Stunger's Organic Soil Stealth Balcony: Landrace Mulanje & Other Sativas

ChocolatChunk said:
Aye, she looks like she will go a long time. Very healthy looking plants with picture perfect stacking and the colas on that mango it must smell so good. What are your smelling I have a lip smacker and has a sherbert parent and strawberries and cream parent smells like both which is super sweet and sweet very sweet like a candy but sherberty with strawberries and cream. Might be a male it's pretty stretchy but I should have a girl in there too or just gotta get one going if I dont
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At this stage of flowering, I am certainly getting some lovely wafts of dank smells in the air depending on the wind. It is hard to be discerning because I just love all the smells of flowering cannabis! The Mango Sherbert is obviously the most advanced and the most aromatic. She has a sweet smell that I guess could be labelled fruit-like and called Mango, but she also has a bit of a gentle fuel smell too. I am expecting and hoping the droughting process will bump her potency performance up a notch!
 
Nice droughting going on here Stunger! Mmm the smells!
 
StoneOtter said:
Nice droughting going on here Stunger! Mmm the smells!
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Thanks Otter! This time of the season they put a smile on your face as you start to see the finish line. Altho the other 2 are a bit further away mind you.
 
Update - Mango Sherbert's 10th day, another survival drink - mostly pictures

Greetings 420 enthusiasts! Today is the 10th day of water restrictions for the Mango Sherbert. By the afternoon she was wilting quite badly again and after consulting the long range weather forecast, I found it could now be a week of all dry weather ahead. So I made the decision to give her a larger 'survival drink' of about 3L (3/4 gallon), with the aim of making her feel more comfortable, strengthened, and energised, but at the same time within 2 or 3 days she should be soon be back into drought stress again if no further rainfall continues.

Mango Sherbert at about 2:30pm on her 10th day

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After a 3L (3/4 gallon) survival drink around 5pm

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Trichomes

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The view from the side window

Only the Malawi/Ethiopian x Mulanje & Honduras/Panama x Purple Honduras are visible because they are taller than the Mango Sherbert at the far end.

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Thanks for dropping in, be well, and may your gardens be blooming! :ganjamon:
 
She took a nice drought Stunger! Recovery went well too!
 
Update - Pest control + Mango Sherbert's 11th day + trichomes

Greetings 420 enthusiasts!

Pest control

Yesterday I found 1 caterpillar on the Mango Sherbert. I also have seen signs of a few mites which I don't want to get out of hand. I am mindful that the 'droughting' that I am putting her thru will place a lot of stress on her, and I want to support her if any pests think about turning up. So this morning I mixed up some BT spray for any other caterpillars, as well as adding 4-5 drops of Rosemary essential oil as a mite deterrent, along with a few drops of Dr Bonner's Castille soap as a surfactant. This is the first time that I have tried using Rosemary oil, so I just wanted to try it a little and observe how it goes.

One fact and one observation, not sure if they are related. This year's grow, so far, is the cleanest for pests that I have had in these last few years, so far. My eyesight is also turning quite poor closeup from the sharp vision I had not long ago. But for this grow I did amend with more Neem meal and the dried shrimp/Chitin source that is also supposed to help 'prep' the plant for insects. Is it working, or is my eyesight just too bad to see them? But to be honest, when I look at the pics close up, the plants seem pretty good as far as pests go. Anyway, only 2 - 3 more weeks to go for the Mango Sherbert and then I can focus on the 2 sativas.

Mango Sherbert 11th day of water restrictions.

She looking worse for wear, from her run of 'drought', but after yesterday's 3L 'survival drink' she is looking quite perked up from where she has been. I think she is right where I want her. We have a potential good run of dry weather ahead so I can afford to let her 'drought out' again in the time still ahead. I was going to prune off all the leaves that are yellow and turning brown, but being mindful of DV8's thoughts around water and wounds on stressed plants, since I was about to spray her I decided to not touch them, for now.

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Mango Sherbert trichomes

She is getting very sticky, very solid hard sticky. Anyway, take a look.

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Well, that's the update folks, all the best and thanks for swinging by! :ganjamon:
 
Stunger said:
Update - Pest control + Mango Sherbert's 11th day + trichomes

Greetings 420 enthusiasts!

Pest control

Yesterday I found 1 caterpillar on the Mango Sherbert. I also have seen signs of a few mites which I don't want to get out of hand. I am mindful that the 'droughting' that I am putting her thru will place a lot of stress on her, and I want to support her if any pests think about turning up. So this morning I mixed up some BT spray for any other caterpillars, as well as adding 4-5 drops of Rosemary essential oil as a mite deterrent, along with a few drops of Dr Bonner's Castille soap as a surfactant. This is the first time that I have tried using Rosemary oil, so I just wanted to try it a little and observe how it goes.

One fact and one observation, not sure if they are related. This year's grow, so far, is the cleanest for pests that I have had in these last few years, so far. My eyesight is also turning quite poor closeup from the sharp vision I had not long ago. But for this grow I did amend with more Neem meal and the dried shrimp/Chitin source that is also supposed to help 'prep' the plant for insects. Is it working, or is my eyesight just too bad to see them? But to be honest, when I look at the pics close up, the plants seem pretty good as far as pests go. Anyway, only 2 - 3 more weeks to go for the Mango Sherbert and then I can focus on the 2 sativas.

Mango Sherbert 11th day of water restrictions.

She looking worse for wear, from her run of 'drought', but after yesterday's 3L 'survival drink' she is looking quite perked up from where she has been. I think she is right where I want her. We have a potential good run of dry weather ahead so I can afford to let her 'drought out' again in the time still ahead. I was going to prune off all the leaves that are yellow and turning brown, but being mindful of DV8's thoughts around water and wounds on stressed plants, since I was about to spray her I decided to not touch them, for now.

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Mango Sherbert trichomes

She is getting very sticky, very solid hard sticky. Anyway, take a look.

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Well, that's the update folks, all the best and thanks for swinging by! :ganjamon:
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It looks like they literally get frostier every day. Unreal. Nice.
 
Stunger said:
But for this grow I did amend with more Neem meal and the dried shrimp/Chitin source that is also supposed to help 'prep' the plant for insects. Is it working, or is my eyesight just too bad to see them? But to be honest, when I look at the pics close up, the plants seem pretty good as far as pests go.
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Hey Stunger,

That's an interesting observation you made. I've made the same.

A few months ago I was re-reading some of the Clackamas Coot stuff that @bobrown uses as well. Coot is an old time grower that has a mix he worked out with a bunch of growers including BB. The mix is essentially equal parts of CSPM, compost, and aeration with a bunch of amendments added including neem, karanja, and crustacean meals. The meals, as you say, are supposed to have systemic insecticidal properties according to Coot if I understand it correctly.

In any event, I added them to the mix I'm using about a month ago. I usually get thrips about a week or two after every time I up-pot, and I imagine they must come in with my worm castings. After adding the meals to my mix, I have not had any thrips on any of the plants using this new mix. I did have a seedling in my old mix that started showing evidence of them so I potted that one up a week ago using the new mix and now it is as healthy as the others.

I still don't believe my eyes and keep checking for the little bastards but so far none sighted so I'm starting to believe. So it's good to hear about your observations with the same stuff.

Maybe there really is something to it. That Coot is a real character, but knows his stuff. He brought his knowledge of being a baker and a nursery man to the table and has innovated many of the organic practices we use like seed sprout teas, and the use of malted barley.

Thanks for sharing your observations. Glad to hear your experience matches my own.

Of course BoBrown will tell the both of us he's been using it for years with similar results but it's still gratifying to see it in action in one's own garden.

Cheers. :high-five:
 
StoneOtter said:
She took a nice drought Stunger! Recovery went well too!
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Cheers Otter, yes she looks a bit happier now, but she's unaware I am about to play the drought dance music for her again!
Emeraldo said:
Stunning trichome pix Stunger!
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Thanks Emeraldo, seems a long time since starting this grow, but I'm finally at the trichome stage!
Jon said:
It looks like they literally get frostier every day. Unreal. Nice.
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Cheers Jon, I'm hoping the droughting will help them get even frostier!
Azimuth said:
Hey Stunger,

That's an interesting observation you made. I've made the same.

A few months ago I was re-reading some of the Clackamas Coot stuff that @bobrown uses as well. Coot is an old time grower that has a mix he worked out with a bunch of growers including BB. The mix is essentially equal parts of CSPM, compost, and aeration with a bunch of amendments added including neem, karanja, and crustacean meals. The meals, as you say, are supposed to have systemic insecticidal properties according to Coot if I understand it correctly.

In any event, I added them to the mix I'm using about a month ago. I usually get thrips about a week or two after every time I up-pot, and I imagine they must come in with my worm castings. After adding the meals to my mix, I have not had any thrips on any of the plants using this new mix. I did have a seedling in my old mix that started showing evidence of them so I potted that one up a week ago using the new mix and now it is as healthy as the others.

I still don't believe my eyes and keep checking for the little bastards but so far none sighted so I'm starting to believe. So it's good to hear about your observations with the same stuff.

Maybe there really is something to it. That Coot is a real character, but knows his stuff. He brought his knowledge of being a baker and a nursery man to the table and has innovated many of the organic practices we use like seed sprout teas, and the use of malted barley.

Thanks for sharing your observations. Glad to hear your experience matches my own.

Of course BoBrown will tell the both of us he's been using it for years with similar results but it's still gratifying to see it in action in one's own garden.

Cheers. :high-five:
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Thanks Azi, I think we're finding interest in many of the same things! I had the feeling some while ago that the plants seemed much cleaner of pests than previous grows I've done, I felt it was too early to celebrate, but now with the Mango Sherbert at a late stage to find she's still pretty clean, that does surprise me with not that long left to go now.
Cheers :passitleft:
 
Hi @Stunger -

Hey I was looking around at Ace Seeds, and I found access to many of the strains that are, if not what you're growing, something real close. They do a lot with landrace sativas. In fact, they have a few they claim are 100%. Feel free to tell me this has to be off journal if necessary, but is Ace the genetic origin of what you're growing in part?
 
Azimuth said:
Hey Stunger,

That's an interesting observation you made. I've made the same.

A few months ago I was re-reading some of the Clackamas Coot stuff that @bobrown uses as well. Coot is an old time grower that has a mix he worked out with a bunch of growers including BB. The mix is essentially equal parts of CSPM, compost, and aeration with a bunch of amendments added including neem, karanja, and crustacean meals. The meals, as you say, are supposed to have systemic insecticidal properties according to Coot if I understand it correctly.

In any event, I added them to the mix I'm using about a month ago. I usually get thrips about a week or two after every time I up-pot, and I imagine they must come in with my worm castings. After adding the meals to my mix, I have not had any thrips on any of the plants using this new mix. I did have a seedling in my old mix that started showing evidence of them so I potted that one up a week ago using the new mix and now it is as healthy as the others.

I still don't believe my eyes and keep checking for the little bastards but so far none sighted so I'm starting to believe. So it's good to hear about your observations with the same stuff.

Maybe there really is something to it. That Coot is a real character, but knows his stuff. He brought his knowledge of being a baker and a nursery man to the table and has innovated many of the organic practices we use like seed sprout teas, and the use of malted barley.

Thanks for sharing your observations. Glad to hear your experience matches my own.

Of course BoBrown will tell the both of us he's been using it for years with similar results but it's still gratifying to see it in action in one's own garden.

Cheers. :high-five:
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Hey @bobrown14 , can you weigh in with your thoughts on the meals added to the Coot's Mix, specifically regarding pest control? (I know they also offer some nutrient value, N I think).

My understanding is that, when added to an organic soil mix, the neem and karanja are taken up by the plant and work as systemic insecticides much like some people foliar them on to control bugs, and the crustacean/crab meal works to grow the microbes that produce chitinase which dissolves the chitin in the crab shells, but which is also found in the exoskeleton of things like thrips and mites. So that process is similar to the way a true soap works, dissolving the exoskelton and killing the bugs that way.

Do I have that essentially correct?

I tagged you on the original post, but then edited it and I think that invalidates the tag some how so you may not have seen it.
 
Popping in to check out the balcony, and ahhh, breathing room. :) Sorry for the early mulanji but happy seed findings! That mango is going through her paces, crazy to see the effect the rescue drinks have. Looks like you’re approaching a fine looking finish her my friend! :high-five:
 
stinker said:
Sticky looking Mango. Nice pictures.
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Cheers stinker! I find taking pictures is a battle when both the sun and subject are in front of you.
ZebraCat said:
The Honduras is looking great with some gnarly colas and the frosty Mango is droughting nicely. Will be interesting to see the difference that makes compared to last years Mango . Should be . The Malawi is starting to fill out. A very impressive balcony grow .
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Thanks Zeb!
Jon said:
Hi @Stunger -

Hey I was looking around at Ace Seeds, and I found access to many of the strains that are, if not what you're growing, something real close. They do a lot with landrace sativas. In fact, they have a few they claim are 100%. Feel free to tell me this has to be off journal if necessary, but is Ace the genetic origin of what you're growing in part?
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Cheers Jon, 2 of what I am growing use their Malawi/Ethiopian & Honduras/Panama.
Heavenly Hybrid said:
Popping in to check out the balcony, and ahhh, breathing room. :) Sorry for the early mulanji but happy seed findings! That mango is going through her paces, crazy to see the effect the rescue drinks have. Looks like you’re approaching a fine looking finish her my friend! :high-five:
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Thanks for dropping by HH, nice to see you!
StoneOtter said:
I imagine it to be a Tango
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Cheers Otter. She'd be sure to need her hydration levels bumped up for that! haha.
 
Update + mostly pictures + 12th day of Mango Sherbert's droughting phase

Greetings 420 enthusiasts!

The droughting/water restriction of the Mango Sherbert continues. I gave her a 'survival drink' 2 days ago and by this evening she was looking pretty limp and wilted once more. The point is, I don't want to punish her or kill her. I just want to encourage her to go into a 'drought survival mode', I feel she has got the message. So considering I will keep her going for at least another 2-3 weeks, I don't want to over do and bring on an early end. So this evening I gave her another survival drink of nearly 2L of water (half gallon). In spite on looking quite beaten up, she has perked up a little from the drink.

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Thanks for dropping by, keep well, and I hope you're enjoying your own home grown! :ganjamon:
 

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