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I feel like I need to Post something about THIS.
PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT WITH NAMES OR NEGATIVE COMMENTS ON THIS THREAD I WILL ASK FOR THEM TO BE REMOVED.
This is a delicate subject an I dont want anyone crossing the line and getting in trouble. You can PM me or make general generic comments only please. I will not give you names on individuals at this time. Maybe never. So dont ask. Use your brain and read around and it is obvious.
When this story came down the wire, I was vey upset. Our safety and amenity are paramount here. I did as much research as I culd to get to the bottom of this story. I recieved, and gave PM's to members and mods.
People made attempts to persuade me into taking the offenders side. But I am a skeptical individual. I continued to claw for answers and now that link provides enough 'closure' tothe stuation that I think we all need to read it carefully.
Th Following is OPINION based on facts aquired from PM's, as well as closely monitoring some members activities.
There are many memebers to this site that use this place as a tool for self promotion and to align themselves with Sponsors for free goods and 'sponsorships'. I have no problem with Capitolism at its core, but it seems to always lead to Curruption. And I believe the same is very much happening here as well.
pecifically from the members who get too involved with thier attempts at self promotion and blindly sticking by sponsors and not this site. 420 went above and beyond to distance themselves from this situation and PROVIDE SECURITY for its members.
Yet Some members are very upset because ofthe issues. They refuse to accept that 420 was right from the beggining. These members are afraid of losing 'sponsorships' and free goods to the point of being a mouthpiece for a company that is OBVIOUSLY shady under pressure. And thats being very very nice.
Of all the members who have laid down with this shady company, I have seen only one admit he was worng. THAT SHOULD RAISE RED FLAGS FOR ANYONE WORRIED ABOUT THIER OWN SECURITY.
There is also speculatin of members leaving over this situation. If self preservtion and free goodies are your driving force, my Opinion is 'dont let the door hit you on the way out'. This is a place of advocacy, helping teach others, and peace. Anyone who doesnt care about others PRIVACY and SAFETY is a liability at minimum.
Ive never had a problem with members using thier grows to help themselves. Finicially or with goodies. But ENDANGERING peopls safety by REGURGATATING LIES is completly wreckless behavior.
People who do not live where you live DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR PRIVACY CONCERNS. Some countries have very lax laws regarding beans and mmj, others are extrememly rigid with Big Brother looking for a reason to come get you. Dont let someone else jeopardize your safety!
In closing, I am taking a risk just posting this. Im going to piss some people off. Maybe both sides to be honest. But Im about transaprency and 'doing the right thing'. I believe 420 did everything they could (some would argue a little overboard) to protect our safety and continues to do so. I believe some were Lied to by the offender and choice to blindly believe him. I would be quick to forgive if only the members who helped spread the propaganda would admit fault and apoligize. After all they were lied to as well. But only one has so far.
Anyone who posts regarding this is taking a risk that a Mod will delete your post or worse ifyou cross the line. Im going to self report this Post and allow the moderators to decide if it can stay or not. If I have crossed the line I apoligize but my conscience needed to say something about the situation.
Good Weed everyone.
PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT WITH NAMES OR NEGATIVE COMMENTS ON THIS THREAD I WILL ASK FOR THEM TO BE REMOVED.
This is a delicate subject an I dont want anyone crossing the line and getting in trouble. You can PM me or make general generic comments only please. I will not give you names on individuals at this time. Maybe never. So dont ask. Use your brain and read around and it is obvious.
When this story came down the wire, I was vey upset. Our safety and amenity are paramount here. I did as much research as I culd to get to the bottom of this story. I recieved, and gave PM's to members and mods.
People made attempts to persuade me into taking the offenders side. But I am a skeptical individual. I continued to claw for answers and now that link provides enough 'closure' tothe stuation that I think we all need to read it carefully.
Th Following is OPINION based on facts aquired from PM's, as well as closely monitoring some members activities.
There are many memebers to this site that use this place as a tool for self promotion and to align themselves with Sponsors for free goods and 'sponsorships'. I have no problem with Capitolism at its core, but it seems to always lead to Curruption. And I believe the same is very much happening here as well.
pecifically from the members who get too involved with thier attempts at self promotion and blindly sticking by sponsors and not this site. 420 went above and beyond to distance themselves from this situation and PROVIDE SECURITY for its members.
Yet Some members are very upset because ofthe issues. They refuse to accept that 420 was right from the beggining. These members are afraid of losing 'sponsorships' and free goods to the point of being a mouthpiece for a company that is OBVIOUSLY shady under pressure. And thats being very very nice.
Of all the members who have laid down with this shady company, I have seen only one admit he was worng. THAT SHOULD RAISE RED FLAGS FOR ANYONE WORRIED ABOUT THIER OWN SECURITY.
There is also speculatin of members leaving over this situation. If self preservtion and free goodies are your driving force, my Opinion is 'dont let the door hit you on the way out'. This is a place of advocacy, helping teach others, and peace. Anyone who doesnt care about others PRIVACY and SAFETY is a liability at minimum.
Ive never had a problem with members using thier grows to help themselves. Finicially or with goodies. But ENDANGERING peopls safety by REGURGATATING LIES is completly wreckless behavior.
People who do not live where you live DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR PRIVACY CONCERNS. Some countries have very lax laws regarding beans and mmj, others are extrememly rigid with Big Brother looking for a reason to come get you. Dont let someone else jeopardize your safety!
In closing, I am taking a risk just posting this. Im going to piss some people off. Maybe both sides to be honest. But Im about transaprency and 'doing the right thing'. I believe 420 did everything they could (some would argue a little overboard) to protect our safety and continues to do so. I believe some were Lied to by the offender and choice to blindly believe him. I would be quick to forgive if only the members who helped spread the propaganda would admit fault and apoligize. After all they were lied to as well. But only one has so far.
Anyone who posts regarding this is taking a risk that a Mod will delete your post or worse ifyou cross the line. Im going to self report this Post and allow the moderators to decide if it can stay or not. If I have crossed the line I apoligize but my conscience needed to say something about the situation.
Good Weed everyone.
Sounds kinda complicaytered 
Im glad I didnt cull them when they turned crazy color. I used the Spimp leaf health technique of looking at light thru the bottom of the leaf.Light was shining thru so I left them. 
