SweetSue's Cannabis Oil Study Hall

KeifKeith said:
I will be a cheerleader for this thread Sue, I know the hell of Opiate withdrawal, even decades later its as fresh as morning dew in my head and that's a good thing. What worked for me might not work for others, it's certainly not an exact science after all. Not everyone addicted to Opiates is in the same physical condition, what worked for me might kill an older or sick person. After four attempts to stop Opiates, I was finally successful. 40+ years later, I'm still winning, but just for today will I win. Opiate withdrawal was pure frickin' hell, and those memories have served me well in staying Opiate free four decades later. I fear sharing my exact method of cessation, it might or might not be a good method for everyone wanting to stop Opiates and reach zero. The addiction peeps I mentored were all young and relatively healthy, not always the case as folks age, genetics express disease, and injuries pile up. Anyone that reads this and is Opiate addicted and wants to quit has my complete sympathy, compassion and personal understanding. Only YOU can do this for yourself.Opiate addiction and withdrawal is something a human must experience to know truly understand, you can't know the deep dark hole until you live it, day after week after month. I know I can't experience creating a life in my body nor being a mother. I could never really know that experience (though I would if I could!), even though I did participate as a cheerleader throughout the months of creation and birth. Talk to other former Opiate addicts as often as you can, sharing your struggles with another that has walked in those woods does help.


Peace
Keith
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Yes...I can rest. ... it’s been said.. each man...yes ladies u 2....lol...
Must feel the snake bite you, in it’s own way.
You are felling the posion going out and life......gushing in. And you won’t ever be acused of ‘craving that shit to///escape// “ .cause you won’t ever do that shit again..
 
weenmeoff said:
Hi Sue! No way you could let me down! You've done so much to help me! I actually finally got around to cooking it up today and just winged it because I was doing a bunch of stuff I don't really have exact details. The leaves were in a bag, sitting outside with temps below 34 for most of the time so they were still fresh. I just put them in the IP, filled it to the rim, turned on the soup/broth setting, added water and let cook for a while, probably an hour, I forgot about it, D'OH, all water had boiled off so I added more plus coconut oil about a cup or so, didn't measure, covered it back up and let it go for another hour or so, all water boiled off, I used a potatoe masher to squeeze the oil from the leaves, then used the mb2 filter thing to squeeze out as much as possible, I added the sunflower lecithin while still very warm and stirred it in, poured into a mason jar and now it's sitting in the snow. My better half licked the pot and got a nice buzz in about 30-45 minutes. I'll let you know how she winds up liking it, she usually puts some in her coffee.

Thanks Sue and InTheShed!

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Omg... that’s beautiful
 
I just heard from my father's assisted living place and they have reported that my father has taken to sleeping all the time now, like 12 hour stretches and straight through meals. This is after 12 days of 2.5mg each THC/CBD twice a day. I told them to try just once a day in the evenings, but I'm wondering if I might be better off cutting the dose in half and sticking with twice a day. Sleep wasn't the goal here, decreased agitation when awake was.
 
weenmeoff said:
Hi Sue! No way you could let me down! You've done so much to help me! I actually finally got around to cooking it up today and just winged it because I was doing a bunch of stuff I don't really have exact details. The leaves were in a bag, sitting outside with temps below 34 for most of the time so they were still fresh. I just put them in the IP, filled it to the rim, turned on the soup/broth setting, added water and let cook for a while, probably an hour, I forgot about it, D'OH, all water had boiled off so I added more plus coconut oil about a cup or so, didn't measure, covered it back up and let it go for another hour or so, all water boiled off, I used a potatoe masher to squeeze the oil from the leaves, then used the mb2 filter thing to squeeze out as much as possible, I added the sunflower lecithin while still very warm and stirred it in, poured into a mason jar and now it's sitting in the snow. My better half licked the pot and got a nice buzz in about 30-45 minutes. I'll let you know how she winds up liking it, she usually puts some in her coffee.

Thanks Sue and InTheShed!

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Update on effects of this method are very positive! A bag of trim, mostly leaf with some small buds mixed in, all clipped at 14 days post flip. Cooked as is in an instant pot for a couple hours, see deets above. One teaspoon in coffee did the trick for my GF. About 40 minutes in she got a very heady buzz, euphoric with trippy visuals. She got a little anxious and had to smoke a little to cut that, ha! :rofl:

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Hello y'all:
I've been using CBD--primarily the slab isolate I purchased at CBDistillery--added to my tinctures for the past three months. I've also dabbed the slab a few times, but I'd rather add it to tincture. Here are the changes that I'm noticing:

1. Anxiety at an all-time low. Lots of time anxiety-free. I have a faster understanding of what's going on when I do feel stressed. Like I have some perspective and rational thinking going on instead of being completely inside the anxiety/stress.
2. Far less reactivity to other peoples' tomfoolery. Some students act out a lot, stuff they learned in the house they grew up in, and I've been much better this semester at not letting it get to me. Muuuuuch better at not reacting to it. And, quite significantly, no acting out behavior in myself!! I'm staying rational rather than going PTSD.
3. I'm enjoying a high dose of THC much more. If I take a double dose of a very strong tincture on Sat morning, I get a fantastic high that eventually melts into a good 6-7 hours of calm mind and relaxed body. If I take a single dose on weekday mornings very early, like around 4, the high has subsided by 8 and I'm relaxed and calm for my day at work. Caveat: it's not a high that I'd want to be out and about with; it's a high for staying home, being calmly euphoric and creative.

Which brings me to a revision of my understanding of the so-called"bi-phasic effect" and how THC works: The scientific studies seem to stress the negative effects that high THC can have on test subjects, but no one that I know of has studied the positive effects of high THC/high CBD.
Or even just high THC by itself. It's only some people and only some of the time that folks get anxious and paranoid from too much THC. From discussing this with friends, I conclude that quite often people have anx. and paranoia because they are in the wrong circumstances. If I were a test subject in a laboratory, I'd get anx. and paranoid for sure. But put me at home with the cats, the chihuahua, the security of the crib, and I'm chillin...
I just harvested my two CBD Nordles (one harvested yesterday), so I'll be experimenting with actual cannabis CBD rather than the hemp isolate CBD for the first time. I've harvested small amounts of CBD strains previously, but not enough to really test it.
 
InTheShed said:
I just heard from my father's assisted living place and they have reported that my father has taken to sleeping all the time now, like 12 hour stretches and straight through meals. This is after 12 days of 2.5mg each THC/CBD twice a day. I told them to try just once a day in the evenings, but I'm wondering if I might be better off cutting the dose in half and sticking with twice a day. Sleep wasn't the goal here, decreased agitation when awake was.
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Reduce all nine cannabis ‘’’medicines’ and double,the cannabis, .. when awake.. ask him what agitates him? He might tell,you Something? ..

In fact, if I ate some killer thc Cbd snakes and was all,cooped up.. I’d either pester people,or,go,to,sleeep, too. He wisel chose to,go,to sleep. Me .. 50 -50. It’s not thc Cbd.. that’s a catalyst for happiness. . Not a babysitter.
 
I’m working on an ‘insta vape hit’
machina.
Operationally.. place 2 ml of dragon tincture, into base. Solar version .place in sun. Non solar sit in cabinet. Wait..tbd. I do it overnight this started as a test vessel operation. Ow I’ve ran a prototype just for fun.

No blue tooth..yet..
Use geometry and materials to finalize zero energy /solar optional one drop = few hits ..in hours...

‘’Old bear’ please accumulate orders request for first batch,ok?
 
LVMarc42 said:
Reduce all nine cannabis ‘’’medicines’ and double,the cannabis,
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Which means what exactly?
LVMarc42 said:
He wisel chose to,go,to sleep.
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It's not wise to sleep through meals.

Sorry to say that this response is unhelpful. Amounts, ratios, and frequency recommendations are. Riddles and personal anecdotes, less so.
 
InTheShed said:
Which means what exactly?
...sorry... spell wrecker... reduce all non canna meds ASAP.. increase thc Cbd 2.5 mg small.

Shed effects vary, but all cooped up.
No place to go.
Males need to hunt.. something....... hence Fishing. .not per se catching.. builds a deep understanding of the reality.
Boredom is self defeating use of time, right?

Ok...maybe he needs to be placed closer to a female client. Provide a pre - roll, open half carafe of wine, cheese bread, eggplant, ..oh must leave those battery wizard flames ,joint igniters... must have fire..

In summary, aging is a bitch.. alternative is worse. ....

It's not wise to sleep through meals.

Sorry to say that this response is unhelpful. Amounts, ratios, and frequency recommendations are. Riddles and personal anecdotes, less so.
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InTheShed said:
Which means what exactly?

It's not wise to sleep through meals.

She’d...are you absolutely positive that humans were really meant to eat, all,the food triangle, ona schedule, and witching. Dining period? Sounds a whole lot like mass feeding.. skipping hot dog nite might actually benefit him.. what if the food sucks, sometimes and he doesn’t bother to go down for roast crap.. I get that. Don’t you?

Sorry to say that this response is unhelpful. Amounts, ratios, and frequency recommendations are. Riddles and personal anecdotes, less so.
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Sorry Marc, you might have missed the fact that my dad suffers from severe dementia and doesn't know where he is or why from one minute to the next. Cigarettes and whiskey and wild wild women are not on the agenda. And the alternative to aging is not always worse.

Are you suggestion a higher CBD to THC ratio or straight CBD?
 
weenmeoff said:
...The leaves were in a bag, sitting outside with temps below 34 for most of the time so they were still fresh. I just put them in the IP, filled it to the rim, turned on the soup/broth setting, added water and let cook for a while, probably an hour, I forgot about it, D'OH, all water had boiled off so I added more plus coconut oil about a cup or so, didn't measure, covered it back up and let it go for another hour or so, all water boiled off
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Does boiling in water first and not just oil help with the extraction process? I thought cannabis oils wouldn't dissolve in water so I used oil alone, but water would boil off conveniently so that I could then use less oil and boiling water must help break down the cell walls (or is the oil mostly on the surface of the plant - all that sugaring?) - plus I'm always afraid of burning the oil or actually frying the herb.

Having another go tomorrow, so just trying out the different processes.
 
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Now isn’t that just the prettiest thing!

Hi folks - I’ve been catching up... haven’t checked in here for a while. I’m wondering what folks might think about this... CBG: precursor and substrate for both THC and CBD. This suggests to me that when trichomes are still clear, maybe just starting to turn cloudy, that there will likely be a lot of CBG present. SO CBG is starting to get attention as a powerful medicinal Cannbinoid too - for depression, pain, anxiety etc. DOes this suggest that harvesting my CBD critical cure a bit early, while ther’s still some clear would be a good idea. I’m thinkIng so - just wondering if anyone else concurs, and if anyone has read anything else about CBG (can’t remember my references sorry - not very diligent of me... my research around this stuff is pretty ‘fast and loose’ these days).

:Namaste:
 
Shed, I like your idea of reducing the doses but keeping two a day. See how that goes first. 2.5 mg is pretty low for us, but your dad may be more reactive. Try cutting in half.

Nixie, boiling in water won’t release the oil in the same way. The oils are all in that “sugar.” It’s really tiny stalks with caps filled with the plant’s essential oil and they’re all on the surface, mostly inside the flowers.

What boiling does is strip the terpenes from the plant material. Not a desirable thing, in most cases.
 
Amy Gardner said:
I’m wondering what folks might think about this... CBG: precursor and substrate for both THC and CBD. This suggests to me that when trichomes are still clear, maybe just starting to turn cloudy, that there will likely be a lot of CBG present. SO CBG is starting to get attention as a powerful medicinal Cannbinoid too - for depression, pain, anxiety etc. DOes this suggest that harvesting my CBD critical cure a bit early, while ther’s still some clear would be a good idea. I’m thinkIng so - just wondering if anyone else concurs, and if anyone has read anything else about CBG (can’t remember my references sorry - not very diligent of me... my research around this stuff is pretty ‘fast and loose’ these days).

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SweetSue said:
I hadn't considered using CBG to treat those states Amy, but I can see the value of a well-rounded cannabinoid profile, so I'd go for it.
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Thanks Sue - just saw your response to this same question over in the CBD Joy-filled room. I think I’ll see when my helper can come for a harvest party... :yummy:

(does anyone else using mobile devices find that they have to tap the emoti icon twice to get them to come up for selection?)
 
Amy Gardner said:
Thanks Sue - just saw your response to this same question over in the CBD Joy-filled room. I think I’ll see when my helper can come for a harvest party... :yummy:

(does anyone else using mobile devices find that they have to tap the emoti icon twice to get them to come up for selection?)
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Yes, at times. I’m doing my best to practice patience. Lol!
 
My mistake.

I tend to be everywhere at once, usually on two devices simultaneously, and every once in a while I forget where I am on the device in my hand. Lol.!
 
InTheShed said:
I just heard from my father's assisted living place and they have reported that my father has taken to sleeping all the time now, like 12 hour stretches and straight through meals. This is after 12 days of 2.5mg each THC/CBD twice a day. I told them to try just once a day in the evenings, but I'm wondering if I might be better off cutting the dose in half and sticking with twice a day. Sleep wasn't the goal here, decreased agitation when awake was.
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I think halving the dose is a good first step InTheShed, elderly and cannabinoid naive folks can be affected greatly by smaller doses. I don't have a lot of experience treating folks with cannabis, and only offer this with a grand total of 7 elderly folks I have assisted. I'm anything but experienced with cannabis medicinally, but I have handled the waning years of both my parents and also my wifes parents. They all seemed to be much more sensitive to all the chemicals that were prescribed ... 50% or even 25% of the dose that is making your Dad sleep most of the day might be a good new starting point.

Less than 2 cents ...

Peace
Keith
 
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