All Van is posting , is what i'm telling him.....
...Van...puff this shit would ya....
...Van...puff this shit would ya....
Stanks Go Perpetual In 2018!
I need to find more farmer friends apparently hey wait I think I might know one nice
Political correctness has nothing to do with the government or freedom of speech. It's a term that started out with one meaning and has been co-oped by some to mean something completely different. At its core, it "refer(s) to avoiding language or behavior that can be seen as excluding, marginalizing, or insulting groups of people considered disadvantaged or discriminated against, especially groups defined by sex or race." That's a problem why? Anything taken to its extreme is bad, including this construct though. Still, as a term, it should not be assumed to mean only what those who throw it around as a pejorative mean.
It didn't change your perspective enough to realize the fact you may be offending some people (true) and that maybe this "I will never change to make others happy" attitude might not be the best and highest use of your time on earth, as true to yourself as it may seem. Are you hearing what I'm saying?
Not sure where you are finding that, but not where I live. Critical thinking is taught from kindergarten through high school here. Y'all are starting to sound like a bunch of "get off my lawn" old folks, and you're all probably younger than I am!
What Shed Said!Playing soon in a venue near you! (Support act - Rectangular Cuboid of Dankness feat. Amy Gardner)
Pjs420
Well-Known Member
if you have an opinion and voice it, no matter how well spoken or educated you are, you will always offend someone... So are we suppose to be opinion-less?
I'll split the door and the cover with you!
Playing soon in a venue near you! (Support act - Rectangular Cuboid of Dankness feat. Amy Gardner)
Absolutely not! The best you can do is voice your educated and considered opinion and listen to the educated and considered opinion of others. Then decide if maybe their opinion is something you might want to consider and modify yours, or not!
It's important to understand why they're offended and not dismiss it offhand or flippantly.
Pjs420
Well-Known Member
joe, just drive around your area, look for a horse farm or sheep farm whatever, and drive in and ask, most will happily let you take some off their hands. Just make sure you go for the oldest stuff usually furthest end of the pile, I scraped the top layer of grass and whatever was growing off and dug down for the good stuff underneath.
Well marking papers down because they are written about a topic the teacher disagrees with is where I would like to start.
Not sure how someone is encouraged to think differently or outside the box when the teacher negates any "outside the box" thinking they don't agree with, by taking points off.
The problem is there is not a correct and incorrect political view. Just differing ones. So the teachers are trying to tell kids that they can be whoever they feel like and that being different isn't wrong, all while backhandedly insulting the people with different views then them at the same time.
And I know your gonna say well that isn't every class. Sure but if you have 5 teachers and 1 of them does that the kid will be exposed to the hypocracy that only further confuses a child trying to find themselves.
I consider my self to be pretty open and accepting. Just because I don't understand something doesn't mean I wont try to empathise and relate... now if you mistake me attwnotingntonrelate and understand as offensive, idk, sounds like a you problem.
We don't agree to disagree much anymore. We don't really listen to differing opinions, we hear them sometimes, and that's about it.... if someone has a different view than ours it is wrong and bad. But at the exact same time it's okay to be different???? So which is it????
It's back to vans we can't please everyone. Sure I'll go out of my way to be (what I consider) respectful, but don't judge me for being me. Especially when it's all in attempt to people less as a whole. Idk cant win with some people I guess lol.
Not sure how someone is encouraged to think differently or outside the box when the teacher negates any "outside the box" thinking they don't agree with, by taking points off.
The problem is there is not a correct and incorrect political view. Just differing ones. So the teachers are trying to tell kids that they can be whoever they feel like and that being different isn't wrong, all while backhandedly insulting the people with different views then them at the same time.
And I know your gonna say well that isn't every class. Sure but if you have 5 teachers and 1 of them does that the kid will be exposed to the hypocracy that only further confuses a child trying to find themselves.
I consider my self to be pretty open and accepting. Just because I don't understand something doesn't mean I wont try to empathise and relate... now if you mistake me attwnotingntonrelate and understand as offensive, idk, sounds like a you problem.
We don't agree to disagree much anymore. We don't really listen to differing opinions, we hear them sometimes, and that's about it.... if someone has a different view than ours it is wrong and bad. But at the exact same time it's okay to be different???? So which is it????
It's back to vans we can't please everyone. Sure I'll go out of my way to be (what I consider) respectful, but don't judge me for being me. Especially when it's all in attempt to people less as a whole. Idk cant win with some people I guess lol.
So then what do I do with it lol is my only problem lol
Gospel shed! This at its core is what is wrong. People too arrogant and closed mind to admit a different idea is good. God forbid someone blows your mind and helps you see what you couldn't all along....
Respectfully listening is key. And disagreeing is okay! I think it's so dumb when people won't befriend some one because they look at the world different....
I go out of my way to make those people a friend so I can learn and understand them better. Idk may just be me though...
Pjs420
Well-Known Member
in my opinion, that contradicts what you said above, because that is more or less what van has said... I, personally, wont change to make others happy, this doesnt mean im not open to listening to what is being said and reconsidering my views on things. I dont get offended by others opinions, thats their entitlement as a human being, but i find that many people are incapable of voicing their differing opinions without becoming aggreasive or derogatory towards me for having my own.
Pjs420
Well-Known Member
Anything youd like lol not sure what your growing style is.... Personally i add it to all my gardens around the house, flowers, veggies, trees, you name it, dog dug holes in my lawn, dump some in there and topsoil and reseed lol
Damn Them, if my kid went to a school where that happened I'd be pissed! I'd pull Them out or vote out the people who run the district. That shit is crazy. Remember that the term political correctness has nothing to do with politics. It uses the term "politic" from the same root though. And I think our problem is that we aren't listening to and considering each other any more. We are siloed and closed to discussion as a country (not Canada of course!).
It's not about changing to make others happy, it's about not understanding why what you're doing can be offensive to someone regardless of your intent. Listening is great, changing your behavior after you hear is better (or at least not belittling those who take offense). Why offend when it's not necessary, except in a "refusal to change" way.
I think like Van said, we just need to recognize going into any exchange that the possibility of a disagreement always exists but that disagreement is inevitable, natural, and can even be healthy.
- Thread starter
- #1,556
I do hear what you are saying. I have had these same discussions with countless people Shed. I don't change how I treat Ms Stank because she tells me I am supposed to treat her a certain way. I change how I treat her because I feel its the right way to treat her and its how I would want a man to treat my daughter if I had one, my sister, or how I want my two grand daughters to be treated. Now I can understand how my opinion might change on a matter if I sit down and have an open dialogue with respectful speaking and listening. But I refer back to the above statement.....if something changes its not because I want to make that other person happy for feel better. It changed because something in my moral compass changed. Something changed that led me to believe something else was the right things to do....not to try to make every Tom, Dick, Harry, Sally, Stacy, and Tina happy.
And I ask you this, are you willing to change your moral compass solely because of how I feel about your actions? What happens when you change it and now Ms Stank doesn't like your stance because it makes her feel 'offended' or bad. Are you going to change to keep her from being "offended". And now that you changed for her, what happens to Amy or Sue's opinion.....and what happens if that change then makes me offended? Changing to make people happy or feel good by itself, isn't a valid reason. See this slippery slope that you advocate for?
Don't dismiss my take as a reason not to self evaluate. I am a firm believer in self evaluation. Stuff that is important to me now, wasn't important to me when I was 25. And stuff that was important at 25 doesn't mean shit in many cases to me today! Why....because my moral compass has shifted as I live.
- Thread starter
- #1,557
Not this guy! LOL....having an opinion is not something I struggle with.....nor will I ever stop.
And its awesome that Shed and I can sit here trading opinions and thoughts and no one being injured or hurt, I still respect him as much as I did before, perhaps even more because he is willing to share his thoughts or beliefs even though they differ from mine.
Having been to 30+ different countries, where many of them the people aren't allowed to share opinions or thoughts due to governmental rules or religious rules against anything that undermined those things, its made me far more appreciative of my country. Thank GOD I live in a Constitutional Republic and not in a democracy!
- Thread starter
- #1,558
Man some of my best friends share some crazy different views from me. As a matter of fact, many of them are quite different.....but love em and respect em despite those differences. Hell in some cases, some of those differences are pretty freaking cool.I think like Van said, we just need to recognize going into any exchange that the possibility of a disagreement always exists but that disagreement is inevitable, natural, and can even be healthy.
Personally, I have come to believe that the greatest unity is the one that supports the greatest diversity....
- Thread starter
- #1,560
And I just want to throw this out there too Shed.....I do many things I don't want to do as well.....and I do them because they are still what I feel is the right thing to do.
When your moral compass is right, its easy to sleep peacefully at night.
When your moral compass is right, its easy to sleep peacefully at night.
