flytier
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Nothing wrong with every week; just gotta put down half as many each time. I have a plant or two starting to bud every week now and I love it. I'll have to post some pictures soon.
Stanks Go Perpetual In 2018!
Nothing wrong with every week; just gotta put down half as many each time. I have a plant or two starting to bud every week now and I love it. I'll have to post some pictures soon.
MiOutdoorsman
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I like the aggressive approach of popping beans every few weeks! I like seeds better than clones. I'm always curious about what pheno's I might have
I love clones because you know what you are getting. I like popping seeds to try and find new and better plants. I try to keep clones around for a couple of rounds until I know whether it is special or not. I kept a lot of mediocre clones around too long in the past though due to being afraid I would not find something better in the next seed pop. Now I try and drop my weakest strain or two every round to open up room for new strains. This is a fairly new approach for me and I have found some interesting plants since doing it this way.
Stank I like that you are sticking to a schedule. One thing I figured out from running a perpetual is that tings never go to plan. It is all about how you manage the unexpected that determines how well it will work. I always have times where I have a bunch of plants begging to go into flower with no room, followed by not enough plants to take the ones coming downs places. It does not matter what I try to fix this it always happens
so I just go with it. Some times it means putting plants in that are smaller than you would like or holding a plant in veg longer than it would like. You just learn to make do.
Ms Stank
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Cotylodons is too complicated a word for me to remember....I like to call them pigtails lol
flytier
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You'll have that plus a lot more bouncing around in your head before you know it.
Lol lots of vocab, but I do like your adaptation Ms S! Hindu Kush sound awesome Van, should incorporate that into some breeding projects!
illizm775
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I liked it when i grew it out. Dem hindus got avery pretty smell, but it got demolished by truthbands aromas and aggressive eating habits. There were days i checked the rez and it was down to 4.3. Change it out and a few days later it'd be back at the same thing.
Hungry gal, I like when they eat good and drink all the time. They get fat and smelly much like when humans do the same lol
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Its funny you said that, that was the first thing Ms Stank said......"I love their little swirls, they look like little pigtails". They are kind of cute. They should start shooting up here pretty soon. I expect to see the first roots in two days, and after that they should start taking off.
Nothing beats the excitement of dropping new beans. Its like xmas for adults.....we never know what we might get! Stankberry is next for me.....followed by Blue Dream and Northern Lights.
They are adorable!! Thanks for stopping by NS!! Hope all is well my Dutch brother!
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Every two weeks will be better for us. A much more manageable time frame and it makes harvests far more manageable. A harvest and new bean every two weeks should be about perfect.
I am a fan of both. I think the potential of new beans is hard to compete with, but clones are a necessity as well cause you never know what you might get. Take for instance my ATF #1 and my ATF #2 from the first grow. ATF #2 was clearly the stronger plant and I thought for sure the clear breeding choice.....but I took a couple clones from ATF #1 as well. When it came time for harvest, ATF #1 despite being smaller, out yielded #2 by more than 25%. That same ratio held true on the harvest of the clones. So I am definitely glad I was safe and took clones of both.
I love clones because you know what you are getting. I like popping seeds to try and find new and better plants. I try to keep clones around for a couple of rounds until I know whether it is special or not. I kept a lot of mediocre clones around too long in the past though due to being afraid I would not find something better in the next seed pop. Now I try and drop my weakest strain or two every round to open up room for new strains. This is a fairly new approach for me and I have found some interesting plants since doing it this way.
Stank I like that you are sticking to a schedule. One thing I figured out from running a perpetual is that tings never go to plan. It is all about how you manage the unexpected that determines how well it will work. I always have times where I have a bunch of plants begging to go into flower with no room, followed by not enough plants to take the ones coming downs places. It does not matter what I try to fix this it always happens
Hey Yeti, thanks for the input brother. I am going into this perpetual with a plan but with an asterisk next to it saying "this is only a theory and I know that Murphy is going to try to kick me in the balls every chance he has". I know there will be variation in the times but the baseline should get rolling how I want. I am using 10 weeks as a baseline flower time and I am using 8 weeks as a baseline veg time and I am using 1 week as a seedling time. So each plant spends one week in the dome as a seedling then moves out and begins their 8 weeks (tentatively......though some strains will veg less if they long flowering Sativas) in veg. After that 8 weeks, it gets moved to the Flower tent. Since some indicas are ready in 7-8 weeks and some Sativas will take 12+ weeks I know there will be modifications. Once I get 4 plants in Flower and 5 plants in veg, the system will essentially become a pull type of system. When I harvest one in flower, I will pull the oldest one from veg and drop a new bean (or two if they are regular beans). When I harvest an Indica, the replacement bean will be an indica......when I harvest a Sativa, I will plant a new one. Essentially there will generally be 2 indicas, 2 sativas, 2 hybrids, at least 1 CBD, and a miscellaneous strain of one of our choosing. If all goes according to plan, I should be able to grow out 17 strains this year (give or take one or two to account for murphy) and 25 per year in future years. Vacations are the only thing I have to plan for but if I invest in some sort of gravity fed watering system, that shouldn't be much of an issue.
These are all guidelines and I might get a couple months into this perpetual and I will decide to change it up. But this sort of scheduling and approach is right up my ally from a planning stand point. With my plant limit and logistics in terms of space.....this will maximize our strain search and keep us supplied with lots of fresh meds.
Also, we are open to input or ideas from others that might have something we haven't thought of.
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Her learning curve won't be too bad since she is involved in all aspects of our outdoor garden over the last 5 years. Mostly it will just be the new terms, but as you have seen she will come up with her own term for something LOL. Hey, whatever works....right brother??
I have a 10 pack of regular seeds from Sensi seeds sitting in my Seedsman shopping cart. It will definitely become part of the breeding projects brother!! She liked vaping it in the Tru Va......put her right to sleep so I imagine growing it in Stank Soil will make it even better. I tried some in the bong and I didn't care for the chemical taste so I want to grow it in my organic soil. LOL....I am turning into such a picky weed snob!
I enjoyed the smell of it......a nice citrus scent to it with a touch of spice. Tastes pretty decent in the vape pen.
Yeah but we like when our plant ladies get fat, hairy and smelly. Most of us don't desire that in our human females LOL
It sounds like a very solid plan. I like that you have used 10 weeks of flowering as a baseline. When I planned mine I used 8 weeks as a baseline after talking to another perpetual grower and I was pretty disappointed when I found most strains I was growing were taking 10-14 weeks to flower!
The grower I talked to ran hydro and had it down. They were able to pull almost everything at 8 weeks and it was fine. With me running soil, and Doc's kit at that, 8 weeks just does not cut it for most strains. Are you going to clone tings as you go in this or are you strictly running seeds all year?- Thread starter
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It sounds like a very solid plan. I like that you have used 10 weeks of flowering as a baseline. When I planned mine I used 8 weeks as a baseline after talking to another perpetual grower and I was pretty disappointed when I found most strains I was growing were taking 10-14 weeks to flower!
I have left myself roughly 3-4 slots for clones or breeding should I find something that looks decent. For example, I am very happy with the Nukehead #2 at this point compared to other plants I have grown. So if she continues at this pace, I will clone her for additional plants. I will make feminized Nukeheads from one clone and I will use another one to make some Nuclear Thunderfuck seeds as well. And I might end up loving the smoke and if thats the case I might grow out another clone for more bud or use in oil.
I am really using the first year to run as many different strains as I can and see what I like and what I want to work with in the future. I figure 2 years of running different strains and I might have an idea of where we want to start from a breeding perspective.
When looking to the future I think taking at least one clone from each plant is imperative. Imagine your disappointment if you plant a seed and grow the plant to harvest without a clone. You complete the curing process and after your first hit you are in love! That exact strain/phenotype is gone. Sure, if you pop more seeds from that strain they might be close or similar, but not the same. So that gem is gone when you burn the last pipe full.
A clone takes up little space, doesn't eat much, they're quiet and don't cause any trouble. Plus they can be slow grown and kept on the side in case you need a plant to fill a hole in the tent/room.
This is my opinion only. I am sure there are valid arguments both ways and as a glutton for information I look forward to the alternative to not cloning.
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If I don't have a plant limit to contend with, I would take a clone off of every single plant. But to stay legal (which is important to both of us) its a choice between running more strains and being selective on what plants I decide to keep clones from, or lowering my strains and taking clones from every strain. I think I am confident on my instincts on what to look for and what to let go. Like as of right now.....I wouldn't take a clone off of Nukehead #1. The risk of it being a unicorn vs the chances of it being a unicorn when taking into account my plant limit makes it so I wouldn't clone that one. Now Nukehead #2 is looking very very much like a plant worth taking a couple clones.
Now in a perfect world, I would clone every plant..."just in case". But a plant limit, limited space and lighting and i have to make a choice.
Nice that sounds very reasonable. The breeding intrigues me but I just cant dedicate any room to males, nor do I have a space where I can collect pollen without endangering everything. It is great to save some of what you may like while also running as many strains as you can. Good on you!
I think his plant limit is the limiting factor. I clone everything just in case because as you said I would hate to lose something the could potentially be the nicest thing I have grown. But it is hard to keep everything around while trying to run seeds and stay without your limit.
You can also always decide to re-veg anything that turns out to surprise you in flower! It is a last resort but it is an option if need be.
Yes! LOL! I tend to agree with this, for the most part. I love new beans, but in my rdwc I can have a clone ready to cook in no time. Naturally, there are those times when I just pop beans and let them ride. Or, if I pop a feminized seed then I normally don't clone them either. Clones are just more fun to me for some reason. Seedlings take forever in my world...like watching a plant grow...
Edit: Having said that though, "My name is Grandpa, and I'm a seedaholic." It's an addiction.
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See this is why moving to Maine and benefiting from Maine's cannabis laws would be perfect. They have what I consider the most grower friendly laws in the country from both recreational and medicinal. You can run 6 plants in flower per person, 6 mature plants (classified as plants over 18") and unlimited seedling/immature plants. So we could have 12 in flower, 12 in veg and as many freaking clones and seedlings as my heard desires! On top of that, you can grow for friends/family as well. You just have to put a tag on the plant with the persons information.
This is how cannabis should be treated in this country. Not these unreasonable limits most states have on you. I was hoping New Hampshire would lean more towards Maine's model, but they look like they are going to be more restrictive than our current state.
I can have 12 in veg, and only 4 in flower. There’s other stupid limitations going into effect soon, but not sure what that will look like. They are now taxing providers heavily here for medical which naturally drives the cost up at dispensaries. So far, they haven’t mentioned taxing if you grow for yourself.
The regulations are weird and if you have a card to grow your own meds then you cannot visit just any dispensary to purchase weed. If you have a card to purchase from a dispensary then you are tied to that dispensary and can only purchase your meds from them. You can change dispensary, but you first must have their signature and the signature of the dispensary you want to move to and then pay a fee to have a new card printed specifically for that dispensary. You can’t just visit any dispensary and purchase your meds even though you have a medical card.
My card says “Self Provider” which is the way I like it.
The regulations are weird and if you have a card to grow your own meds then you cannot visit just any dispensary to purchase weed. If you have a card to purchase from a dispensary then you are tied to that dispensary and can only purchase your meds from them. You can change dispensary, but you first must have their signature and the signature of the dispensary you want to move to and then pay a fee to have a new card printed specifically for that dispensary. You can’t just visit any dispensary and purchase your meds even though you have a medical card.
My card says “Self Provider” which is the way I like it.