SweetSue's Cannabis Oil Study Hall

Hope everyone is having a great weekend:-)

I was wondering if anyone has tried using black seed oil with CCO in caps? Been watching a few videos on black seed oil and it sounds promising but we just don’t have the expertise to know if it would be a good choice or not. Hoping to pick the brains of those that do have the expertise and get some feed back possibly?

Blessed Buds our friends and be well :passitleft:
 
Arctic Bowl said:
Hope everyone is having a great weekend:-)

I was wondering if anyone has tried using black seed oil with CCO in caps? Been watching a few videos on black seed oil and it sounds promising but we just don't have the expertise to know if it would be a good choice or not. Hoping to pick the brains of those that do have the expertise and get some feed back possibly?

Blessed Buds our friends and be well :passitleft:
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I'm not 100% but Grow Goddess rings a bell on black seed oil???
 
Arctic Bowl said:
Hope everyone is having a great weekend:-)

I was wondering if anyone has tried using black seed oil with CCO in caps? Been watching a few videos on black seed oil and it sounds promising but we just don't have the expertise to know if it would be a good choice or not. Hoping to pick the brains of those that do have the expertise and get some feed back possibly?

Blessed Buds our friends and be well :passitleft:
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Hadn't even heard of black seed oil until just now AB. You find another rabbit hole for me to dive into? :laughtwo:

I look forward to some sort of report on the benefits of said oil, if that's not too much to ask. A link or two to videos wouldn't be frowned upon. :battingeyelashes: :Love:
 
SweetSue said:
Hadn't even heard of black seed oil until just now AB. You find another rabbit hole for me to dive into? :laughtwo:

I look forward to some sort of report on the benefits of said oil, if that's not too much to ask. A link or two to videos wouldn't be frowned upon. :battingeyelashes: :Love:
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Lol, you give us way too much credit, we wouldn’t know the first step in posting a link :rofl: ......but I’d bet if you searched black seed oil on the U tube it will pop up. I’m going to search to see if it’s a long or med chain fatty acid. I’ll keep you posted on what we find.

Blessed Buds our friend and be well :passitleft:
 
Arctic Bowl said:
Lol, you give us way too much credit, we wouldn't know the first step in posting a link :rofl: ......but I'd bet if you searched black seed oil on the U tube it will pop up. I'm going to search to see if it's a long or med chain fatty acid. I'll keep you posted on what we find.

Blessed Buds our friend and be well :passitleft:
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I'll follow you around all day to share that joint. :battingeyelashes: :Love:

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Doing a little research for Chew this morning on contraindicators of cannabis and beta blockers I came across an excellent article by Delilia Butterfield at the Herb Company. Well worth reading, considering the many things we're bound to come across in our desire to help others.

I included the part about beta blockers.

9 Prescription Medications To Avoid Mixing With Weed

4. Beta blockers
These Are Medications 5 9 Prescription Medications You Should Avoid Mixing With Weed

It’s generally thought that those with heart conditions should be extremely cautious with cannabis. Cannabis can cause blood pressure levels to fluctuate and heart rate, meaning that it might make some more sensitive to a heart attack. This is especially true for novice consumers. In regulars, cannabis may slow heart rate.

Those taking beta blockers or other blood pressure medications should be particularly cautious, as both substances can have opposite effects on heart rate. Beta blockers reduce blood pressure but slow heart rate. In regular consumers, there’s a chance that cannabis may amplify the effects of beta blockers by having an additive effect on slowing heartbeat. Either way, it’s a tricky mix.

Common beta blockers include:

Sectral
Tenormin
Zebeta
Lopressor
Toprol-XL
Corgard
Bystolic
Inderal LA
InnoPran XL
Some symptoms to watch for include:

Feeling faint, fainting
Dizziness
Nausea
Irregular heartbeat
Shallow breathing
Fatigue
Confusion

As I read the article I realized that I don't really consider avoiding cannabis therapies with these drugs, but instead fall into a mentality that says the attending medical team has an increased responsibility to more closely monitor the labs to adjust pharma drug levels.

Any contrary thoughts to that mindset? :battingeyelashes:
 
SweetSue said:
Significant point that can't be lost in the flow:

In recent years there was a study done in San Diego on cannabis and pain. The study revealed
- take too low a dose of cannabis, and you get no relief
- take an optimal dose - typically between 10-15 mg of THC - and you get significant relief
- take a higher than optimal dose and you get either no relief or increased pain\

This was not at all true for me.
Rick Simpson went for >>300-,more towards 500-1000 mg for cancer, established.
Consuming 50 min, and 200 mg often for, weeks, 12 of em, relived 14 months pain lock. I lost 185, to,150.
At these levels there's not much euphoria.bit if smoked. Euphoria is your sesnsation, when rapid change in thc levels. A person sick with pain, poisoned by compound isolate medicine will seek right level..till saturation once you are ..full.you have achieved,what you can achieve. ...for me. I think for all. I used those last 6-8 weeks, to regain use of legs, relieve pain lock, then as 50-75 % drug panel was gone, I,felt good. The whole 'go to zero' thing occurred too. If not then, sue, when? If not,me, whom? Spines afu, poisoned by compounding, trained scientific observer, and the scuba tables are exactly what the 8ng/L driving under influence attempts to model. lol,get,themdata later.

There's an apparent threshold for pain management that it would do well to identify and respect.

What does this suggest for those of us living in pain but fond of euphoria as a lifestyle?

This study created pain with a topical application, and then treated that pain. This is not the same type of pain signals felt by a patient with intractable or debilitating pain, is it? So, one could surmise that this may or may not apply for a patient dealing with serious pain issues.

There are enough people,in real,pain. Sue the nih.. fda data,and worse,test,methods are...retarded. Full,of,errors, omissions.stupid,stuff,no,engineer would allow,ever...they lied on almost,every entry for oxycodone....bastards,


I keep hearing all these limiting statements about a system whose function is creation, one I believe has unlimited, though untapped power to heal the human system. I keep hearing limiting statements about cannabis, a plant that continually amazes us with its adaptive capabilities. Each patient case is individual, and each patient will respond differently to cannabis as a medicine. Beyond broad generalizations, there's so little we understand about what's really going on between the ECS and cannabis we're still shooting in the dark with a plant that won't kill or maim while we experiment.
Limit, oil can out your butt, into,toilet.you see,oil floating. That's saturation to me! 12 grams CCO in 12-18 weeks.. filled me,up,to,do,what I,did. That's all I know. I'd never trust statistic from a study. I'd have to,see what the bastards tried to,do, how,the test was assembled,executed. And if clean then I might consider it.

The next ten years are going to set us back on our heels. :cheesygrinsmiley:
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hi sue
 
LVMarc42 said:
hi sue
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Hey Marc. I was just thinking about you. :laughtwo:

How's it going? :hugs:

EDIT: I found the conversation buried in the quote and reconstructed it. Let me look it over Marc. :battingeyelashes:

SweetSue said:
Significant point that can't be lost in the flow:

In recent years there was a study done in San Diego on cannabis and pain. The study revealed
- take too low a dose of cannabis, and you get no relief
- take an optimal dose - typically between 10-15 mg of THC - and you get significant relief
- take a higher than optimal dose and you get either no relief or increased pain
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LVMarc42 said:
This was not at all true for me.
Rick Simpson went for >>300-,more towards 500-1000 mg for cancer, established.
Consuming 50 min, and 200 mg often for, weeks, 12 of em, relived 14 months pain lock. I lost 185, to,150.
At these levels there’s not much euphoria.bit if smoked. Euphoria is your sesnsation, when rapid change in thc levels. A person sick with pain, poisoned by compound isolate medicine will seek right level..till saturation once you are ..full.you have achieved,what you can achieve. ...for me. I think for all. I used those last 6-8 weeks, to regain use of legs, relieve pain lock, then as 50-75 % drug panel was gone, I,felt good. The whole ‘go to zero’ thing occurred too. If not then, sue, when? If not,me, whom? Spines afu, poisoned by compounding, trained scientific observer, and the scuba tables are exactly what the 8ng/L driving under influence attempts to model. lol,get,themdata later.
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SweetSue said:
There's an apparent threshold for pain management that it would do well to identify and respect.

What does this suggest for those of us living in pain but fond of euphoria as a lifestyle?

This study created pain with a topical application, and then treated that pain. This is not the same type of pain signals felt by a patient with intractable or debilitating pain, is it? So, one could surmise that this may or may not apply for a patient dealing with serious pain issues.
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LVMarc42 said:
There are enough people,in real,pain. Sue the nih.. fda data,and worse,test,methods are...retarded. Full,of,errors, omissions.stupid,stuff,no,engineer would allow,ever...they lied on almost,every entry for oxycodone....bastards,
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SweetSue said:
I keep hearing all these limiting statements about a system whose function is creation, one I believe has unlimited, though untapped power to heal the human system. I keep hearing limiting statements about cannabis, a plant that continually amazes us with its adaptive capabilities. Each patient case is individual, and each patient will respond differently to cannabis as a medicine. Beyond broad generalizations, there's so little we understand about what's really going on between the ECS and cannabis we're still shooting in the dark with a plant that won't kill or maim while we experiment.
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LVMarc42 said:
Limit, oil can out your butt, into,toilet.you see,oil floating. That’s saturation to me! 12 grams CCO in 12-18 weeks.. filled me,up,to,do,what I,did. That’s all I know. I’d never trust statistic from a study. I’d have to,see what the bastards tried to,do, how,the test was assembled,executed. And if clean then I might consider it.
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LVMarc42 said:
hi sue
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Hey Marc. I was just thinking about you. :laughtwo:

How's it going? :hugs:

EDIT: I found the conversation buried in the quote and reconstructed it. Let me look it over Marc. :battingeyelashes:

SweetSue said:
Significant point that can't be lost in the flow:

In recent years there was a study done in San Diego on cannabis and pain. The study revealed
- take too low a dose of cannabis, and you get no relief
- take an optimal dose - typically between 10-15 mg of THC - and you get significant relief
- take a higher than optimal dose and you get either no relief or increased pain
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LVMarc42 said:
This was not at all true for me.
Rick Simpson went for >>300-,more towards 500-1000 mg for cancer, established.
Consuming 50 min, and 200 mg often for, weeks, 12 of em, relived 14 months pain lock. I lost 185, to,150.
At these levels there’s not much euphoria.bit if smoked. Euphoria is your sesnsation, when rapid change in thc levels. A person sick with pain, poisoned by compound isolate medicine will seek right level..till saturation once you are ..full.you have achieved,what you can achieve. ...for me. I think for all. I used those last 6-8 weeks, to regain use of legs, relieve pain lock, then as 50-75 % drug panel was gone, I,felt good. The whole ‘go to zero’ thing occurred too. If not then, sue, when? If not,me, whom? Spines afu, poisoned by compounding, trained scientific observer, and the scuba tables are exactly what the 8ng/L driving under influence attempts to model. lol,get,themdata later.
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I remember Cajun telling me once that it took concentrates for him to get high when he was on his full regimen for cancer. When you're consuming over a gram of CCO a day you won't feel it the same way, providing you took the time to get there gradually.

Given the numerous side effects most drugs come with it doesn't surprise me that you felt better downing less than half what you started with. Are you completely free of the Pharma drugs yet Marc?

Can you explain the "go to zero" thing for me? :battingeyelashes:

LVMarc42 said:
There are enough people,in real,pain. Sue the nih.. fda data,and worse,test,methods are...retarded. Full,of,errors, omissions.stupid,stuff,no,engineer would allow,ever...they lied on almost,every entry for oxycodone....bastards,
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Life is all about learning to love unconditionally, and this requires a fine-tuned sense of forgiveness. What they did when they unleashed these drugs on an unsuspecting and trusting population, in their unending quest for more profits at any cost, makes forgiveness particularly challenging.

LVMarc42 said:
Limit, oil can out your butt, into,toilet.you see,oil floating. That’s saturation to me! 12 grams CCO in 12-18 weeks.. filled me,up,to,do,what I,did. That’s all I know. I’d never trust statistic from a study. I’d have to,see what the bastards tried to,do, how,the test was assembled,executed. And if clean then I might consider it.
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Ok, that's a saturation point I've yet to achieve. :laughtwo:

I don't trust studies or statistics either. Very few studies begin without a preconceived direction to predetermined results. Witness the waste of our federal funds to prove how dangerous cannabis is. You can build a study to create statistics to support anything you want.

I caution you.... begin to dig into one of these studies with the eye of a trained researcher and it'll make you angry, so find a creative way to transmute the anger to happiness. Your body is going to need lots of laughter and as little negative energy as you can limit to get back to the state of "normal" that will satisfy you. Don't clutter your healing energy with anger or frustration. The ECS runs best in joy mode. Make it your goal to default to joy.

Then, when you're feeling joyfully again, go back to looking at the lies they published.
 
dynamo1 said:
:thumb: Default to Joy,
that would make a nice T shirt logo:yahoo::Namaste:
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With a luscious cannabis leaf to accentuate our favorite method of getting into joy mode. :laughtwo:
 
QUESTIONS ABOUT DECARBED CANNABIS FOR MAKING OILS, TINCTURES, ETC.

Hello all: I have ordered a Nova decarb machine because I want to be able to make medicine that's been minimally cooked and processed, so this seemed like a very efficient and stable means of maintaining proper temp to decarb cannabis. This machine will decarb whole bud so that there's no damage to trichomes; no pre-grinding required. I can even decarb raw stuff in it.

I have seen recipes for medicines with pre-decarbed herb so that no further cooking is required, thus preserving higher amounts of terpenes and other good stuff. I mean, it makes perfect sense to me that the less "disturbance" that occurs with the whole medicine, the better the quality and the stronger the synergy.

Any thoughts?

ps: just found the thread on "Decoding the holy grail," so I'm busily skimming it.
 
alltatup said:
QUESTIONS ABOUT DECARBED CANNABIS FOR MAKING OILS, TINCTURES, ETC.

Hello all: I have ordered a Nova decarb machine because I want to be able to make medicine that's been minimally cooked and processed, so this seemed like a very efficient and stable means of maintaining proper temp to decarb cannabis. This machine will decarb whole bud so that there's no damage to trichomes; no pre-grinding required. I can even decarb raw stuff in it.

I have seen recipes for medicines with pre-decarbed herb so that no further cooking is required, thus preserving higher amounts of terpenes and other good stuff. I mean, it makes perfect sense to me that the less "disturbance" that occurs with the whole medicine, the better the quality and the stronger the synergy.

Any thoughts?

ps: just found the thread on "Decoding the holy grail," so I'm busily skimming it.
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I'll be honest and admit that my favorite oils are the fresh harvest and the 36-Hr oils. The 36-Hr is closed up in a jar and cooked at the lowest setting in the oven, shaking vigoriously everytime you think of it. Nothing is lost. I keep all my mash that wasn't used in baking already for snacking (add a bit of stevia and keep in the fridge, wash down with your favorite beverage). I lose absolutely nothing.

The fresh harvest oil makes it possible to get the maximum healing potential from an oil, and we're working on drying techniques that preserve the terpenes and flavonoids, making dried buds as powerful as fresh, and opening more options.

So I'd have to amend the FHO statement to include oils infused with buds either flash-dried in a humidifier or dried low and slo in the fridge, which brings me straight back to the 36-Hr oil. That's become my standard process now that I have good buds. It takes careful scheduling to keep from running out, but it lets me make small amounts at a time, my preferred choice. Most of my oil batches are less than 2 cups of carrier oil.
 
SweetSue said:
I'll be honest and admit that my favorite oils are the fresh harvest and the 36-Hr oils. The 36-Hr is closed up in a jar and cooked at the lowest setting in the oven, shaking vigoriously everytime you think of it. Nothing is lost. I keep all my mash that wasn't used in baking already for snacking (add a bit of stevia and keep in the fridge, wash down with your favorite beverage). I lose absolutely nothing.

The fresh harvest oil makes it possible to get the maximum healing potential from an oil, and we're working on drying techniques that preserve the terpenes and flavonoids, making dried buds as powerful as fresh, and opening more options.

So I'd have to amend the FHO statement to include oils infused with buds either flash-dried in a humidifier or dried low and slo in the fridge, which brings me straight back to the 36-Hr oil. That's become my standard process now that I have good buds. It takes careful scheduling to keep from running out, but it lets me make small amounts at a time, my preferred choice. Most of my oil batches are less than 2 cups of carrier oil.
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Sue, for the 36 hour oil, do you think it gets totally decarbed? I know that Decarboxylation is a matter of time and temp, but at 170 (or in my case 140°F) is that a high enough temp? Or does the length of time make up for the lower temp? Have you ever tried reheating it to 240° or so to see if it further decarbs? Thx.
 
A repost from an intriguing new thread on pediatric therapies.

Sister Vee said:
CAN CANNABIS CURE CHILDREN? ~ IN HONOUR OF PROFESSOR ESTER FRIDE


While most of the world is rushing around playing legal games about how to deliver Cannabis to the people instead of simply giving it back to us…the biggest question on my mind is What about the children?

So now we know and have known since the early 1990’s that all humans and animals excepting the bee have a physiological system known as The Endocannabinoid System (EC System) which exists because the human body produces a substance which mimics THC.

While it is true that many plants produce Cannabinoids only Cannabis produces THC and so the system got its name from the Cannabis Plant. Humans have been using Cannabis medicinally for over 5000 years, this is a scientific fact. The plant is referred to in the Bible and it is now also a scientific fact that Kaneh-bosm, one of the ingredients in the Holy Anointing Oil is in fact Cannabis. We have had proof of this since 1936.

HOW DOES CANNABIS AFFECT CHILDREN?

Since the discovery of the presence of Endocannabinoids Anandamide and (2-AG) in human breast milk scientists now know that the role of the EC System begins at gestation and continues throughout pregnancy and beyond to ensure overall optimal health of the living human being.

THE UNBORN BABY

If you look at previous papers ii have written extensively about the functions of The EC System.

So besides homeostasis, neurogenesis, pain and inflammation, hormone absorption, regulation of metabolism and autophagy, there is ONE very important function of the EC System which is critical to the survival of the developing organism.

Professor Ester Fride Ph.D passed away 1 January 2010 age 56. She was the Dutch born Israeli scientist who worked with Professor Mechoulam in the 1990’s and became known for revealing the fact that a new born mammal cannot suckle and survive without a functional EC System.

She was the Chairperson at the Department of Behavioural Sciences and the Department of Molecular Biology at The College of Judea and Samaria in Ariel Israel and in 2000 she was given her own lab and began researching the role of the EC System in the nursing process.

She co-authored over 40 research papers where she released research which suggested a very promising future for the study of Cannabinoids in paediatric medicine and indeed we are seeing miracles on this level each day as more and more Cannabis Medicine research is revealed especially in respect of cancers, epilepsy, autism and other neurological conditions.

Her work proved that in Infants Growth Failure due to the inability to take up food was attributed to an under developed EC System and in particular the inactivation of the CB1 receptor which we now know directly affects the suckling process.

In mice studies at birth there is a high concentration of the Endocannabinoid 2-AG in the brain which stimulates the suckling response.

Once the baby starts suckling, the Anandamide and 2-AG from the maternal milk automatically increases these levels in the brain which in turn stimulates feeding.

The fact that CB1 receptors are present in the white matter regions of the pre and post natal nervous system strongly suggests that these receptors play a specific role in early brain development. Professor Fride’s studies also revealed that Anandamide displayed a neuro-protective role on the post natal brain.

It was Professor Fride’s theory that blockages of CB1 receptors contributes to “infant failure to thrive” conditions because of the failure to stimulate the suckling response in infants.

She strongly advocated the use of Cannabinoids in paediatric practise and the net is now filled with medical papers proving that Cannabis cures children with no side effects.

POST NATAL DEVELOPMENT

Professor Fride’s work also indicated that developmental observations proved that CB1 receptors develop very slowly during the post natal stage which ties up with the observations that small children appear to be insensitive to the psychoactive effects of controlled Cannabinoid treatment.

By controlled Cannabinoid treatment ii am referring to the assistance of a recognized Cannabis Medicine Practitioner or a Rastafari Bush Doctor or a conventional medical doctor who is skilled in the administration of Cannabis Medicine. Unfortunately they do not teach medical students about the EC System in university so as ii always say medical doctors will end up learning about Cannabis Medicine from their patients.

Too often ii have witnessed parents ‘over dosing’ their young children and the guilt is a tremendous load to carry and can greatly disadvantage the child’s treatment which usually stops at this point. So please it is important to get proper advice on how to administer Cannabis Medicine treatments.

Because of Professor Fride’s revelation we now know that this gradual increase of Anandamide and the CB1 receptors is also accompanied by a gradual maturation in the response to the psychoactive properties of THC.

In studies of post natal mice a gradual increase in the density of CB1 receptors was recorded in the brain.

This is valuable medical research because it has proven that small children may benefit from Cannabis Medicine without any harsh side effects.

In numerous research studies at Hebrew University in Israel children between the ages of 3 and 13 undergoing chemotherapy were administered high THC doses, approximately 0.64 mg/kg per treatment. Some of these children were given doses for long periods of time up to 114 treatments based on 4 treatments per 24 hour period. The anti-emetic effects were also impressive with no real side effects at all.

In another of Professor Fride’s studies eight children between the ages of 3 and 14 years with severe neurological damage were treated with between 0.04 – 0.12 mg/kg per day.

Extensive improvements in behavior included reduced spasticity, improved dystonia (muscle movements), increased interest in surroundings and anti-epileptic activity, all with no notable adverse effects.

This same study included the case of an 11 year old girl who after a motor accident suffered a spinal contusion with total paraplegia and a frontal skull fracture. She suffered from posttraumatic stress disorder, mood disturbances and lack of appetite.

The daily THC dose administered improved appetite and mood as well as spasticity in sick children across the board of conditions.

Positive neurological benefits were achieved in the absence of any severe psychological effects.

Over the past twenty years we have seen really excellent clinical results of Cannabis treatment in small children and young adults especially in paediatric oncology cases and in cases where children have been suffering with serious neurological conditions and brain trauma such as epilepsy.

But it is really interesting to note that only a temporary presence of CB1 receptors are expressed during development but not during adulthood in certain regions of the brain such as the Corpus Callosum and the anterior commissure which connects neuronal pathways between the left and right hemispheres of the brain.

We believe from the Professor Fride’s research that this is exactly why we are having such success with healing small children. Research into this field of medicine will never end.

Furthermore it is important to realise that these expressions were noted between gestational day 21 and post natal day 5 which clearly proves the role for Cannabinoids in brain development.

What about Human studies?

In her human studies the findings were spectacularly similar to mice studies and CB1 receptors were identified in the human embryo at week 14 of gestation.

In the 20th week of gestation in the human embryo a selective (lesser) expression of CB1 receptors was identified in the hippocampus compared with a much wider expression in the adult human brain.

An advanced increase in the concentration of CB1 receptors was found in the frontal cortex, hippocampus, basal ganglia and cerebellum between the foetal period and adulthood proving that CB1 receptors are functionally active at all stages of human development.

So in other words the CB1 receptors concentration in these parts of the brain increased progressively with development.

The most important finding is that the psychoactive effects of Cannabinoid treatment is virtually absent or extremely reduced in children (controlled studies) and we believe that this is due to the lower concentrations of CB1 receptors at younger ages.

Professor Fride passed away on New Year Day 2010 after being diagnosed with lung cancer in 2008. It seems strange to me that such a healthy athletic minded person who understood the EC System and the benefits of Cannabinoids would not actually use Cannabis Medicine to heal herself.

Never in my life have ii ever heard of Cannabis not healing lung cancer and even ii have had to treat lung cancer patients who had been given three days to live by their medical practitioners and survived. It is also strange that Wikipedia does not have any history loaded on the net about the Professor.

Over the years ii could not help but notice how natural healers and truth revealers seem to mysteriously disappear, pass away or are involved in accidents and so…ii myself have had to endure numerous death threats over the years. So truly ii believe that something is not right with her passing especially since she was heavily involved in working with the synthetic THC product called Rimonabant which is a highly controversial product which induces suicidal thoughts and has been recalled many times over the years…

And so ii dedicate this work to the honour of Professor Ester Fride and we give thanks for her outstanding works in Paediatric Cannabis Medicine.



SOURCES:

Xhosa Styles!
The Late Professor Ester Fride
Hebrew University
cannabis medicine
www.mychronicrelief.com
Sula Benet
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