Skybound's Journal

Good to have a day off to enjoy the fruits of our labours. And such fruits your labour’s have borne! Hope your having a nice day skyman.
 
Thanks for the season greetings, I hope all y'all had swell days with your families.

Me, I'm just trying to get out of this awful year alive and what better way to finalize a fairly long losing streak of low yield chop after low yield chop than to chop this big beast? Though I just harvested the most pitiful plants that has ever been in all of the history of humans growing cannabis, I still feel good knowing that the extreme let down feeling those will undoubtedly leave me with will be short lived knowing I am taking this behemoth down in 6 days. After her I do have a short 2 week window to endure before the "one a week" regime begins, but I could even shave a few days to get that started even sooner. It's like a bunch of bad feelings mixed with immense optimism that itself is rooted in steady planning, reinvestment, sacrifice, construction and implementation. The mix of emotions I've been having these past few weeks is both heavy and light, condemning and reassuring. If it's not evident, I'm very eager to be in good fortunes again.

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Once that monster is gone, I can lower the HID and get better lumens to the plant directly below, but more out to the plants that are rotated around the outside for 8 weeks. I believe then my yields will slightly increase which will definitely make me a happy camper again.
 
Skybound said:
Though I just harvested the most pitiful plants that has ever been in all of the history of humans growing cannabis.
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I don't know about that. My 1st grow of 5 plants netted 3oz. That's pretty pathetic.
 
farside05 said:
I don't know about that. My 1st grow of 5 plants netted 3oz. That's pretty pathetic.
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Damn, that is a kick in the junk. How long did they veg for? These (1 plant each hanger) went no less than 6 weeks in veg, but because one's a Glue and the other an Em Dog, I know it's grower error somewhere along the lines, lol. Thankfully it only happened to this generation of plants. I estimate 3/4 oz from each, but regardless this is the worst of the worst of the worst for me, lets hope that's the end of my screw ups, but I know better.

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Skybound said:
Damn, that is a kick in the junk. How long did they veg for?
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They were Northern Lights Autos from Nirvana. No fault of the breeder, I just screwed up a lot of stuff in the learning process. In hindsight, they were under lit and under fed. I should go back and do them again as a "redemption grow".
 
Hey, Sky they needed alittle more attention paid in veg...... An extra week of veg=more come harvest...... 1-2 more toppings will triple yields.. Even on the smaller yielders like a GG4 variant. Even top them suckers a week/10 days before flowering.. Just enough time after a topping to let 1-2 leaves emerge then flip... each topping doubles yield?

But an extra week or two of veg will greatly increase yields....... Bigger is better... To big,, well depends on the girl???

I'd never know............. JK ok, too much.. I need a drink.....
 
Skybound said:
I'm inching my way there. I ran out of wire and need about 20 more feet to complete the 3rd circuit and get this room fully lit. That HID's days are numbered. I want to get a nice QB in there after the new year, but I'll need to start saving my shekels.

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Hi Sky,
Is your cool tube exhausting into the garden? Trying to remember how you had it before. I am adding a second 600W HID furnace to my flower room and planning for the temp issues next summer will bring. I do not have to control for odors so all my focus is on temp controls. What material is your wall liner? Got to have some.
 
Norcaliwood said:
Hey, Sky they needed alittle more attention paid in veg...... An extra week of veg=more come harvest...... 1-2 more toppings will triple yields.. Even on the smaller yielders like a GG4 variant. Even top them suckers a week/10 days before flowering.. Just enough time after a topping to let 1-2 leaves emerge then flip... each topping doubles yield?

But an extra week or two of veg will greatly increase yields....... Bigger is better... To big,, well depends on the girl???

I'd never know............. JK ok, too much.. I need a drink.....
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Thanks Wood! I think this was an isolated incident because I traditionally try to veg for 8-10 weeks, but in veg, I still don't keep notes so from time to time my guessing game leaves me short handed or in this case short vegged, lol. Every other plant I've put into the new bloom was already bigger coming out of veg than these were at the finish. Another thing is that once the strain matures and grows alternating nodes, topping no longer divides the auxins to double the shoots. I can snip the highest of the shoots and it will pause production at that site while the lower catch up, but that's it, there will always be a highest node to catch the auxins and take off and because I'm always growing from clone stock, topping only occurs when I start new seeds.

Maritimer said:
Hi Sky,
Is your cool tube exhausting into the garden? Trying to remember how you had it before. I am adding a second 600W HID furnace to my flower room and planning for the temp issues next summer will bring. I do not have to control for odors so all my focus is on temp controls. What material is your wall liner? Got to have some.
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Yeah, I vent this tube right into the bloom room, but only because I do intend to swap out that HID before the end of winter with a nice big QB. Back when I had my 4x4 rooms, and before I bought all the COBs, I used these 600w tubes and had to build ducting circuits to get the heat out of the bloom, but even then it was still too much to deal with in the summer. Granted, I now have a dedicated mini split AC unit for the bloom, I still plan to chuck that HID none the less and get the QB in there for better light color and more electrical efficiency. The heat is such an influential force to consider and can easily kill your productivity so great consideration must be given to address all heat buildups before you have to learn that lesson the hard way. That said, I think you should focus your shillings on getting a carbon filter and extraction fan to adequately vent your room from the highest point. It will take all of the stinky air yeah, but it will also suck off any residual heat to boot. So if you have an air circuit keeping your hood cool and isolated from your grow space, the heat that actually leaks into your bloom will be minimal.

My walls are called "Panda film" or "Black and White Poly Film". Search engines accept both phrases. I picked up a 10x100 foot roll from Amazon for like $80 and have lined my veg, and the 9x9 bloom walls and ceiling. It's reflective and blocks light from leaking. It makes the room water proof and if all the seams are taped well, it contains all the odors too. By using velcro, I also fashioned peel off doors, but then also I have bigger pieces cut to cover the entire door way as a redundancy. I like redundancies wherever I can put them.
 
Skybound said:
Granted, I now have a dedicated mini split AC unit for the bloom,
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can you tell me what you mean by mini-split AC unit? I have a wall of plywood along the back wall of the bloom room that I plan to install an old window air conditioning unit into this spring. wondering how high off the floor to put it ect.?
 
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can you tell me what you mean by mini-split AC unit? I have a wall of plywood along the back wall of the bloom room that I plan to install an old window air conditioning unit into this spring. wondering how high off the floor to put it ect.?
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because cool air falls, it's best to mount your cooling up high and let the cooled air fall onto your plants. A mini split AC system is the same as a window unit except the compressor parts are mounted to a cement slab on the side of your house and copper tubing is ran between the air handler on your wall and the compressor outside. It's a permanent mount and costs more per BTU, but the mini split nixes the need to have an open window type cavity and the coolant now only requires a 2" round hole. As I understand it, the unit can also heat in the winter months, but I didn't yet fill my unit up with refrigerant as these units ship with no coolant in the systems.

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The image is just something I found online. Mine is the cheapest lowest BTU model I could find as it only need to cool a 9x9x8 space.
 
The Gorilla Glue yielded roughly 17 grams and the Em Dog and even 15 grams. It's hideous!

Moving on, here's the 3 surviving seedlings. The only Triple Cheese, neither OG Kush made it, 4 of the 5 Keralas didn't show either, but one did. And one of the 3 Incredible Bulks survived also. A lot more germed than stood up, so once again, grower error ...

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This is week 5. It looks like she's a bit P deficient as well as a bit of K def as well. I expect the K to ride the fine line to favor calcium uptake, but P shouldn't be deficient. As soon as I chop that last hydro plant, I plan to increase the foliar frequency of applications so hopefully that alives the P concerns, but if the problem persists, I'll have to adjust the drenches and/or amendments.

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Highya Sky,

I know you know this but the red petioles are a sign of low Phosphorus. I've corrected this with soft rock phosphate. Works quick, and well. Cheers
 
Oh, and I might also some lactic acid to get the "herd" making nutrients for the ladies. Cheers
 
Bode said:
Highya Sky,

I know you know this but the red petioles are a sign of low Phosphorus. I've corrected this with soft rock phosphate. Works quick, and well. Cheers
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Thanks man. FYI, I have some Cal-Phos (soft rock phosphate) in there now, maybe next batch I'll up that some. Red petioles I can tolerate to a certain degree, but the spotting on the leaves suggest that it's a bit more deficient than I'm comfortable with. So far, no other plants are spotting, but I do know I need to increase the number of foliars, this will up the P in the leaves. I also got a little too frisky with the iron sulfate which itself inhibits P when Fe is too plentiful. That's just a wave I'll need to ride out and already plant to amend future blends with less.

Bode said:
Oh, and I might also some lactic acid to get the "herd" making nutrients for the ladies. Cheers
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This is something I need to investigate deeper. I read Emilya's thread about making lactobacillus, I assume that is in the same arena as lactic acids? As is, I replenish my herds with Recharge and Great White during transplants, but can always use more. I was looking to get Bokashi for recooking soil between runs.
 
Yeah, it's all the same - lactic acid, lactobacillus serum, just different names. I read an article where the author grew a cannabis plant with just the serum to give the plants what they needed. Weird, I know, but some are seriously experimenting with the stuff. I use it a lot to spray my outdoor plants dripping wet before a rainy spell in the fall to deter botrytis. It worked great! I talked to another lady who does the same thing. How cool is that? Cheers
 
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