SweetSue's Cannabis Oil Study Hall

Robileaf said:
Sweet Sue, can ask about your theories on using Lecithin and cooling overnight?
I understand what lecithin does but do you find the overnight cooling helps with the bonding/absorption?
Thanx for any insights.
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This is what I could find:
SweetSue said:
The [oils] are most effective if you mix the oils and lecithin and refrigerate at least overnight, if not the 24 hours Cajun recommended before you make the capsules. The cannabinoids...need time and opportunity to bond to the oil molecules to increase the bioavailability. The addition of the lecithin requires you to give it the time to encapsulate the cannabinoids and oil. These things can't happen if you don't mix first and refrigerate.
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Dani smoke said:
Someone put me here asking for vape oils but IL gladly learn more :)
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:welcome: to brainstorming central Dani. :hugs: ShiggityFlip had an excellent thread on the subject that may help.

Making stable e-liquid from cannabis extract

If there's anything else you could use help with simply say the word and someone will point you in the right direction.

@Robileaf, You need time to let the process work, but I've pretty much figured out that the refrigeration is to keep spoilage of the oil down.

As to the addition of liquid sunflower lecithin, I've come to the opinion that a little more isn't such a bad thing. That recipe Cajun started us out with for suppositories that we turned into BioBombs is, in all likelihood, more effective than our rework, because the concentration of lecithin is higher. Those higher cannabinoid counts in the BioBombs is an excellent addition for suppositories, IMO, but taking them through the gut is a cautionary tale.

If he hadn't passed away as quickly as he did we may have been able to get more insight into the lecithin, although I'm not certain he understood fully what was going on either.
 

At 5:50 he talks about the members-only clubs in Spain where patients have been going to acquire cannabis medicines. The interesting part to me was the strength of the capsules they were passing out that were having such positive effect on a wide range of patients with chronic diseases:

.6 mg THC & .6 mg of CBD

This was in 2015. Yeah....it has me thinking that we’re all overdosing.
 
No one thinks you are!
 
I agree Sue. I think many are consuming more than they need for healing.

The whole Simpson and bio Bomb thing suffers from any studies that a (much?) smaller dose wouldn’t help just as much. Of course product sellers will promote this large dose thinking.

Expensive urine.
 
overlord said:
I don't know if smaller doses are better or not..

But I do know the higher doses sure are fun..... :yahoo:
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I’d have to agree m’lord lol!

Oldbear said:
I agree Sue. I think many are consuming more than they need for healing.

The whole Simpson and bio Bomb thing suffers from any studies that a (much?) smaller dose wouldn’t help just as much. Of course product sellers will promote this large dose thinking.

Expensive urine.
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Testing facilities and home testing equipment are in our future Oldbear, I’m certain if it, and it’ll make dosing much easier to get fine tuned. :battingeyelashes:

Thanks to all the work we’ve put in over here and on other threads scattered around the site I was able to take bits and pieces of what I had available and formulate an oil I believe is a close match from the cannabinoid perspective to the medicine I keep my daughter level on. I built it to be in the neighborhood of 5 mg of THC and 7-8 mg of CBD per ml of carrier oil.

Medicine, all ready to go

Medicine, all ready to go

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CBD oil

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I also made her some Mendocino Underdog oil for sleep and rec use, although most of her rec choices will be vaped flower.

THC oil

THC oil

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I’ll be moving, which brings a halt to her easy access to canna meds. What I leave her is all she’ll have until our government comes to grips with science and reality and we can ship meds to our loved ones without fear of imprisonment.

All my study, all the techniques I’ve developed to bring her relief, and it’s all worthless to her in the face of prohibition unless I stay here and continue on as I’ve been doing.

I have no plans to set my own life on hold for her. She’s 36 years old and fully aware of the consequences of her fear of improbable federal repercussions. This is a battle that simply isn’t mine to fight, hard as that may be to face.

In time I believe this’ll all resolve itself, and for now I’ve begun to be ok with the way it’s worked out. Not quite there yet, but I’ll get catch up to the feeling before long. I can write about it now and not cry in frustration. Baby steps. :smokin2:
 
I haven’t seen anything yet Oldbear, and I’ll add it to the list of mental alerts. I do know that an overdose of CBD will cause a certain amount of gastric distress. It’s one of the warning signs. I guess you could say it’s an oversaturation.

Won’t it be fun when all this is already easily available because governments direct money to research that’s actually relevant? Lol! .
 
SweetSue said:
SlowToke, thank you for the incredible kick-start to my brain this morning. I'll need to do some background study and watch that again, maybe two more times, :laughtwo: but I'm beginning to follow them more and more, which is good news for the project, isn't it? LOL!

Great share. The more we understand about what the body does with this marvelous medication the better our likelihood of finding ways to fine-tune dosing and possibly conserve the oil while getting desired therapeutic effects.

Good Lord, I'm beginning to think like a medical professional. :laughtwo:
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I know these posts are almost 3 years old, but I’m reading through as much as I can to get to where I need to be, Wish I was involved back then as I think I might’ve been somewhat helpful perhaps? I do have a degree in biology and genetics and much of this is familiar but Wayback in the overgrown jungle of my brain. I’m currently trying to figure out the best way to self medicate using cannabinoids and Turpines with the caveats that I’m looking for a job, so cannot use THC for now, I have type two diabetes, non-alcoholic fatty liver and psoriasis. So I have some restrictions And a never ending list of new questions!
So for now, Read on, read on!
 
LivRx said:
I know these posts are almost 3 years old, but I’m reading through as much as I can to get to where I need to be, Wish I was involved back then as I think I might’ve been somewhat helpful perhaps? I do have a degree in biology and genetics and much of this is familiar but Wayback in the overgrown jungle of my brain. I’m currently trying to figure out the best way to self medicate using cannabinoids and Turpines with the caveats that I’m looking for a job, so cannot use THC for now, I have type two diabetes, non-alcoholic fatty liver and psoriasis. So I have some restrictions And a never ending list of new questions!
So for now, Read on, read on!
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You might be better off asking your questions now LivRx. :battingeyelashes: A lot has changed since we started this adventure. This thread was a brainstorming effort and much of what we learn gets developed into other medical threads.
 
SweetSue said:
:laughtwo: This is valuable information to know, and something I hadn't uncovered yet, so thank you so very much for sharing that Cajun.

*sigh* Let me breathe a minute......... This thread has the potential to turn into a wonderful brainstorming session, if we all let it happen. Cajun's probably the most professionally prepared for what we're attempting here, but we all bring valuable pieces to the table. If we suspend any hesitation and just jump right in we can help each other come to an understanding of what this wonderful medication is doing and find ways to improve the way it's being produced and administered out here in the trenches where so many of us are living. We can offer safe, economical and responsible ways to enhance people's lives with CCO.

And admit it, you love the learning too. :laughtwo: This is like a little slice of heaven to me. I've given myself permission to indulge in my love of immersive learning. Sweet! Thank you all for participating. :circle-of-love:
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❤️❤️❤️ immersive learning, yes! ❤️❤️❤️
 
LivRx said:
I’m currently trying to figure out the best way to self medicate using cannabinoids and Turpines with the caveats that I’m looking for a job, so cannot use THC for now, I have type two diabetes, non-alcoholic fatty liver and psoriasis. So I have some restrictions And a never ending list of new questions!
So for now, Read on, read on!
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Ask away ...lots of helpers here. No THC restricts you to a cbd only protocol. Lots of buy and/or grow options there.

Its posted on here in many places that cannabis therapy without lifestyle changes does not accomplish what it could. I would encourage you to try a significant reduction / elimination of consuming processed sugars and low grade carbs, which turn in to sugars in your body.

Im in a battle dealing with my sugar addiction so I know how tough it is to accomplish this.
 
A question that belongs in another place where they talk about testing and urine samples and such.

If you ingest undecarbed bud with thc acid content only, does that show up in a blood test?
 
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