Spimps NLxBB Auto Micro CFL's 2013

[Spimp]

The two lower branches have been taking off. I plan on doing some additional topping and some lst as you suggest. Since those new autos just popped, Im gonna veg her at aleast another 30 days under 17-7ish lights then probably switch to 12-12 for the flower portion of the autos and see if I can get more weight on them. F'ing up the second run of autos messed up some data I was gonna try but oh well. Learned a lesson or 2 so its all good.

 

[dankdragon26]

like you told me Spimp, as long as you learned something, even a dead plant is not a waste.

 

[donpaul.p]

its all about the learning, each grow i learn something new, trying to produce my own strains is a big learning curve, theirs only so much reading you can do and the rest you learn along the way.

i know next time round ill grow a lot less plants, i can just grow 4 plants and fill my room, so ill cut right back and go with 4 plants then the dwc, im sure i can hit the same yields, my plants seem to be growing much quicker this time and im pretty sure its because im giving them a lot less water.

 

[Richard Richardson]

Poor Little Gitmo

Almost giving up but not.

Viva La Gitmo

Hi Spimps

 

[Crazycarl]

its all about the learning, each grow i learn something new, trying to produce my own strains is a big learning curve, theirs only so much reading you can do and the rest you learn along the way.

i know next time round ill grow a lot less plants, i can just grow 4 plants and fill my room, so ill cut right back and go with 4 plants then the dwc, im sure i can hit the same yields, my plants seem to be growing much quicker this time and im pretty sure its because im giving them a lot less water.

LOL you sound like me don next time I am growing 2 at a time. My box is too packed hard to manage all my girls.


Do not give up yet Spimp if you don't see any new growth in over a week then I would consider the dump

any ways looking good and sending growing vibes your way Spimp

 

[Spimp]

KEEP YOU FINGERS CROSSED RICO!!
I gave Gitmo a repot. Completly took away all the mud/soil and repoted her in 95% perlite. Rinsed the roots with ph'd water then watered her in. 3 hours later she is already spreading her leaves a little more.
BEFORE:

AFTER:

I gave her a long pep talk before hand. Went something like this--

We need you now Gitmo. I know its been rough, but that's why I choice you. Your not some punk azz auto bragging about being 'new' and 'easy'. Your a Photo. And Photos are what built this industry. You are part of something bigger than both of us. A lifestyle, a community, a healer. Now is your time Gitmo...
Now I know I dont have the softest hands yet, but my heart is thinking only of you. We gotta do this thing together and together we will prevail. Be strong Gitmo. I need your resience now more than ever. Die like a lion or live like a lamb? The choice is yours Gitmo...

 

[Richard Richardson]

I'm very impressed, Spimp Well done.
I know the pic is from a different angle, but she does look almost perky

Fingers are crossed

 

[Spimp]

Sorry about the angle. In 'real' life she looks more perkyish.

Riddle me this Rico-man: If the top I cut looks 99% the same, is that a good sign? Is a few days enough to see 'death' of a clone?

 

[B A R]

DAMN GOOD question!

 

[Spimp]

Sup Reg? Hows the urban grow coming along sir?

 

[B A R]

Just water & watch... Water & watch. I once read someone saying something similar to "If there's no problems it makes for a boring grow". Bore me to death!

 

[Spimp]

How the clone after defol? Perkier?

 

[B A R]

The same.

 

[donpaul.p]

what soil was you using before, i know you are not over watering as the leaves would look puffed up and wrinkled if you was over watering, if the N was to high then the leaves would be clawing and curling down at the edges, so the N is not to high in the soil.

was the soil really compact and squashed together, im thinking if the roots was getting enough oxygen or not, some compost just clog together if you water to quick, so when my seedlings are growing i just use a spray bottle and give the top of the soil a good spray and that soaks into the soil without filling the voids in the soil, watering with a jug or bottle tends to make the water run through the soil and this clogs the channels and stops oxygen getting to the roots, i know by me letting my plants go longer without water has really paid off, ive never had plants grow this quick before, my room is full from wall to wall, ive only just flipped 12-12 as well, so really need to do some training to keep the plants from getting to crowded,

the light colour of the leaves suggest a lack of N, but if the soil/compost was new then it should easily support the plant for a couple of weeks in a small pot and another couple of weeks after transplant, my plants have gone through the whole of veg this time with no nutrients, the only plants ive given nutrients to is the plants that im growing in the same pots as plants ive harvested, i use my soil twice then bin it, i find its good for 2 grows and thats about it, i know some growers use new soil each grow but i cut the plant off at soil level at harvest and pull the soil out into big tubs and mix it all up so its not clumped together, i then add bone meal and bat guano and its good for the next grow then, not tried it 3 times as im thinking it would be the same as growing in perlite as the soil would be pretty much dead 3rd time round.

so im wondering if maybe your soil temps are a tad to high, roots really suffer when temps get a bit on the high side at root level, hydro and dwc grows suffer with this more and also outdoor plants in pots suffer more, but indoor plants in small pots can also suffer as the light is constantly shining on the pot and slowly heats the soil up, my dwc does the same, but using a piece of card on top of the res keeps the light off and ive not had any temp issues since, i had root rot before but now its been all good,

the others could be light bleaching, my hps does this if i start seedlings under the hps, even some cfls will cause light bleaching and it looks pretty much the same as whats going on with your plant, if i start seedlings under the hps and their less than 1ft from the light then the leaves bleach and turn yellow then die, it must just be to bright for the plants, the same thing happens if you put indoor plants outdoors in direct sunlight, some growers start plants indoors and then when its hot outside they move their plants outside and they die, they didnt know they had to harden their plants by giving them 1 hour the first day and giving them longer outdoors each day until their hardened to the sun then they can go out full time, it takes a couple of weeks to do this,

ive had cfls that cause bleaching if their to close to the plant, so i raise the light a couple of inches and once the plant has grown you can then have the light closer,

ph could also be an issue but if you got other plants growing in same medium and not having same problems then you can rule that out, but if all plants look the same then you cant rule ph problems out,

fingers crossed the perlite will work, i know GiGa is growing in just perlite so should work well, not sure on how often you water or feed using perlite as its not something i have tried yet,

 

[Richard Richardson]

Sorry about the angle. In 'real' life she looks more perkyish.

Riddle me this Rico-man: If the top I cut looks 99% the same, is that a good sign? Is a few days enough to see 'death' of a clone?

The angle was nice, just different

3 days is nothing for a clone in soil.

99% the same sounds good

A few weeks ago, I broke a lil top off one of the clone-abouts.

I stuck it straight into the soil of the plant she came from.

She survived the fall and is doing well, but still looks the same

 

[Spimp]

what soil was you using before, i know you are not over watering as the leaves would look puffed up and wrinkled if you was over watering, if the N was to high then the leaves would be clawing and curling down at the edges, so the N is not to high in the soil.

was the soil really compact and squashed together, im thinking if the roots was getting enough oxygen or not, some compost just clog together if you water to quick, so when my seedlings are growing i just use a spray bottle and give the top of the soil a good spray and that soaks into the soil without filling the voids in the soil, watering with a jug or bottle tends to make the water run through the soil and this clogs the channels and stops oxygen getting to the roots, i know by me letting my plants go longer without water has really paid off, ive never had plants grow this quick before, my room is full from wall to wall, ive only just flipped 12-12 as well, so really need to do some training to keep the plants from getting to crowded,

the light colour of the leaves suggest a lack of N, but if the soil/compost was new then it should easily support the plant for a couple of weeks in a small pot and another couple of weeks after transplant, my plants have gone through the whole of veg this time with no nutrients, the only plants ive given nutrients to is the plants that im growing in the same pots as plants ive harvested, i use my soil twice then bin it, i find its good for 2 grows and thats about it, i know some growers use new soil each grow but i cut the plant off at soil level at harvest and pull the soil out into big tubs and mix it all up so its not clumped together, i then add bone meal and bat guano and its good for the next grow then, not tried it 3 times as im thinking it would be the same as growing in perlite as the soil would be pretty much dead 3rd time round.

so im wondering if maybe your soil temps are a tad to high, roots really suffer when temps get a bit on the high side at root level, hydro and dwc grows suffer with this more and also outdoor plants in pots suffer more, but indoor plants in small pots can also suffer as the light is constantly shining on the pot and slowly heats the soil up, my dwc does the same, but using a piece of card on top of the res keeps the light off and ive not had any temp issues since, i had root rot before but now its been all good,

the others could be light bleaching, my hps does this if i start seedlings under the hps, even some cfls will cause light bleaching and it looks pretty much the same as whats going on with your plant, if i start seedlings under the hps and their less than 1ft from the light then the leaves bleach and turn yellow then die, it must just be to bright for the plants, the same thing happens if you put indoor plants outdoors in direct sunlight, some growers start plants indoors and then when its hot outside they move their plants outside and they die, they didnt know they had to harden their plants by giving them 1 hour the first day and giving them longer outdoors each day until their hardened to the sun then they can go out full time, it takes a couple of weeks to do this,

ive had cfls that cause bleaching if their to close to the plant, so i raise the light a couple of inches and once the plant has grown you can then have the light closer,

ph could also be an issue but if you got other plants growing in same medium and not having same problems then you can rule that out, but if all plants look the same then you cant rule ph problems out,

fingers crossed the perlite will work, i know GiGa is growing in just perlite so should work well, not sure on how often you water or feed using perlite as its not something i have tried yet,

Its a enexpensive soil I got at wallys store. I always check the NPK's and try to get the one with the least. Its a weird soil cause its woodsy but compacts. It was compacted and like dense mud, Not as bad as the autos was when I repotted her.

Where I f'd up was I had always transplanted into bigger pots but this time I started them in larg containers. A combination of me watering the 'pot', not the plant and forgeting to open the drain holes on an while watering heavy was the problem. The middle was 2/3 compact mud when I repotted the first. Figured Id take a chance and see what happens if they go from no root zone oxygen, to max.


Sir Rico I had thought they could take awhile. I am only opening it for few mins about 4 times a day. Her lid has perpetual mist on it. The soil looks damp but not soaked. I think thats about all I can do right? oh she is on 17-7 now. Maybe I should start letting her breath a touch more each day?

@dp It was 15 days between my last water of the auto and my repot. still compacted at the core 1/4.

 

[Spimp]

SMOKE REPORT:
(picture edited)
17 days since chop
Smell: 5.5 out of 10
Taste: 6.5
Effect: 7.25
Duraion: ?

Smell is very 'tea' ish until broken up. Then a citrusy smell. Taste better than it smells, but a slight sting on big rips. Hopefully this cures out. Very stoney. ANTI RACEY. Im sinking in my chair right now. My kinda smoke. Indetermined how long it last. Ill report back if I dont zone out on some journals

 

[donpaul.p]

damn thats some nice looking bud, i should have my nug jar tomorrow for my own top shelf bud,

if your having problems with the soil going muddy and compacted then its not worth using mate, i get mine from wallmart but its called asda over here, they sell big bags for about £2 or $3.50 ish depending on the exchange, its not got wood in it and it dont compact down either, chances are your roots are just getting smothered and the lack of oxygen is causing you problems, maybe if you mixed it 50/50 with perlite then it might be ok, but for the price of a bag of compost you would be better of using a different brand, i tried paying £20 for a bag of compost and only a small bag at that, all my seedlings died and when i transplanted into a bigger pot and into this new compost my leaves just like claws and plant nearly died so clearly that compost was way to hot in the N that i needed,

with the clones i usually have mine root within 7 to 10 days, but some strains can take longer and anything up to 3 weeks, as long as the dome is keeping the humidity high then it should root, the soil needs to be just kept damp, usually fresh out the bag is all it needs, i dont water my clones as the roots need to grow to search for the water, so all i do is mist the clone once or twice a day then spray inside the dome, when i take the dome off its only off for 1min at a time as if its any longer the leaves start to wilt,

ive only had 1 strain that wouldnt root so i had to use air layering which works every time if you get it right as you root the clone while its still growing on the plant,
usually you wont notice any difference with the clone for at least a week or 2 so leave the dome on until the clone has clearly grown a new node and you can see new leaves growing, once you see that the dome can be left off, at first i had problems as the soil was to wet for the roots to grow, so now when i take clones i either use compost strait out the bag as it has some moisture in it so is enough until the clones have rooted, or if the soil is dry then i give it a few sprays with a water bottle and let it soak in for about 30min before putting the cutting in and i find that keeps it damp enough for the roots to grow without it been to wet,

the dome should keep the soil moist or if it does dry out a tad then just give it a couple of sprays, dont pour water on to it as it only needs to be slightly damp for roots to grow, if you use rooting gel then i poke the hole in the soil with a match or what ever then drip a small drip of rooting gel in the hole, then when i take the clone i cut it off the plant then scrape the bottom of the stem all the way around with a sharp knife, then i let it sit in the gel for about 20 to 30 seconds before i put it in the soil,

 

[dankdragon26]

Spimp, one kush popped her tail, will be planting tomorrow... any advice?

 

[alex801]

I want to see the pik