Starting A Continuous Harvest Grow - Need Advice

[Sativa1970]

Got it. 3 card monty shuffling plants had me lost for a sec.

What female parts do you see other than pistols? Genetic predisposal and light cycle are the only ways to produce herm. Other than chemical induced pollen but that isn't really herm.

When I moved indoors here I planted 15 seeds to get 12 seedlings. One skunk got pulled so 11 left. 2 males pulled, down to 9. 2 were spindly and never filled in so down to 7. Sucked that more than 50% of the seeds didn't make it to flowering. But that culling meant the next grow was the better genetics only.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Got it. 3 card monty shuffling plants had me lost for a sec.

What female parts do you see other than pistols? Genetic predisposal and light cycle are the only ways to produce herm. Other than chemical induced pollen but that isn't really herm.

When I moved indoors here I planted 15 seeds to get 12 seedlings. One skunk got pulled so 11 left. 2 males pulled, down to 9. 2 were spindly and never filled in so down to 7. Sucked that more than 50% of the seeds didn't make it to flowering. But that culling meant the next grow was the better genetics only.

Oh yea it probably was confusing just reading thru lol I agree w you. It might hurt like hell rn but my next runs will be good genetics only!!! So it's all ok. I don't have anymore veg plants so all that's left is to clone the 4 new additions at day 4 or 5 of flower and repopulate the veg girls,I have 60 days to get next flower run ready to go. When I harvest I will flip new run same day. As the new plants in flower stretch out they will slowly reach same height as previous 2 plants that have been in flower for 7 days today. It really bummed me out but I'm back on track now. I am also considering making a veg room under my table ? Just put plastic and thick table cloth an boom !!! Veg room !! What you think sativa ? Lmk if you have some suggestions? You always on point ?

 

[4our8ighty0]

Oh yea it probably was confusing just reading thru lol I agree w you. It might hurt like hell rn but my next runs will be good genetics only!!! So it's all ok. I don't have anymore veg plants so all that's left is to clone the 4 new additions at day 4 or 5 of flower and repopulate the veg girls,I have 60 days to get next flower run ready to go. When I harvest I will flip new run same day. As the new plants in flower stretch out they will slowly reach same height as previous 2 plants that have been in flower for 7 days today. It really bummed me out but I'm back on track now. I am also considering making a veg room under my table ? Just put plastic and thick table cloth an boom !!! Veg room !! What you think sativa ? Lmk if you have some suggestions? You always on point ?

Oh I forgot to say,the female parts I saw was the tear drop shaped thing that the pistils come out of,I got fairly good at early sexing but its possible I just saw tear shape and assumed it was female. The plants that I just tossed all looked like herms cuz not all branches had the balls,so I believe it's just stressed induced herm. The female parts on the replacement plants are tear drop growths with 1 or 2 pistils growing out of them. They ALL showed female at some point so I stopped paying attention but it wouldn't have helped cuz they Hermed at flip to flower. They all looked like classic females,that's why I'm leaning towards stress herm,but I'm not 100% certain if the error was me or the genetics. I'm 90% sure they are just herms.

 

[4our8ighty0]

if its bag seed and its a proper male male plant save the pollen send it me lol. joking i would keep it and sacrifice one plant out of 4 females to give seeds , you could just polinate one branch if your careful. and see what the seed give you . maybe a real POT luck winner and a good smoke lol. i dont think the one i tried to turn worked its looking like its a female so far when i checked yesterday, i will check again today when the lights come on see if it looks like yours looks , as fare as i could tell yesterday it was white pistols forming . gona hve to give the silver thiosulfate a try next time. just designing my own rdwc system. that would keep the plant pots kept at the same water level all the time instead of the water level dropping as the plants drink the water.

If they were males,I would consider make ng seeds but idk 100% and it's too early for seeds lol when I get my keepers sorted I will def make me some seeds so I can carry them w me anywhere. I'm pretty sure this was just a stress herm,had 2 herm earlier in grow aswell. I just focusing on my harvest weight,after losing 4 of my big girls. I moved 4 veg girls in and will flower the 7th and 8th plant in my soon to be clone room so I can pad my harvest numbers,sift the 6 veg girls and find my keeper plants,then clone tf outta them. This issue had to happen,I just wish I hadn't gotten attached to the 4 I killed. I did recycle their names and I propped shorter girls up. So I have a even canopy,decent harvest and clean genetics to continue building my continuous harvest machine lol.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Lol creative whatever gets the job done gets er done, I've been sticking a couple flowering plants growing alongside clones in a small sliding cabinet since the clones need the lights on longer. And sorry for the loss on the 4 had to toss half my plants a couple grows back it hurt the soul temporaily

Hell yea that really hurt fr,I also got attached to those 4 !! I thought they was good. I have everything sorted out an just gotta clone the new plants and I'm back on track,means I can address the newly formed PTSD regarding herms......lmao you doing a ninja grow aswell nniioooce bro!!!!

 

[4our8ighty0]

If I remember correctly, these were bag seeds? You take your chances with bag seeds, as you probably know. ;-) Getting two female out of it is a good thing. Getting all males....that would have been money down the drain to feed the rats.

Yea sheesh I would of been so upset if they all did that omg!! lol nah after looking into it,I believe it was a stress herm that caused this catastrophe. I already had to cull 2 plants a few weeks earlier in grow for same thing. So it was all necassary,I was just unlucky the last 4 Hermed after schwazz and flip to flower. I moved 4 of the veg girls into flower room and propped them to match canopy height of the 2 plants that been in flower for 7 days longer. The canopy are same height and flower times are only 1 week apart. A little tricky on the harvest end but np to have to spend a extra week behind the loupe,it's fun for me anyway lol so now I have clean genetics and 8 plants in flower. Things are still good to go,I just have a new focus on my clones now.

 

[4our8ighty0]

Gotcha, get creative, there’s a dark place in your house or you can devise a tee pee with a Mylar sheet over it

I happened to want my plant in the dark today and tomorrow till it dries out and I will harvest it. So I put it under my stairs where there is very little diffuse and reflected light and no direct light at all.

Nice save and rolling with the flow.

Ahh you do 24 dark before harvest ? Hard to see but she look good. I took your advice n put blanket over table,it worked great!! Things are back to a semblance of order,new canopy is propped even,genetics are clean and I have 2 plants extra in flower to play with.

 

[Digipro]

If they were males,I would consider make ng seeds but idk 100% and it's too early for seeds lol when I get my keepers sorted I will def make me some seeds so I can carry them w me anywhere. I'm pretty sure this was just a stress herm,had 2 herm earlier in grow aswell. I just focusing on my harvest weight,after losing 4 of my big girls. I moved 4 veg girls in and will flower the 7th and 8th plant in my soon to be clone room so I can pad my harvest numbers,sift the 6 veg girls and find my keeper plants,then clone tf outta them. This issue had to happen,I just wish I hadn't gotten attached to the 4 I killed. I did recycle their names and I propped shorter girls up. So I have a even canopy,decent harvest and clean genetics to continue building my continuous harvest machine lol.

thats whay i wantred seeds starsawg suites me just fine and their are several breeds of stardaawg from different breeders and its gettinf the right strain so i now a guy who works in the garden department who has friends who grow stardawg and he said he would get me some cuttings for 15 a peace , took him two weeks to get them and they wheree about 3 inch tall when i got them, i grew them killed 3 by accident i thinkit was adding fulvic acid thats not really designed for hydroponics as it just clung to the roots and clogged them up and kille 3 , i took clones of the last one that was nearly dead and nursed it back to health which was the one i put under 24/12 for a week , and checking over last few days i may have got a few hopefully polen sacks developing so it may have worked turing one male , i will get a picture let me know if you think its male ?? i think it is. it looked like yours did little balls growing a the base of nodes . so the reason for wanting to get pollen and seeds is so i have the stardawg if i ever decied to try something else i can always come backto star dwag with the seeds i make. i am currently hopefully going to get anothr rdwc system one better tham my system seen one for half price on ebay so hopefully when i get paid tomorrow i will be able to get that my old onme relys on pumping water into 4 seperate grow buckets and then it flows by gravity back tot he res which is only 2.5cm lower than the pots. the nes system sucks water through each pot back into the res so less likely to block and over spill. plus iot has na hose for another larger res say 100 litre res whcih means less filling up.

the picture is the best i can get but that looks like a ball to me . thing is i tryed to turn a clone not a seed which as said earlier clones already have the sexing of the plant so i have had to revert it from female to male not just stop it going female as you do using collodial silver from a female seed.
do you think thats a ball in the picture ?

new system also means i wouldnt have to leave the pump running 24/7 whcih means sa save on electric.

also its gutting when you get a herm. io have had a few myself either stress or cause the seeds where from already cured weed like you got earlier in this post the seed i planted that hermed mainly was cause of herm genetics. i also have some seed on a fem seed and ididnt notice and it either got poliunated form someone growing males in the area or cause of stress as i didnt see any hermed plants with make organs . and i havge them i a container , trouble is they could be anything either hermed or from soneone who has grown male flowers for the polllen for the bee's i know i was in a grow stor and a guy walke din asking what was the best way toget males to grow big as he has a spare out of the way field he was growing males in for his bee's to collect he pollen. his town is about 10 miles from my town but who knows where his field is . me and my mate didnt approve of him sending pollen over our females but couldnt say anything lol so the big bag of seed i have now could all be herms or crossed with an unknown breed of male hemp who knows lol.

and best way to tell when seeds are done as far as i am aware is dont pick them let them drop off or compeltly finish flowering , as the plant will drop seeds when it starts to dry out and die so i figure thats the best time to harvest when the plant shows signs of dieing.

hope you had a good Christmas and a Good new year .

 

[Digipro]

Ahh you do 24 dark before harvest ? Hard to see but she look good. I took your advice n put blanket over table,it worked great!! Things are back to a semblance of order,new canopy is propped even,genetics are clean and I have 2 plants extra in flower to play with.

Doctor bugbee says 24 hours of light is best before harvest turpenes are made during lights on hours so 24 hours off means 24 hours less turpenes, i am trying 13/11 flower se how it goes and finsih on 24, 36 or 48 hours of light . i know i wil be going for 24 just dont know about 36 and 48 though .

hope you had a good Christmas and a good new year.

 

[4our8ighty0]

thats whay i wantred seeds starsawg suites me just fine and their are several breeds of stardaawg from different breeders and its gettinf the right strain so i now a guy who works in the garden department who has friends who grow stardawg and he said he would get me some cuttings for 15 a peace , took him two weeks to get them and they wheree about 3 inch tall when i got them, i grew them killed 3 by accident i thinkit was adding fulvic acid thats not really designed for hydroponics as it just clung to the roots and clogged them up and kille 3 , i took clones of the last one that was nearly dead and nursed it back to health which was the one i put under 24/12 for a week , and checking over last few days i may have got a few hopefully polen sacks developing so it may have worked turing one male , i will get a picture let me know if you think its male ?? i think it is. it looked like yours did little balls growing a the base of nodes . so the reason for wanting to get pollen and seeds is so i have the stardawg if i ever decied to try something else i can always come backto star dwag with the seeds i make. i am currently hopefully going to get anothr rdwc system one better tham my system seen one for half price on ebay so hopefully when i get paid tomorrow i will be able to get that my old onme relys on pumping water into 4 seperate grow buckets and then it flows by gravity back tot he res which is only 2.5cm lower than the pots. the nes system sucks water through each pot back into the res so less likely to block and over spill. plus iot has na hose for another larger res say 100 litre res whcih means less filling up.

the picture is the best i can get but that looks like a ball to me . thing is i tryed to turn a clone not a seed which as said earlier clones already have the sexing of the plant so i have had to revert it from female to male not just stop it going female as you do using collodial silver from a female seed.
do you think thats a ball in the picture ?

new system also means i wouldnt have to leave the pump running 24/7 whcih means sa save on electric.

also its gutting when you get a herm. io have had a few myself either stress or cause the seeds where from already cured weed like you got earlier in this post the seed i planted that hermed mainly was cause of herm genetics. i also have some seed on a fem seed and ididnt notice and it either got poliunated form someone growing males in the area or cause of stress as i didnt see any hermed plants with make organs . and i havge them i a container , trouble is they could be anything either hermed or from soneone who has grown male flowers for the polllen for the bee's i know i was in a grow stor and a guy walke din asking what was the best way toget males to grow big as he has a spare out of the way field he was growing males in for his bee's to collect he pollen. his town is about 10 miles from my town but who knows where his field is . me and my mate didnt approve of him sending pollen over our females but couldnt say anything lol so the big bag of seed i have now could all be herms or crossed with an unknown breed of male hemp who knows lol.

and best way to tell when seeds are done as far as i am aware is dont pick them let them drop off or compeltly finish flowering , as the plant will drop seeds when it starts to dry out and die so i figure thats the best time to harvest when the plant shows signs of dieing.

hope you had a good Christmas and a Good new year .

Hmmm that def looks strange,seems attached to main stem? And its not in right place but very ball like,is this only one ? Have you done Any drastic to plant in last week? Any pistils starting to poke out the tip? If it's only one and you not sure just give it a day n check again. If you see more than one like that than I'd call it a dude my dude also is plant flowering ?if it is than that could change things,those things are known to swell during flowering?

 

[Digipro]

yea its got others but smaller its a slow growing plant compared to the others , but yea there are a few othrs on other branches i have checked all the other females and they dont look the same, there all teardropped shaped that grow into buds so they dont have any small balls that i can see like this one . plus all the others the pistols of shot up even on another female thats laggin behind its got bigger pistol heads than the rest of the bigger females so its defiantly different on some way . i will give it a week see if i see anythig groiwing off thats going to drop pollen . if not another veging female will be ready to go in instead as once you sue silver on the plant you cannot smoke it if it even if it turns female not male , also one thing between the new system i hoepfully will get and my old is the net puts are different all my small cloning buckets have 5 inch hole and the new are 4 inch maybe 3.5 inch lol
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[Waywardwayne]

I don’t do a dark period usually but these buds were purple on top from light so I wanted them to have a couple days to heal their sunburn if there was any. I harvested it today an hour after the lights would have come on. That’s when it is best.

 

[Joe Brewster]

More than clones: What cannabis growers need to know about tissue culture

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Something more for you to play with

 

[4our8ighty0]

yea its got others but smaller its a slow growing plant compared to the others , but yea there are a few othrs on other branches i have checked all the other females and they dont look the same, there all teardropped shaped that grow into buds so they dont have any small balls that i can see like this one . plus all the others the pistols of shot up even on another female thats laggin behind its got bigger pistol heads than the rest of the bigger females so its defiantly different on some way . i will give it a week see if i see anythig groiwing off thats going to drop pollen . if not another veging female will be ready to go in instead as once you sue silver on the plant you cannot smoke it if it even if it turns female not male , also one thing between the new system i hoepfully will get and my old is the net puts are different all my small cloning buckets have 5 inch hole and the new are 4 inch maybe 3.5 inch lol
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Ok that still makes me nervous for you,watch that thing like a hawk I'd just rip it n sleep peacefully I will be taking clones off new additions to flower in few more Days. I have a few things I wanna try w these clones

 

[4our8ighty0]

I don’t do a dark period usually but these buds were purple on top from light so I wanted them to have a couple days to heal their sunburn if there was any. I harvested it today an hour after the lights would have come on. That’s when it is best.

Ohh ok yes I heard same thing about hour after lights on aswell been reading about 24 hr veg spec lighting can increase terps too but have not experimented yet. Have you ? I learned when I was in a rush I could speed up the onset of flower by giving a 24 hr dark period then straight into 12/12 for veg plants going to flower can jump start the production of hormones that build up and cause flowering to occur. So it's a kind of hack that is useless unless you in a rush lolol. It works tho !!

 

[Waywardwayne]

Woah that’s interesting, 24 dark before flip. I still didn’t quite understand when you said this in your journal but now I get it. I just knew you had a plan and knew what you were doing so I wasn’t gonna push to understand at that instance. Next years indoor grow may be photos and I’ll try that trick at switch. Otherwise I will have photos outside and can’t control light out there.

 

[4our8ighty0]

More than clones: What cannabis growers need to know about tissue culture

Tissue culture is a key area where advances are being made. The biotechnology could lead to consistent, successful cannabis crops.

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Something more for you to play with

This is some sci Fi level shizz right here,check this out @Digipro !! We were talking about something very similar a few weeks ago!! This is the future of cloning to grow a viable clone from samples or DNA in a dish !!! It sounds fake right ? Lol nope this will change the game big time guys .. it seems fairly simple once the sample is obtained!! Anyone could do it

 

[4our8ighty0]

Ok so here the new n old ladies this morning they all very thirsty and are about to be watered ...

These are the overflow plants,to pad my harvest numbers after the loss of 4 big girls,I also decided to flower the last 2 veg plants in 1 gal pots and train them with super crop and plant ties.

I will just experiment on these 2. They appear to have received quickly !!!

 

[Waywardwayne]

Looking great there.

 

[Sativa1970]

Plants run like a factory with a day shift and a night shift. Productivity ramps up quickly at the beginning of a shift then slows to a crawl over time.

Night shift restocks the raw minerals in the leaves and stems. Gathers up the extra glucose in the leaves and puts it where it is needed. As it works it slowly releases a hormone that induces flowering. It takes roughly 6 hours to complete its task for the night of cleaning and restocking. At 14 hours of night shift everything is completely reset, glucose used up and hormone production crawl to a stop.

Day shift start the day consuming the flowering hormone like morning coffee then sips on it through the shift. It franticly converts the neatly stacked raw materials into glucose. Glucose is produced faster than it can be hauled off to other parts of the plant. Leaf swells with glucose (praying), leaving less room for new raw materials to enter the leaf. Glucose production get slower and slower. After 18 hours it looks like Walmart after a black Friday sale and production slows to a crawl.

So less than 6 hours of dark, day shift is less productive. More than 14 hours of dark flower hormone production is insignificant. Day shift showing up for a few minutes at night will consume a bunch of the flowering hormone and go home. Less than a 13 hour of day is not enough to consume all of the flowering hormone. More than 18 hour days glucose production is insignificant. Minerals are stored in the roots, stems and leaves not the flower. Therefore flushing or when you harvest has no effect on bud mineral content, just the sugar leaves. End of the day minerals are at the lowest and highest glucose.