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@Mr Krip. Sorry to bang on. I don’t mean to trespass on your grief, sir.
One last thought on spray drift in the bedroom: a) have you possibly become so nose-blind from growing top shelf meds for years that you sometimes slather unholy amounts of aftershave or deodorant? , or b) does your lady friend (for example) does she like to smell “pretty”?
Those things are full of esters and aldehydes and god knows what. When my hepatitis was bad one of my wife’s friend’s would visit and it would be days before I could go in the room without nausea and headaches. That shit is real. So is self doubt. (Some donkeys could write the damn book.) You are a brilliant gardener and have been for some time. The likelihood you did something daft isn’t one (a likelihood I mean).
Sorry to go on. I dare say I’m not the only person/donkey who keeps trying to figure out wtf just happened.
:peace: :love:
I get headaches from strong perfume and Plug ins Kill me I cant go in a house that has them for even a couple minutes without get a bad headache. Even walking by someone with a lot of perfume can some times kick in a headache.
 
I've often wondered about this. I don't actually have a debilitating problem with perfumes, but I do get heavy lungs and headaches. I'm also a lifelong smoker and fully understand the issue people have with the stink.

But ... :hmmmm:

Why do I have to deal with perfumes?

Instead, we might just try to all get along without getting the law involved each goddam time.

:Namaste:
 
I just spent some time trying to find the answer to the wilting thing. I had it happen to a perfectly healthy veg plant a couple years ago. One day it looked like it needed water even though the pot still had some weight to it. I watered it and the next day it had basically died - nothing but collapsed leaves and branches drooping from the central stem. It dried up pure green.

I found a lot of posts from hydro guys and I never found anyone who had "the" answer. But there is also info from soil growers raising peppers and other veggies. One day they look a bit weak, the next day they're dead as a doornail.

One clue - it has to be a vascular problem. The whole system stops moving, as if you had cut the roots off. There are a couple of fungal diseases but they don't affect the plant abruptly like this does. I doubt they're the cause.

Something simply shuts down the whole pump/suction/valve system. There are pests that can infect that, but again, they move more slowly. This is sudden and fatal.

:hmmmm:
 
black domina never broke, under torture, but one day, i GENTLY nudged her, copping a feel of her sis and the next= herbicide. she shrugged, that night, on me, too. I'd wondered the same thing, h2o, wise and u know- i just figured the B, was jealous.
 
You may never figure this out, just start a new run and do what you do. Gotta keep moving forward.
This is exactly where I'm at! ;)

I just spent some time trying to find the answer to the wilting thing. I had it happen to a perfectly healthy veg plant a couple years ago. One day it looked like it needed water even though the pot still had some weight to it. I watered it and the next day it had basically died - nothing but collapsed leaves and branches drooping from the central stem. It dried up pure green.

I found a lot of posts from hydro guys and I never found anyone who had "the" answer. But there is also info from soil growers raising peppers and other veggies. One day they look a bit weak, the next day they're dead as a doornail.

One clue - it has to be a vascular problem. The whole system stops moving, as if you had cut the roots off. There are a couple of fungal diseases but they don't affect the plant abruptly like this does. I doubt they're the cause.

Something simply shuts down the whole pump/suction/valve system. There are pests that can infect that, but again, they move more slowly. This is sudden and fatal.

:hmmmm:
That's all good info. In hydro, things can go south pretty quick and for a lot of different reasons (PH, res temps, PPM's, etc.). To have four plants, all different strains, experience the same problem on the exact same day in kit soil would be one hell of a coincidence unless it was something environmental, like temps or RH, or possibly a bad feeding, methinks. :hmmmm:
 
man, that sux. no chance of grabbin a clone, either, is there? i have a vision of leaves which have shrugged beyond recovery.
i believe in the vascular comments. figure when i bumped mine, that had to b what happened. it was not a long established girl. i know an entire tank was mentioned, though.
pleeeease tell us u had another tank, clones, seedlings n a seed addiction?!

very cool, seein a journalist weigh in on your grow! is it true, to b able to write well, u have to talk back to the voices in ur head?
 
man, that sux. no chance of grabbin a clone, either, is there? i have a vision of leaves which have shrugged beyond recovery.
i believe in the vascular comments. figure when i bumped mine, that had to b what happened. it was not a long established girl. i know an entire tank was mentioned, though.
pleeeease tell us u had another tank, clones, seedlings n a seed addiction?!

very cool, seein a journalist weigh in on your grow! is it true, to b able to write well, u have to talk back to the voices in ur head?
Yeah, I have clones of everything I put into flower, and I also have more seeds for all of the strains, but I also have seeds for another hundred strains, or so, (major seed addiction! :oops: ) and was already planning on running the White Strawberries and Pineapple Express next round, so I already have young clones of them.
 
Gosh - sorry for the loss Krip! What a crazy experience. Sincere condolences. That must just felt awful, for some time.
I do think the airborne pesticide or some such is the most likely mysterious cause.

In any case - sounds like you’re moving on bravely. Bring on the next lot eh!?
:Namaste:
 
Krip,

Were you experimenting with large doses of Tea? I seem to recall that. Even so, we'd see a gradual sickening of the plants over days or weeks, not what you experienced.

I've never encountered anything like this, where they all go from happy to dead overnight.

Could to much tea maybe be the cause of why my Red Leicester Tease are having issues with leaves burning up and it seeming to wana finish early wen it shud have another 2 weeks or so? See this is her as of yesterday or the day b4 cant remember exactly which but its one of the two lol.





And dang @Mr. Krip losing almost a whole crop sux major. Ive been there man it really chaps my cheeks wen it happens thats for sure. Well im excited to see what u start up for the next show man. I shouod be ready for tht one an make it over pretty quick once u start it if u havnt already lmao. I gotta keep reading to catch up an see if u got one started yet haha. But yea man i started my auto run with the kit in 3rd round soil now so im kinda nervous but excited as well lol. I hope they dont stunt on me. Altho when i tried topping one of my Zkittles i ended up fimming her and removing one of the leaves lol. So i really hope tht one dnt stunt on me. An i keep having issues with my rh staying up since the tent is near the AC unit. But since its winter im hoping tht by taking it dwn tht will help to hold in the rh alil. But yea off to play catch up now lol
 
This is exactly where I'm at! ;)


That's all good info. In hydro, things can go south pretty quick and for a lot of different reasons (PH, res temps, PPM's, etc.). To have four plants, all different strains, experience the same problem on the exact same day in kit soil would be one hell of a coincidence unless it was something environmental, like temps or RH, or possibly a bad feeding, methinks. :hmmmm:


We've all done a bad feeding once or twice......and they don't die quick and sudden at the same time.

It looks and sounds like gibberilic acid poisoning or something along those lines.
 
We've all done a bad feeding once or twice......and they don't die quick and sudden at the same time.

It looks and sounds like gibberilic acid poisoning or something along those lines.
oh, lord! you've reached for the wrong ph bottle, too?!?
 
you sleep, VERY SOUNDLY, don't you, mr dug? and he's a saint. my lovely G, could definitely be doing better for herself.
 
QUICK UPDATE - BACK ON TRACK & PICS SOON!

OK, everyone. I'm still recovering from the temporary set back but we're getting back on track and I'll start posting some regular pic updates again, soon.

I cleaned the tents and all the equipment & containers and, right now, I have four G13 Labs White Strawberries in #1's with first run soil vegging in the Mars 4' x 4' tent under the SP-250's and two G13 Pineapple Express plants in #1's in the small tent vegging under the Mars Reflector 144.

I'll need to come up with one more plant for the big tent. I do have another two White Strawberries clones available but want to get something else in the mix and it's either going to be another IHG Platinum Cake or an IHG Apricot Jelly.

I'd like to run the Apricot Jelly, but I need to sex it first since it's from REG seeds, so I'm going to throw one AJ plant in my breeding cabinet today under 12/12 and, if she turns out to be female, I'll run a clone I already have as the 5th plant in the main tent. If it turns out to be male, I'll just run the PCake.

Happy Harvests!

K
 
PIC UPDATE - MEET THE NEW CREW

The IHG Apricot Jelly turned out to be another Male. I've popped a bunch of their REG seeds and have only gotten males, so far! :(

But, I was anxious to run the Platinum Cake, anyways, so I up-potted that girl to a #1 and put her in the middle (right now, but will likely change later) of the four G13 White Strawberries:



Here's the PCake:



And, here are the four White Strawberries:





Not much to report. Usually, I have more mature plants ready but the last unexpected disaster set me back quite a bit and these will be vegging for probably another month, or so.

I did not add Vulx to the #1's but, when I up-pot, I will add it to two of the White Strawberries so we can test two with and two without.

Happy Harvests!

K
 
The platinum cake will be a winner!
The PCake, is one of my top two strains, IMHO, as far as quality. It was a low producer the first time I grew her. It was in the small tent and I could see she has some wide internode distances. She produces a nice bud at each node, but just doesn't fill in the space in between. Quality and appearance-wise, though, it's a real winner! :thumb:
 
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