SweetSue's Cannabis Oil Study Hall

[HashGirl]

It certainly would be a wonder to have, wouldn't it? I was thinking along the same line myself. With the addition of the tCheck you have the ability to determine the THC values of the oils. Think of how valuable that would be. No more guessing, and then, once you know how potent the oil's coming out you can improve and increase medicinal values.

I love the look of it too. The fact that I could make as little as five ounces of oil is a super benefit for a home grower, but to be honest, it's the easy cleanup that caught most of my interest. My kitchen's always a mess when I'm finished pressing the oils out.

You obviously cook like me then! I always make a mess, too but I think I'm getting better at it.

I'm in for getting these fun new oil-making accessories. Maybe we could get a group discount. I wonder if the mod I told about the tester has looked into whether they'd like to be one of our sponsors.

 

[SweetSue]

I have a couple more questions if I may...... I am currently making my own "big bombs", and i am wondering if my method will still be effective even though i do not mix. I make enough for a week at a time filling them with syringes by hand. I put in .3gr for my daytime doses and .4 for night dose. I then fill with two parts liquid sunflower lechithin and one part olive oil. My concern is whether that will work well enough. My other question... I am currently taking four doses a day, all anally. Since I am treating the prostate I fail to see the logic in oral dosing at one third the absorbtion rate. Is it effective to dose all anally ?

I'd like to get Kingston Rabbi's take on this, since he's the one who successfully used the protocol with suppositories. My sense is that you need to take advantage of every pathway to get cannabinoids you can. Every body is individual, and every system reacts individually to cannabis. We don't yet know enough about how the cannabinoids actually behave in the human body.

The small oral or sublingual dose that precedes the major dose is really a great way to get the system ready for the onslaught of cannabinoids. How much of the daily dose are you using for the oral part?

The biobombs are most effective if you mix the oils and lecithin and refrigerate at least overnight, if not the 24 hours Cajun recommended before you make the capsules. The cannabinoids in the CCO need time and opportunity to bond to the oil molecules to increase the bioavailability. The addition of the lecithin requires you to give it the time to encapsulate the cannabinoids and oil. These things can't happen if you don't mix first and regrigerate.

With your next batch I'd recommend you do the mixing. With this batch we're kinda hoping for the graces of the universe to kick in and let them work better than they should. We have the option to believe whatever we want, and I'd prefer the message your psyche is vibrating to the ECS be filled with hope rather than doubt.

The fact of the matter is cannabinoids kill cancer, with or without all these tricks we incorporate to improve the efficacy of this difficult-to-come-by medication. Use it with confidence and plan for an improved batch the next time.

 

[SweetSue]

I'm sorry sweet sue

I just went through a similar set of frustrating circumstances
My wife's boss asked if I'd help her mom who is too sick to take chemo and rad. That new commercial I don't know what it's named but they claim you live longer than if you took chemo? I think that what she's on

Asked if I'd go to the disp and pick up some Rick simp oil

I though I'll do better than that
I'll share some of what I have left

Also printed up 44 pages of MO's how to dose CCO

Long story short all day worried about how I'm gonna pull this off without effecting her job

All day and then I go for the drive and wait.
Hours later I'm at Taco Bell chilling and wondering
I get a text "her mom is waiting for he dr to call her back and tell her it's ok"

I left with my head shakin back and forth NO WaY this will happen

Anyways fig I'd share that

 

[Canyon]

I'm sorry sweet sue

I just went through a similar set of frustrating circumstances
My wife's boss asked if I'd help her mom who is too sick to take chemo and rad. That new commercial I don't know what it's named but they claim you live longer than if you took chemo? I think that what she's on

Asked if I'd go to the disp and pick up some Rick simp oil

I though I'll do better than that
I'll share some of what I have left

Also printed up 44 pages of MO's how to dose CCO

Long story short all day worried about how I'm gonna pull this off without effecting her job

All day and then I go for the drive and wait.
Hours later I'm at Taco Bell chilling and wondering
I get a text "her mom is waiting for he dr to call her back and tell her it's ok"

I left with my head shakin back and forth NO WaY this will happen

Anyways fig I'd share that

You don't always make your point when you are expressing it. Time to reflect on what was said can change someones views. You can only plant the seeds. So plant lots of seeds.

Best

 

[medmanmike]

To members of the Study Hall:

There have been a number of posts lately where members have been very open and honest about their medical conditions. Like most if not all of us, we are looking for additional methods of treating our debilitating conditions through the use of cannabis.

My medical issues (non life threatening) pale in comparison to what many of you are going through. I'm amazed and touched by your personal journeys and the effort put forth to take control of one's life. We all know that Western medicine is not always the answer and in many cases the treatment is worse then the disease! Whether it's organized religion (no offense to anyone-I'm totally soured on organized religion) or medicine, many people put their lives (or salvation) in the hands of others. Deep down we all know what's best for ourselves, but society has conditioned us to "accept" what we're told by people in positions of authority. Often, their beliefs don't match our own.

Consider what many posters have said about "older" family and/or friends who will not even discus the possibilities of cannabis let alone consider using it! Many of them would rather suffer in pain, etc. then go against what they've been taught to believe.

Again, I am in awe of those who have have decided to take charge of their lives and do what they believe is best for themselves.

I came across an article in the spring issue of the AARP magazine - aarp.org. The lead article is about the actor Michael J. Fox and his battle with Parkinson's. There was one passage (below) that upon reading it, made me immediately think of some of the posters on this site.

Fox's comments are very reflective of what many of you have said on this forum. One comment in paricular, from the head of communication at the Fox Foundation really struck me: "The people living with the disease are the experts." WE are all becoming EXPERTS in the use of cannabis, due in part to this forum (thank you Sue!)

"Another motivator was the feedback generated by Fox's public embrace of his condition – a kind of self-amplifying echo chamber of positivity that became a blueprint for the success of his foundation.

"A funny thing happened," Fox recalls. "Doctors reached out to me. And I reached out to doctors. More important, the Parkinson's community reached out to me, and I immediately felt better, just empowered, knowing there were people who understood what I was going through. It was also empowering for physicians, specialists and researchers I began meeting all over the country. They'd never had a patient coming in and saying, 'Hey, what's in your petri dish?' They'd go, ' You really wanna know?' Hell, yeah, I wanted to know! 'Then I'm gonna show you!' And so we'd be standing there, both thinking, The stuff in that dish could affect me. There was a primal satisfaction to that."

"His message is so simple, it gets forgotten: The people living with the disease are the experts," says Holly Teichholtz, head of communications at the Fox Foundation."

 

[Danolo]

For all of you who struggle with helping loved ones heal, I wish you well and hope you find balance...

Had I known about cannabis, as a healing agent, 50 years ago, I could have saved my mother from her pain. And My Dad's cancer. And so on, and so on...

Now, today, my wife and I focus our healing energy on each other. And I gotta tell you, it works very well!

For the past few months, since her Rheumatoid Arthritis started to interfere in her life in a major way, she has been using Bio Bombs. And, they are HEALING her!

At first we observed the pain relief, and extended sleep periods, and then later, reduction of inflammation, and now increased mobility.

She has hardly been outside all winter. Today, she went on a trip that included lots of walking and stairs. Real progress.

So, we both arrived home about the same time, and once we settled in, I started to prepare vaporiser... and she stopped me and said, "Here, try this".. and she laid a big fat bud in front of me.

She went to a dispensary! She is definitely feel better...

And now, we both are...

 

[Moe Ugly]

A SHORT HISTORY OF MEDICINE: "Doctor, I have an ear ache."

2000 B.C. - "Here, eat this root."
1000 B.C. - "That root is heathen, say this prayer."
1850 A.D. - "That prayer is superstition, drink this potion."
1940 A.D. - "That potion is snake oil, swallow this pill."
1985 A.D. - "That pill is ineffective, take this antibiotic."
2000 A.D. - "That antibiotic is artificial. Here, eat this root!"

Not sure if this was posted here before but I still get a kick out f it.

 

[SweetSue]

A SHORT HISTORY OF MEDICINE: "Doctor, I have an ear ache."

2000 B.C. - "Here, eat this root."
1000 B.C. - "That root is heathen, say this prayer."
1850 A.D. - "That prayer is superstition, drink this potion."
1940 A.D. - "That potion is snake oil, swallow this pill."
1985 A.D. - "That pill is ineffective, take this antibiotic."
2000 A.D. - "That antibiotic is artificial. Here, eat this root!"

Not sure if this was posted here before but I still get a kick out f it.

Oh my gosh, I love this! The irony, eh?

Mike, thank you for the share. I sometimes feel disconcerted that the medical community is so far behind us in cannabinoid therapies, and there isn't all that much acceptance in the official medical community for the science we all do out here in the trenches. I'm so thankful we live in a digital age where we can pull off this level of interaction and exploration.

The world will never be the same again.

And Danolo..... That woman of yours keeps being more and more amazing. Hehe! Big hug for both of you.

 

[dmarek413]

I have met a guy who is going to make me a batch of oil. He seems very smart and dedicated to healing with cannabis and herbs. But, his process differs from all the info i have read on here and other sites. He believes that the whole plant has medicinal value so he uses the whole plant. Also, he thinks the double wash is too quick, and leaves too much medicine on the plant so he soaks until the stalks are white. I really dont want to question his expertise but i also want the best oil I can get. Does anyone have any comments as to why he could be making the oil wrong for treating cancer ? Thank you so much in advance !

 

[Dave Groomer]

Whole plant is great, but a long soak will pull all the chlorophyll. The quick washes are to avoid that. Moto and Cajun who wrote the thread here of making CCO tried many different methods with lab testing and found that this was the best route for those of us that don't have access to high end lab machines like vacuum chambers and such. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Oldbear]

Dave do you know if they tested for cannabinoid content before and after the quick wash process?

 

[Dave Groomer]

Dave do you know if they tested for cannabinoid content before and after the quick wash process?

The story is somewhere in the pages of 420. As I remember, there was a large harvest and they used the same bud for all tests, just varied how they did things and for how long. They had the oil tested with each run and found that the quick wash technique in the thread gave the best results for the average user.

 

[SweetSue]

Dave do you know if they tested for cannabinoid content before and after the quick wash process?

I'd ask CCOiler. I'm certain he'd know where it was in those pages.

If you find out, share it with us please.

 

[dmarek413]

I'd like to get Kingston Rabbi's take on this, since he's the one who successfully used the protocol with suppositories. My sense is that you need to take advantage of every pathway to get cannabinoids you can. Every body is individual, and every system reacts individually to cannabis. We don't yet know enough about how the cannabinoids actually behave in the human body.

The small oral or sublingual dose that precedes the major dose is really a great way to get the system ready for the onslaught of cannabinoids. How much of the daily dose are you using for the oral part?

The biobombs are most effective if you mix the oils and lecithin and refrigerate at least overnight, if not the 24 hours Cajun recommended before you make the capsules. The cannabinoids in the CCO need time and opportunity to bond to the oil molecules to increase the bioavailability. The addition of the lecithin requires you to give it the time to encapsulate the cannabinoids and oil. These things can't happen if you don't mix first and regrigerate.

With your next batch I'd recommend you do the mixing. With this batch we're kinda hoping for the graces of the universe to kick in and let them work better than they should. We have the option to believe whatever we want, and I'd prefer the message your psyche is vibrating to the ECS be filled with hope rather than doubt.

The fact of the matter is cannabinoids kill cancer, with or without all these tricks we incorporate to improve the efficacy of this difficult-to-come-by medication. Use it with confidence and plan for an improved batch the next time.

Sue, I am pretty excited. I just made my first batch of bio bomb mix and it is currently chilling in the fridge overnight. I can't remember, Is this mix going to firm up so much it will not draw into a syringe for dosing capsules ? I read so much i cant keep it all straight. Is this where adding a couple drops of vodka and stirring will thin it for filling caps ? No heat after the fridge right ?I can't stress enough how much I appreciate all the help !!!

 

[Danolo]

Demarek.. what I do at this point is rest my container of cold oil in a shallow dish with warm water... just enough to help it run...

I think that's the way to do that, but we can wait for Sue, the expert, just to be sure..

We are all learning here.

 

[CCOiler]

A SHORT HISTORY OF MEDICINE: "Doctor, I have an ear ache."

2000 B.C. - "Here, eat this root."
1000 B.C. - "That root is heathen, say this prayer."
1850 A.D. - "That prayer is superstition, drink this potion."
1940 A.D. - "That potion is snake oil, swallow this pill."
1985 A.D. - "That pill is ineffective, take this antibiotic."
2000 A.D. - "That antibiotic is artificial. Here, eat this root!"

Not sure if this was posted here before but I still get a kick out f it.

Moe reps for you

 

[CCOiler]

I'd ask CCOiler. I'm certain he'd know where it was in those pages.

If you find out, share it with us please.

It has been a couple of years now Sue. I'll check my notes (this will take sometime)



I read through my notes on the 2 threads and didn't find anything...sorry.

 

[dmarek413]

Demarek.. what I do at this point is rest my container of cold oil in a shallow dish with warm water... just enough to help it run...

I think that's the way to do that, but we can wait for Sue, the expert, just to be sure..

We are all learning here.

Thanks Danolo,seems reasonable. I just hope i made the mix ratio correct. I went 1gr.cco-5gr. olive oil-10gr. lechithin.

 

[Danolo]

Thanks Danolo,seems reasonable. I just hope i made the mix ratio correct. I went 1gr.cco-5gr. olive oil-10gr. lechithin.

We really need Sue, or another expert to join this... I don't use anywhere near that high a ratio of lecithin.
My last batch was 3 gms CCO, 12 gms olive oil, and 3 gms liquid lecithin. That gave us about 20 capsules.

 

[dmarek413]

We really need Sue, or another expert to join this... I don't use anywhere near that high a ratio of lecithin.
My last batch was 3 gms CCO, 12 gms olive oil, and 3 gms liquid lecithin. That gave us about 20 capsules.

I actually have the recipe in my notes from my first day of research on this site.It came from the base treatment regimen thread. 51 #762 I could have it all wrong though. Sometimes all this info has my head spinning.