SweetSue's Cannabis Oil Study Hall

[gudyul]

Sue , Do You Believe .... in Angels ? Since meeting all You , I Do !!!! Peace PS: I trust St. Joe , Vitamin E is just fine !!

I am here lurking n j*&^%$#g , pulling my hose and pumping oil all day. poor sweet miserable creatures! A horse , a horse, my kingdom for a horse! fair is foul where foul is fair. methinks the bull deer jumped the heifer calf. nay forsooth! ADRIENE! free fallin! free for all! all for one and one for all! one is the loneliest number! It's catchy.dang. ding dang doodle all the day.sup?

 

[SweetSue]

Hello study hall patrons.

I wanted to share that Ive just finished a 6 week schedule to eliminate opiates. It was a slow reduction scheme, less every week, from 400mg day to 0 (zero, zip, nada, nothing). It wasn't difficult at this slow pace and because it was tramadol, there was no dependency or withdrawal problems that I understand can happen with regular opiates.

Im continuing with a cannabis program that is more cbd than thc. Ill update to share current doseage plan in a bit.

Pain wise, I feel no different - at least yet - than when I was taking this every day. I dont feel any worse, and will continue to seek out the perfect cannabis dose plan for me.

Sue fyi ive added your begin the day methods to my routine. So every 3 hours there is a body scan, hydration, nutrition, flush and 'greet the (rest of the) day' do over. Too soon to tell how much it helps, but it does, takes no time and costs nothing.

You go, buckaroo! That's two in the group this week kicked opioids. Hizzy just worked his way off God-only-knows-what. I was more concerned with being there for him than what he was coming off, but it was nasty. You guys are the Warriors.

I'll be interested to hear how the meds ratios go. I understand the desire to get more CBD in for inflammation, but it's the THC that's hitting the pain from the receptor level. No unnecessary suffering, are we agreed?

I'll add your name to the growing list of lab rats changing their lives for the better with deliberate waking. I'm glad to hear you started, and I see you naturally fell into the rhythm I did. Lol! I stop periodically throughout the day and do a joyful whoop that I could feel this happy this consistently. I've had some serious events attempt to get me to feel bad, and it just ain't happenin'.

We can't quantify any of this - yet - but I know in my heart that this is a powerful tool for getting the ECS stronger and more focused.

 

[SweetSue]

And on that happy note I bid you all goodnight. More fun tomorrow.

 

[gudyul]

yeh tramadol is wicked shit, easy to get and nasty hangovers . took it for two years for sciatica but in the end it was a long vacation in the warm pool south of Pahoa and some good pako that healed the chronic neurologic pain associated with sciatica. And some old school anti depressants which I cannot remember the name. I think a good strong topical canna oil would also help. go all in and do a full body rub, sleep three days and arise from the dead reborn!

 

[walleye]

Gudyul wassup ! Paco here !!!! Where's My dam coffee !!!! Highlander ! Good rest' lather rinse rinse dress ! Paco

 

[Oldbear]

I'll be interested to hear how the meds ratios go. I understand the desire to get more CBD in for inflammation, but it's the THC that's hitting the pain from the receptor level. No unnecessary suffering, are we agreed?

I'll add your name to the growing list of lab rats changing their lives for the better with deliberate waking. I'm glad to hear you started, and I see you naturally fell into the rhythm I did. Lol! I stop periodically throughout the day and do a joyful whoop that I could feel this happy this consistently. I've had some serious events attempt to get me to feel bad, and it just ain't happenin'.

We can't quantify any of this - yet - but I know in my heart that this is a powerful tool for getting the ECS stronger and more focused.

The thc dose and pain mitigation solution remains elusive for me. I have yet to find a dose that provides any significant pain relief. But will keep experimenting. Im hoping the low / no sugar plan helps.

 

[SweetSue]

The thc dose and pain mitigation solution remains elusive for me. I have yet to find a dose that provides any significant pain relief. But will keep experimenting. Im hoping the low / no sugar plan helps.

Have you looked over the thread on supporting the ECS? I don't know why, but what flashed across my mind was the possibility that you might be reacting to the gluten. I've been considering how this fits, and I believe it may be coupled to the fact that so much of our wheat is GMO, and it's all through the food supply. If that's the case, then most of us have or have had Roundup in our systems, to some extent. When the members of their own board won't eat the products grown using Monsanto genetically modified seed, maybe we shouldn't either???

Have you ever tried going gluten-free to see what it does for your pain levels?

I can sympathize with pain, to some extent, but to be honest, I have so little personal experience with any type of chronic pain that some of the details of the experience evade me. But I have been listening to the voices as I take my courses, and a surprising number of professionals in the cannabis field have gone gluten-free and seen dramatic improvement to sustained well-being and a reduction in inflammatory pain.

 

[SL2222]

Hi Sarah yes please share with whomever.

Ive been wanting to ask how it goes for you regarding the uncomfortable feels with thc?

Hope all is well.

Also...

I wanted to share with all that Ive noticed something interesting for myself. There is a direct relationship between feeling too buzzy, frantic, uncomfortable with thc and how much sugar - particularly processed/refined sugars - Ive consumed in the last 24 hours or so.

It was by accident really. I was very comfortable on a higher thc day (for me) then I had a bowl of ice cream and some maple syrup for extra junk calories. It was a few minutes and all hell broke loose re the too much thc for me symptoms as above.

The dry mouth - actually more like desert mouth - kicked in too which I think is always an ECS driven action to encourage immediate hydration to flush the system. Drinking tea, coffee, alcohol, sodas all diuretics contributing to dehydration.

Ive experimented enough that I can not only make it happen but I can prevent it by co-managing both sugar and thc intake plus the ongoing hydration. Lower sugar for higher thc - win win.

So current agenda is to substantially reduce the sugars. Im hoping that helps with ongoing pain and inflammation.

You know what?!!! I was having the SAME thoughts when I was taking the THC. Exactly the same. It was the holidays, so sugar was more prevalent than it had ever been, but I very much thought I noticed a correlation between extra (processed) sugar that day and feeling worse. But I wasn't on it long enough to really test that out by the time I noticed.

However, I've heard many times that eating sugar depletes magnesium, and magnesium soothes the feelings from THC.... The connections are there, I just don't see them clearly yet.

I'm doing well, but I haven't tried adding the THC in yet. I'm still taking my CBD oil, diluted. I've increased from a dilution of 1/10 to 1/5, 3 drops per day. I'm about to mix my next batch today, and I'm not ready to increase the concentration yet. I'm considering diluting more again and taking more often. I'm just not sure. Sue is encouraging me to do start capsules. I simply haven't done it yet, as my batch was lasting me a loooong time.

Here's the interesting thing - I'm feeling MAJOR depression. Different from negativity, and sadness, and whatever. Just an underlying (overreaching???) flatline. The first week was good, just mellow. 4 days ago, I had my first anxiety attack I've had since I started the CBD (because I took my old B12, which was much harsher, I guess). The CBD knocked it out when I took it, however, I noticed that when I got this anxiety, I got a spark back. LESS depressed and more motivated. It was an interesting revelation, and I didn't like its implications.

I've had anxiety so long that I think my brain doesn't know what to do without that distraction. I've always judged my mom because she doesn't function, has NO DESIRE to function, unless there is chaos and drama needing her attention. Well, yeah. Apparently, I don't either, even if I create internal chaos and drama rather than wait for it to happen on the outside.

My whole life has been driven by fear... of something. The fears aren't gone, but the physical manifestation of it is being soothed... so now I need to learn new normals. I want be driven by JOY and FUN and CURIOSITY, not just fear of needing to get something done or not being good enough or something. I guess it was learned behavior, and I have to find the alternative.


If it helps you OldBear - digestive enzymes, good probiotics, cinnamon and even turmeric supposedly help the body deal with the sugar you do eat. All are also good anti-inflammatories and potentially good for pain. The enzymes helped me with pain a lot when I could take enough of them in the past. I think the best turmeric is from The Synergy Company.

Ok, that's my super long update. Hahaha!!

 

[SweetSue]

Here's the interesting thing - I'm feeling MAJOR depression. Different from negativity, and sadness, and whatever. Just an underlying (overreaching???) flatline. The first week was good, just mellow. 4 days ago, I had my first anxiety attack I've had since I started the CBD (because I took my old B12, which was much harsher, I guess). The CBD knocked it out when I took it, however, I noticed that when I got this anxiety, I got a spark back. LESS depressed and more motivated. It was an interesting revelation, and I didn't like its implications.

Have you shared this with your caregiver? It's his job to try and stay ahead of these things, but he can't read your mind long distance.

I'd think this implies that your body is ready for you to begin adding in some THC. It's the THC that will counter most of the depressive expression, while the CBD apparently works more with the anxiety issues, but they're a powerhouse couple together.

My daughter had the same thing happen early into the protocol. It was almost like her system was afraid to let the anxiety go, because that's what she'd been expressing for so long it had become comfortable in its own perverse way.

You're not at the even ratio I believe your caregiver may be coaxing you towards.

 

[Danolo]

Itchy healing, or?

My wife has been experiencing an itch at the sight of the rheumatoid arthritis bumps. The disease will raise bumps, on her wrists.

When she takes CCO she notices, as the pain diminishes, an itchy feeling around the bump.

I think I read somewhere here about someone else experiencing the same itchy symptom.

Can any of you remember who that was and where it was posted?

I want to find out if this is an indicator of healing, or what's it all about???

Thanks

 

[walleye]

High all , just letting Sweet Sue Know I STOPPED that train and alls' good, Did I mention Dianes' onocology doctor said vitamin E is ok/good , Just shows the false info one can carry like a sac of shit , thru life !!!! Peacediane is beginning contemplation !walleye55

 

[Canyon]

Itchy healing, or?

My wife has been experiencing an itch at the sight of the rheumatoid arthritis bumps. The disease will raise bumps, on her wrists.

When she takes CCO she notices, as the pain diminishes, an itchy feeling around the bump.

I think I read somewhere here about someone else experiencing the same itchy symptom.

Can any of you remember who that was and where it was posted?

I want to find out if this is an indicator of healing, or what's it all about???

Thanks

My body took an occupational and recreational beating over lot's of years. Most of those years I smoked at least some. In the last 30 I have progress from moderately heavy to very heavy. The point is, the life style did not beat me down like it did people I worked with. That holds true for all the stoners on the crews I worked with.

An interesting thing started happening when I became legal and upped my consumption. I have/had osteoarthritis in my thumb from mostly missed hammer blows to the point that I was in the process of setting up surgery when it started getting better. It was not fast. It has been about four years now but it has been a steady improvement. Recently I have added eatables and some oil capsles as well as rubbing oil on my hands. The joint is not the way it should be but the swelling is mostly gone and I am not dropping things when I try to pick them up.

My thoughts are, if the progression slows, stops or reverses, it's all a plus.

Best

 

[walleye]

Hi SweetSue,

I may have discovered the answer to this decarboxylation conundrum. It is not a question of leaving it in the oven for 90 minutes versus 30 minutes to maximize decarboxylation, but decarboxylating for 60 minutes rather than 30 minutes.
What ? !!!! just kidding !
Google this:

herb.co/2014/06/27/decarboxylate-your-weed-for-the-full-psychoactive-effect

So anyone conducting this test should do 30 minutes versus 60 minutes versus 90 minutes in the oven. To simplify, 30 versus 60 should do.

 

[Shawnee]

I'm of the same thinking on decarbing.....240 degrees for 40 minutes or so is good enough for me in everything I have read....besides...I have propane....cha ching.....no thanks to any longer.....and no need.....

 

[SL2222]

Have you shared this with your caregiver? It's his job to try and stay ahead of these things, but he can't read your mind long distance.

I'd think this implies that your body is ready for you to begin adding in some THC. It's the THC that will counter most of the depressive expression, while the CBD apparently works more with the anxiety issues, but they're a powerhouse couple together.

My daughter had the same thing happen early into the protocol. It was almost like her system was afraid to let the anxiety go, because that's what she'd been expressing for so long it had become comfortable in its own perverse way.

You're not at the even ratio I believe your caregiver may be coaxing you towards.

Ok. You've inspired me. I will mix the THC, as well, and see about starting that in the next couple of days (when I get brave enough )

I haven't shared with him yet. Mainly because he wanted me to start mixing in the THC right away and I defied him I've been debating even writing it out here - just hoping it would pass or I'd figure it out. There are personal things happening right now that I'm... wading through... so while I noticed it, I wasn't really thinking much of it. Until that anxiety hit, and I suddenly WANTED to do and think and function.

But I think you're right that it's time to start adding in the THC anyway. It's been almost 1 month, about the amount of time I wanted to give it anyway.

 

[SweetSue]

High all , just letting Sweet Sue Know I STOPPED that train and alls' good, Did I mention Dianes' onocology doctor said vitamin E is ok/good , Just shows the false info one can carry like a sac of shit , thru life !!!! Peacediane is beginning contemplation !walleye55

I'm glad it's slowing down for you walleye. It gets tiring after a while, I'm sure. You read faster than anyone else I've ever come across.

 

[Danolo]

Ok. You've inspired me. I will mix the THC, as well, and see about starting that in the next couple of days (when I get brave enough )

I haven't shared with him yet. Mainly because he wanted me to start mixing in the THC right away and I defied him I've been debating even writing it out here - just hoping it would pass or I'd figure it out. There are personal things happening right now that I'm... wading through... so while I noticed it, I wasn't really thinking much of it. Until that anxiety hit, and I suddenly WANTED to do and think and function.

But I think you're right that it's time to start adding in the THC anyway. It's been almost 1 month, about the amount of time I wanted to give it anyway.

Sara, I know that THC affects different people in different ways, sometimes, but I really feel you are safe using it. I would suggest starting small and slowly work up as it feels good.

Cannabis, and the THC has changed my life all for the better... and same goes for my wife.

Both of us were raised in a drug culture during the 60's and 70's and so we do have some experience with mood altering substance, and without a doubt cannabis is the ONLY one of all the different drugs that we trust whole heartedly.

I hope you enjoy your THC.... welcome to mellow...

 

[SweetSue]

Itchy healing, or?

My wife has been experiencing an itch at the sight of the rheumatoid arthritis bumps. The disease will raise bumps, on her wrists.

When she takes CCO she notices, as the pain diminishes, an itchy feeling around the bump.

I think I read somewhere here about someone else experiencing the same itchy symptom.

Can any of you remember who that was and where it was posted?

I want to find out if this is an indicator of healing, or what's it all about???

Thanks

How odd that you should mention this. When I started the deliberate waking experiment I noticed an uptick in the healing of the psoriasis that had begun to establish on my palms, right below the thumbs. Very subtle changes, that began with itching. I mean real itching. For a spell there I wanted to start to worry about it, but talked myself out that. Then they started to heal, and the itching stopped. An odd experience, to be sure, and one I can't really explain.

With deep pain, like Canyon speaks of, itching is one of the signs of healing in progress, at least that's the understanding I've always carried around. I'd think that would apply with RA.

 

[Danolo]

How odd that you should mention this. When I started the deliberate waking experiment I noticed an uptick in the healing of the psoriasis that had begun to establish on my palms, right below the thumbs. Very subtle changes, that began with itching. I mean real itching. For a spell there I wanted to start to worry about it, but talked myself out that. Then they started to heal, and the itching stopped. An odd experience, to be sure, and one I can't really explain.

With deep pain, like Canyon speaks of, itching is one of the signs of healing in progress, at least that's the understanding I've always carried around. I'd think that would apply with RA.

Yup, that's what I was thinking....that's encouraging and I'll pass that on to her.

Thanks

 

[walleye]

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