Spimps NLxBB Auto Micro CFL's 2013

plants are growing quick, everything looks good,

here is my take on the fem seeds and hermies,

when i first tried making fem seeds from hermie pollen i failed, i kept reading that hermie pollen produces fem seeds, so i got a fem plant early in flower and gave it plenty of light and dark shock until it went hermie, i collected the pollen and also let the plant self polinate then put it back into flower, i put the pollen on another fem on a few buds, after i got the seeds i grew both sets out and both sets of seeds grow and went hermie at around the same time i forced the plant i got pollen from to go hermie, plus all seeds where not fems, id say about 1/4 where male, i grew out about 10,

so i read more about fem pollen and found out that the late pollen after the plant has flowered is what produces fem seeds, so if i went fem seeds i now leave the plant in flower for an extra few weeks, this then forces the plant to grow bananas, when these open they release a small amount of pollen, not as much as a regular male flower like the one shown in your pic above,

so its not much pollen but it does produce fem seeds,

is their a reason why yours has gone hermie, is their any light leaking in during the dark hours, is it getting to much nutes, is it over watered etc etc, any of this will cause plants to go hermie if they have a high hermie % in them, some strains hermie with very little stress and others just wont go hermie no matter what,

at the minute i got a purple cheese auto growing, i put some pollen i saved from my last fem that i left in flower to long on one of the buds to give me fem seeds, and i used male pollen from a male plant on other buds to give me some regular seeds to work with,

ive not tried using pollen from a plant that goes hermie on its own early in flower, due to me growing hermie plants with my last forced hermie pollen i have not gone down that root, instead i only use the late flowering treatment, this so far has given more pure fem seeds with no bad hermie traits,

i know growers do force hermie to produce fem seeds, look at that silver solution you use to force a fem to hermie, that badly stresses the plant and forces it to go hermie but that pollen does produce fem seeds,

but as yours is hermie early on this means the pollen sacs will be the round male pollen type sacs, these are full of pollen and release a lot, one of these opening near flowering plants will turn the whole room to seed,

if you wanted to collect pollen you could cut them pollen sacs off and collect them in as mall tub and leave them to dry out, they will then open and you will have pollen for future use,

it just depends what you actually wanted to do, but you wont see all the pollen sacs, some will be well hidden and will open without you knowing, no matter how often you check you will always miss some as they grow inside buds, under leaves and at nodes, some are very hard to find until they open up and then you see pollen on leaves below the pollen sac,

but it is possible to make fem seeds from the pollen that the plant produces at the end of flower, the plant does this to make sure it reproduces, its a sort of back up feature for the plant, it will reproduce if it gets pollen from a male or has to use its own pollen, either way the plant will live on and continue to grow year after year outdoors even with no males as long as the flowering plant is not harvested to early
 
Thanks for the info sir. Really good stuff. Very interesting about whenthego herm and how that effect seed rate.

As for why?? Ya I have a pretty good idea why. Hello, my name is Spimp. :)
The area where it formed is basically on the verge of breaking. Its not going too :wood: but i took a barely LST'd auto and smashed her with a screen. :) she is twisted and going crazy. I also over nuted her with N. I shoulda stuck w/ 1T a gallon and not bumped up. My ghetto box is also not 100% light proof. Dont get me wrong, no direct light enters the plant, but some indirect light leaks happen. Very minor. I havnt seen any more, but obviously if I do Ill let you guys know. Considering I grew two bagseed photo's with exact same conditions and no herm's, Im not gonna stress out too mch yet over it. Actually the Photo's had way worse conditions.I did an erratic defol and mega OD of nutes with them. :hmmmm: his seed is a Freebie and Im kina using it as my benchmark if you will. So even 1g oftasty goodnees, but knowledge to grow my Blue an Transsiberian, will be a crazy success! ;)
Any imput is ALWAYS appreciated. From anyone btw.
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Gotta go to work, but heres a couple pics to entertain you. :):) Is there such a thing as growth stress?? The first pic is about where I found the male flower.
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GOOD WEED EVERYONE!!
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happy Friedday Spimp:)
 
I gave em a "mini-flush" last night. I wasnt super happy by the NLxBB color. Pretty dark leaves and I could tell it was 99% from too much N. Not death levels, but not optimum for sure. I gotta remember totake them out of the grow box every few days and look at em in a different light.
My mini-flush was basically ph'd water. Flushed with enough that I got really good runoff. I usually water like 1/2 gall eac or so and I ran about 1 gallon throught them. My GF bought these pots and they are kinda wierd in a cool way. They are meant t be watered from the bottom. All the corners have watering holes so i fludhed then poured out, flushed then poured out. They are supposed to make it real hard to over water. So far i like em. :)
They didn wilt from the flush which is kinda wierd. :hmmmm: Maybe they did last night but this morning they were perky again.
I read a couple of interesting things yesterday.
1) too much nitrogen can cause the plants to become weak.They dont build the 'infrastructure" up as much so the wilt easier if they get too much N.
2) Roots can absorb nutes from 1/2" away. Seems they use ions to suck in the nutes.
I found those interesting and thought I would share.
Hope everyone has a bong loaded for the weekend!!! :)
 
I gave em a "mini-flush" last night. I wasnt super happy by the NLxBB color. Pretty dark leaves and I could tell it was 99% from too much N. Not death levels, but not optimum for sure. I gotta remember totake them out of the grow box every few days and look at em in a different light.
My mini-flush was basically ph'd water. Flushed with enough that I got really good runoff. I usually water like 1/2 gall eac or so and I ran about 1 gallon throught them. My GF bought these pots and they are kinda wierd in a cool way. They are meant t be watered from the bottom. All the corners have watering holes so i fludhed then poured out, flushed then poured out. They are supposed to make it real hard to over water. So far i like em. :)
They didn wilt from the flush which is kinda wierd. :hmmmm: Maybe they did last night but this morning they were perky again.
I read a couple of interesting things yesterday.
1) too much nitrogen can cause the plants to become weak.They dont build the 'infrastructure" up as much so the wilt easier if they get too much N.
2) Roots can absorb nutes from 1/2" away. Seems they use ions to suck in the nutes.
I found those interesting and thought I would share.
Hope everyone has a bong loaded for the weekend!!! :)

Nice job Spimp! Putting some knowledge to work from your last grow I see. The evolution begins, +reps
 
Good to know, thanks for the info. The plants are looking nice. :bravo:

Thanks. I found those both to be interesting chunks of info. :)

Nice job Spimp! Putting some knowledge to work from your last grow I see. The evolution begins, +reps

Thanks. :Namaste:
Im coming along. Still got some years to put in.
Im never gonna be a straight by the book grower, but if I was straight by the book, I wouldnt have found MJ. :)
 
nice info my friend,

to much N really does stunt growth, leaves will turn to claws, growth will slow right down, flushing should only be done as a last resort, but if your plants where suffering then it needed doing, just rememer you took everything out the soil so you need to put something back in else the plant will have no nutrients to take in,

watering from the bottom is a good option, it forces the roots to grow to search for water, more roots means more growth so its all good,

soil is an excellent buffer so ph issues are less of a problem in soil and nutrient problems are less of an issue to some extent, but to much N really does cause huge problems, i paid top price for some compost and it friend my seedlings and when i transplanted my plants leaves turned to claws, so clearly to much N in that top price soil, so im back to the cheap stuff and the plants seem to love it,

nice node spacing on that plant, very nice, when its further in flower the buds will join up and give you one big bud, keep checking for male pollen sacs, you dont want one of these popping open and turning the plant to seed, they pop out anywhere, places to look will be under where the buds start growing and they often grow just below the bottom set of small leaves on each bud, these are the ones that you usually miss as the leaves and buds hide them, so you may need to pull some of the small buds away from the branch a bit so you can get a close look at the stem of the bud,
 
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