurt yields; actually, it should increase them, IMHO. And if the cuttings are just used as "filler" in the odd space or corner, they - collectively - might contribute a not insignificant amount to the overall yield (even four grams per clone... multiplied by seven clones... equals a lid, lol).

Does any of this ring true, or am I way off base?

Looks like you know at least as much as I do about these critters, and probably more. I'm going to (attempt to) "shut up" now and see what others have to "say" so that I can increase my knowledge. Thank you very much for asking these questions.
 
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