Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder - Big Bud - BubbleGum - Northern Lights

i had read about the diminishing light, im unsure to try it unless i see results from growers that have used it, i tried glr and fount it dont work as good as 20-4 on young plants but plants that are a few weeks old grew better under glr, i would try diminishing light it sounds logical to me as most plants outdoors never get 12 - 12 do they most never get the same as we give them using timers, in fact we give them more hours of light to grow quicker and 12-12 for flower to get some buds, but i wonder if plants get bigger outside due to not only the sun but the actual gradual change in lighting hours over a period of time,

you should try and get your temps around 78 to 80, mine gets towards 86 and mine seem fine now i over come the problem i just had, so its not got to be acurate but as long as the air is moving it should be ok.

great looking plants you got as well,
 
Thanks DP,
I'm definitely following this schedule through to the end, so you can check out what happens. I don't have a test group that is staying in 12/12 though, so not sure about what to compare it to. I do like the theory of mimicking nature, we're just pushing that along a little faster.

My temps are fine without the CFL's in there. I think for now I want more lumens even if it drives my temps up 8 degrees (from 80 to 88 high last night)

Thanks for stopping by!
 
no probs mate, good to keep checking in on these journals, im very interested in the results your going to get, might make my mind up on if i want to try it myself, we stick to these set schedules as we are told they are the best for the plants, but if knowbody tests these things then we never find out what works, but if the plants get this big and look so healthy outdoors then if we followed the natural lighting times then we may have bigger and better plants, i might try and check light cycles for certains time of the year where these plants grow, be interesting to compare this to what we think is best
 
SurfBuddy said:
Thanks DP,
I'm definitely following this schedule through to the end, so you can check out what happens. I don't have a test group that is staying in 12/12 though, so not sure about what to compare it to. I do like the theory of mimicking nature, we're just pushing that along a little faster.

My temps are fine without the CFL's in there. I think for now I want more lumens even if it drives my temps up 8 degrees (from 80 to 88 high last night)

Thanks for stopping by!
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That is very interesting. I am looking forward to see how your results are!!

For temperature. 86 is on the high side. I use a cap temperature shut down controller. I set it to 90 degrees. When I am away and if something happens. Like the ac goes out. I don't have to worry about killing my plants.

I think you are right in going with more light and temperatures higher.

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Closet Farmer said:
That is very interesting. I am looking forward to see how your results are!!

For temperature. 86 is on the high side. I use a cap temperature shut down controller. I set it to 90 degrees. When I am away and if something happens. Like the ac goes out. I don't have to worry about killing my plants.

I think you are right in going with more light and temperatures higher.

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That thing shuts your lights off? does it auto turn back on if the power comes back on? I guess that's kind of like a giant storm rolling in and passing. nightime hours stay the same or increase, which is what our plants use to flower anyway, so should be fine... hmmm
 
isnt their a chance of making the plants hermie, i mean if the temp goes up and down a lot this could cause the light to keep coming on and off, or does it shut the lights off and keep them off till the next on period
 
SurfBuddy said:
That thing shuts your lights off? does it auto turn back on if the power comes back on? I guess that's kind of like a giant storm rolling in and passing. nightime hours stay the same or increase, which is what our plants use to flower anyway, so should be fine... hmmm
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Yes, this device will shut off your lights until the temp comes back down to your acceptable range. Then it will turn the lights on again.

donpaul.p said:
isnt their a chance of making the plants hermie, i mean if the temp goes up and down a lot this could cause the light to keep coming on and off, or does it shut the lights off and keep them off till the next on period
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I am sure a plant could develop several problems if this device was constantly working. I have never had it reach the temperature to turn off yet. I just think of it as added insurance and peace of mind. Usually if something drastic like a temperature change. There has to be something wrong with the set up.
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that is more than true, or it takes is 1 fan to stop working and could destroy the whole crop,at least with one of them you have got some chance of salvaging it, im not sure on the lights going and off still, if it was really hot and the lights went off and came back on and it got hot again it would shit it off, but from what i remember it only causes problem if you have lights coming on during the dark period, so if that is actually the case then it would work very well, would be like you just said, like a bad day with the weather and storms make it cloudy and low light, you might be on to something with them, my temps dont go over 90 unless i got the grow room door totally closed with the lights on, as the temps outside are high 20's c and low 30's c then the temp soon rises when the lights are on so i have to keep the grow door open and fan running when the lights are on,
 
I think with my higher temps I'm going to make a DIY CO2 generator with a 2L to try to take advantage of it.
 
Why Not!! That sounds like a great idea!! Make lemonade out of lemons!! Use that high temp to your advantage!! Yes!!

I have been on the fence for a real co2 system for years. I guess I have been happy with my yields. Yet, if you can make great yeilds even better. Why not!! I am going to follow your grow. Look forward to how you make a CO2 system! Sounds Great! :goodjob:
 
Closet Farmer said:
Why Not!! That sounds like a great idea!! Make lemonade out of lemons!! Use that high temp to your advantage!! Yes!!

I have been on the fence for a real co2 system for years. I guess I have been happy with my yields. Yet, if you can make great yeilds even better. Why not!! I am going to follow your grow. Look forward to how you make a CO2 system! Sounds Great! :goodjob:
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Ha! Didn't even think about that, but I am a lemonade rather than a lemon kind o person. Will be putting the CO2 bottle together tomorrow-- nothing fancy, just something to get some fuel to the girls.


WhiteHouse said:
Sweet grow budd! Some of the nicest 2L plants i've seen, they actually look like plants! +reps
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Thanks for the comments and reps Whitehouse. Sometimes I'm not sure myself so it's good to hear it, especially from someone with a grow as fruitful as yours.
 
donpaul.p said:
that is more than true, or it takes is 1 fan to stop working and could destroy the whole crop,at least with one of them you have got some chance of salvaging it, im not sure on the lights going and off still, if it was really hot and the lights went off and came back on and it got hot again it would shit it off, but from what i remember it only causes problem if you have lights coming on during the dark period, so if that is actually the case then it would work very well, would be like you just said, like a bad day with the weather and storms make it cloudy and low light, you might be on to something with them, my temps dont go over 90 unless i got the grow room door totally closed with the lights on, as the temps outside are high 20's c and low 30's c then the temp soon rises when the lights are on so i have to keep the grow door open and fan running when the lights are on,
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Just a little note here. The optimal range for Cannabis is between 21 and 27. If you're getting into the 30's you really need to watch for heat stress. (30C is 86F - 33C is 91.4)
 
SurfBuddy said:
I think with my higher temps I'm going to make a DIY CO2 generator with a 2L to try to take advantage of it.
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EXCELLENT IDEA! Just make sure you have a good dehumidifier, because they will sweat in the sauna. It's good for them, but they do breathe a bit heavier, and with that, they transpire moisture as well.
 
jandre2k3 said:
EXCELLENT IDEA! Just make sure you have a good dehumidifier, because they will sweat in the sauna. It's good for them, but they do breathe a bit heavier, and with that, they transpire moisture as well.
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My RH is already high 55-75 so i need one for later in flower... also my tubs where the 2L's are sitting have water in them for the frozen bottles i stick in there to keep the res temps down. I know all that extra water is keeping my RH high, but I feel like the cool res temps are really helping the plants' growth.

can you reccommend a small dehumidifier? My tent is only 2x4 and i've got a 2x3 shelf jammed in there already and a tower fan. Not really sure where it would even go...

Or maybe I should just shitcan the idea of keeping the 2L res's cool.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
 
SurfBuddy said:
My RH is already high 55-75 so i need one for later in flower... also my tubs where the 2L's are sitting have water in them for the frozen bottles i stick in there to keep the res temps down. I know all that extra water is keeping my RH high, but I feel like the cool res temps are really helping the plants' growth.

can you reccommend a small dehumidifier? My tent is only 2x4 and i've got a 2x3 shelf jammed in there already and a tower fan. Not really sure where it would even go...

Or maybe I should just shitcan the idea of keeping the 2L res's cool.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
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Well..... you could duct the air to a ducted dehumidifier on the outside? They're $1000 +

Or maybe you could DIY an air exchange and duct system to a portable dehu... Those are about $200-$300

Alternatively, you could look into a product called Damp Rid Link CLICK HERE. I don't know how well it would work, though. Here's one made for overly humid rooms, like washrooms. Click HERE
 
jandre2k3 said:
Well..... you could duct the air to a ducted dehumidifier on the outside? They're $1000 +

Or maybe you could DIY an air exchange and duct system to a portable dehu... Those are about $200-$300

Alternatively, you could look into a product called Damp Rid Link CLICK HERE. I don't know how well it would work, though. Here's one made for overly humid rooms, like washrooms. Click HERE
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$1000+ is out of my range for now.
$2-300 is more tolerable but still painful.
I think I'll try some Damp rid, but a bigger one
If it works, I'll see how long it lasts and weigh that against a $200 one that would last indefinitely. I used to have silica gel to dry out my electronics... i wonder if that would work here too or if there is just too much moisture to make it feasible to re-use... I don't want to be recharging it daily.
 
My old ones were small- for a pelican case or a safe, but I just got a 2 pounder.
 
DIY co2 dispenser:

2L soda bottle
hot nail to make a hole in top
gorilla tape to seal the hole that i made too big by a fraction of a milimeter (not gonna open a new tube of alex just yet)
4 feet of silicone tubing

mix consists of
3 cups lukewarm 80deg water
1 cup sugar
1 packet active dry yeast

using a string to keep the 2L upright

output of 2L will be in front of oscilating fan to spread the love around

Photos to come when lights come on
 
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