SIP Club - Getting Hydro/Coco Results In A Soil Based Medium

[TequilaSIPr]

One of the bad things about F1 beans, you just never know what kind of freak you're going to end up with.
I made the decision this morning to RIP "rest in peace" this one and move on. I don't mind growing F1's it's actually nice not knowing what to expect, but I really want to know what the SIP will do for me.
I put a Dosi Zookies auto in for a soak so I have something more stable to work with.
When the plan changes, change the plan I guess.
I'll get back to it when I have something to look at..
Let's see what happens

I was looking for some f1’s for my next run they said f1’s have hybrid vigor that looks like my overwatered plant good luck

 

[Bud Bokashi]

I was looking for some f1’s for my next run they said f1’s have hybrid vigor that looks like my overwatered plant good luck

I'm not killing it, I'm going to transplant it in a pot, and put the auto in the SIP.
I'm going to see what kind of freak she turns out to be.
Sometimes ugly turns beautiful.

 

[ReservoirDog]

And sometimes we realize what we thought was ugly, was beautiful all along. I’m imperfect and make mistakes like this.

Major (major) Text Wall Ahead: Topic, feeding worms in a way such that no other fertile additive but their castings may be used to bring cannabis to harvest, mixed only with peat/perlite (or other neutral mediums like coco I expect but have not tried. )

I have not yet tested full Sativas, only Indicas. If anyone wants to chuck me some sweet Sativa seeds, I’ll get on that, like, yesterday, and raise them with the power of worms water and the internet!

The concept really can be thought of as using worms to cook your supersoil ingredients.

My ingredient Choices, if I’m not following dogma (something that I have no issues with outside of availability, sustainability and price) are able to range and differ from the common soil lists now because I’m enzymatically composting the ingredients, not literally cooking them with compost heat. This means more of nutrients or other beneficial substances in total survive the process but also in diversity. Meaning your getting 10 sources for many nutrients now and all along the subtlety curve too.

Enzymatic composting is a cold process, even inside a worm, by our important definitions. If that were the only benefit it would be worth exploring, but wait, there’s more! You guessed it, micro-life! That’s what all worm castings are commonly known and treasured by all gardeners for.

But wait! Yup. There’s still more!

I’m reliably told that as the item of choice makes its way down the worms “gut” (its technically not a gut, but this is not germane here) it becomes coated in a sheath of Uber-soluble calcium carbonate that plants reliably shoot their load over, they love it so much. Prolly b/c it is packed with bacteria, fungi and other micro forms of life that have a super-high incidence rate of being associated with the very best outcomes if present and living harmoniously in a plants root system.


I’m gonna give the full list of what I feed the worms and describe my experiences of feeding them, how I do and the like…. In a very soon, like today, part 2.

 

[ReservoirDog]

Like I said, I thought I’d drop my Red Wiggler Super-Diet and feeding methods and specific list of current, best-so-far ingredients and where I get’m from. Anyone ever wants to talk about replacements for indiv items or whatev, we can do that at your leisure.

So, a few more things to help you before I drop the list in its own, unshackled post…

I Dunno that this’ll be bookmark-material, but for the vermi-curious it’ll show what Olympic-levels of diet attention can do to make Olympics-worthy worm dung. This shit (literally) literally will get you from day 1 to harvest, full stop. And those are all the claims I’m prepared to make, verify as means permit, and swear to under oath. All else are my impressions, even if my language sounds pretty self-sure.

Yes, another RD text wall. They’re not going anywhere so long as I’m breathing folks, but it’s all voluntary. I’ve got Mebbe one or two good worm related pics but it hasn’t got much of my my attention as a visual subject to date. I shall try to amend that if these Castings can reliably not just get it done but show true Superpowers. Why? Well, because aside from being cis Hetro most the time I’m interested in massive Brix, and kind bud.

So the idea here is to create what the synthetic fertilizers call an, “all in one” fertilizer with slow release attributes but that also can be amended throughout grow via top-feed, but to have it be not only 100% organic, but to also contain the priceless microlife types that we really want in our organic SIPs (works everywhere else too) for the max health, that means no pest pressure, which ensures flavour, yield and potency. Can I get an Amen?

As a side note for those into KNF and Jadam and are already aware of super-accumulator plant species and their local micro flora/fauna/fungi - your concoctions can be used in place of the plants I’m using for specific nutrients, PgH’s, whatev… and I recommend using straight from the storage container with no water added. Not that water’s bad, and if you want to get to the consistency by adding a KNF or Jadam brew in place of water, go for it. I haven’t tried them all by any means, and you will want to avoid anything with HEAVY sulphuric content, like Jadam pesticides, but otherwise I think, from my still limited experience (24mos), you’ll be fine and I think it’s an excellent idea, so I have been doing just that. I will give everything in listed form for you…

 

[Azimuth]

Like I said, I thought I’d drop my Red Wiggler Super-Diet and feeding methods and specific list of current, best-so-far ingredients and where I get’m from. Anyone ever wants to talk about replacements for indiv items or whatev, we can do that at your leisure.

So, a few more things to help you before I drop the list in its own, unshackled post…

I Dunno that this’ll be bookmark-material, but for the vermi-curious it’ll show what Olympic-levels of diet attention can do to make Olympics-worthy worm dung. This shit (literally) literally will get you from day 1 to harvest, full stop. And those are all the claims I’m prepared to make, verify as means permit, and swear to under oath. All else are my impressions, even if my language sounds pretty self-sure.

Yes, another RD text wall. They’re not going anywhere so long as I’m breathing folks, but it’s all voluntary. I’ve got Mebbe one or two good worm related pics but it hasn’t got much of my my attention as a visual subject to date. I shall try to amend that if these Castings can reliably not just get it done but show true Superpowers. Why? Well, because aside from being cis Hetro most the time I’m interested in massive Brix, and kind bud.

So the idea here is to create what the synthetic fertilizers call an, “all in one” fertilizer with slow release attributes but that also can be amended throughout grow via top-feed, but to have it be not only 100% organic, but to also contain the priceless microlife types that we really want in our organic SIPs (works everywhere else too) for the max health, that means no pest pressure, which ensures flavour, yield and potency. Can I get an Amen?

As a side note for those into KNF and Jadam and are already aware of super-accumulator plant species and their local micro flora/fauna/fungi - your concoctions can be used in place of the plants I’m using for specific nutrients, PgH’s, whatev… and I recommend using straight from the storage container with no water added. Not that water’s bad, and if you want to get to the consistency by adding a KNF or Jadam brew in place of water, go for it. I haven’t tried them all by any means, and you will want to avoid anything with HEAVY sulphuric content, like Jadam pesticides, but otherwise I think, from my still limited experience (24mos), you’ll be fine and I think it’s an excellent idea, so I have been doing just that. I will give everything in listed form for you…

Thanks for these thoughts, RD. I'm doing similar things with my castings though I suspect my list of inputs is shorter than your's. I'm also running the inputs (or plan to next season) through my compost pile and am now using the finished compost in place of CSPM.

But I also run some of that compost through the worm bins so I figure I've got the nutrients in various stages of breakdown/availability.

Looking forward to your list.

 

[StoneOtter]

I’m also having this issue with one of my Super-castings SIP plants. Yellowing, then necrosis in that central vein is showing up on the ones under the most light, fan leaves only. Definitely an issue. Maybe not enough Promix for buffering in these 1/3 castings plants. I’ve been adding soluble limestone to the teas and refreshing the bennies a lot. Maybe it just needs some time away from the farmer, stranger things…

The other day I had already decided to stop growing during the cancer treatment, and I was minutes from taking everything down and into the compost when I decided I wanted to see if it would be possible to keep growing through my cancer treatments/surgery by leveraging the power and potential of SIPs. I’m installing a camera I can access from the hospital via my phone and using the big 6-gal reservoir SIPs. The climate is wifi controlled too, though not near as good as the newest Vivosun tech or the latest AC Infinity unit - that stuff is a major step forward. Still, I can monitor, change settings and access a continual log of data. Maybe it’s possible, we’re gonna find out together, “Can you grow weed while you are treated for esophageal cancer?”

See, what really happened is that, since I setup these tents a couple years ago I haven’t consumed much of all the weed I grow. I give it away and use it to barter for services like home repair and maintenance. I was only enjoying getting high only half the times I did, which wasn’t a great average so I wasn’t doin it much.

Then the cancer hit, and omg the stuff seems designed especially for helping you get through all of the hardships associated. I’m hauling on my homemade vape sauce all the live-long-day all of a sudden. It is helping me so much.

I have everything ready to make RSO but I lost my nerve yesterday. I’ll get on to it. I have a surgery Thursday to put in a feeding tube, so I’ll test my in-tent camera while I’m there a few days, and we’ll just keep on trying to grow weed through all this because it is suddenly my favourite thing, ever, and SIPs might just be what makes it possible. Stay tuned!

My SIP with auto water was the easiest grow ever Dog! With your tech savvy you'll grind this out!

 

[ReservoirDog]

Thanks for these thoughts, RD. I'm doing similar things with my castings though I suspect my list of inputs is shorter than your's. I'm also running the inputs (or plan to next season) through my compost pile and am now using the finished compost in place of CSPM.

But I also run some of that compost through the worm bins so I figure I've got the nutrients in various stages of breakdown/availability.

Looking forward to your list.

Man, that’s cool what yer doing! Love to hear more details, at your leisure of course.

So interesting that your using compost this way.

Keen to hear if you already use for a plant cradle to grave this way or not yet? Not ever?

I got schooled by the Octopot eggheads re: compost overuse in SIPs; that it may sour the rez and other negative responses. If I find the email I’ll share it with you.

They noted, however that issues go down the smaller the planter and plant, for reason I can’t recall. Ugh. Sorry. I will find that for you.

It’s my ‘feeling’ that this size thing is true - that it does matter! Lol. No, I mean that you can get away with all compost, or w.h.y., In mini SIPS. Just please aerate it like a muthafuhka.

 

[ReservoirDog]

My SIP with auto water was the easiest grow ever Dog! With your tech savvy you'll grind this out!

Fraid I won’t be “grinding” anything out until next summer, best case. I can’t even put myself in the position of needing or wanting to, because merely the micro-stressors from that will go macro overnight and end me.

This is what your mind must do for its survival, when reality requires it. and when things are that simple, that uncorrupted - and incorruptible - you can have real strength there.

The enemy is in only one direction and we know what it is. We know him, deeply and implicitly. This is a soldier’s wet dream! This is the best possible scenario if, if there must be fighting, but if so a properly trained and equipped unit would snap that up off the pile so fast it’s make your nose bleed. Be sure to push the advantage , and use to max advantage to ace things so we can be the ones setting 100% of the conditions for the next engagement. This is always critical to winning and winning resoundingly.

 

[Chuckeye]

Day 82....

Cheers, eh ?

 

[Azimuth]

So interesting that your using compost this way.

Keen to hear if you already use for a plant cradle to grave this way or not yet? Not ever?

I ran my outdoor veggies with it this summer to good effect for a while. Nice green plants and good fruit set but I just incorporated the compost at the beginning and that was it. Plants eventually ran out of gas so next year I'm planning a periodic top off. I got to composting late and didn't have adequate supplies to experiment with adding more through the season.

I've also got a comparative grow going now, one with compost, the other with coco. Same everything else. The compost plant still looks great almost 4 weeks after flip, while the coco version started yellowing right as flower began.

I got schooled by the Octopot eggheads re: compost overuse in SIPs; that it may sour the rez and other negative responses. If I find the email I’ll share it with you.

They noted, however that issues go down the smaller the planter and plant, for reason I can’t recall. Ugh. Sorry. I will find that for you.

It’s my ‘feeling’ that this size thing is true - that it does matter! Lol. No, I mean that you can get away with all compost, or w.h.y., In mini SIPS. Just please aerate it like a muthafuhka.

Interesting. I would have thought the opposite. Good thing I flower in small, 2g containers!

 

[TequilaSIPr]

Hi Sipr’s End of week 2 of 12/12 here

still waiting for the bud site explosion probably should defol again alotta feeder roots under the black tarp they like something in the topdress….i wonder should i raise my lights for more of a stretch?

 

[Bud Bokashi]

Two days soil to surface, nothing to look at but the Dosi Zookies auto is awake she's tiny but she's awake.

 

[BoohdahLovah]

Hi all.

I’m hoping I can join the #SIP club with my next grow. I cut a clone of Cereal Milk a couple of days ago that I’m hoping will survive so I can put it in my brand spanking new SIP container that I built from the YouTube clip that @Azimuth posted at the beginning of this thread here.

It took me about an hour to put it all together, but I was definitely taking my sweet time.

I can’t wait to get it started and will no doubt be posting questions here as they arise. I love the results that people get with SIPs and hopefully I can get something similar. I’ll keep a journal of it when I get started to record how it goes.

 

[Azimuth]

Nice clean build, @BoohdahLovah !

 

[Absorber]

Hi all.

I’m hoping I can join the #SIP club with my next grow. I cut a clone of Cereal Milk a couple of days ago that I’m hoping will survive so I can put it in my brand spanking new SIP container that I built from the YouTube clip that @Azimuth posted at the beginning of this thread here.

It took me about an hour to put it all together, but I was definitely taking my sweet time.

I can’t wait to get it started and will no doubt be posting questions here as they arise. I love the results that people get with SIPs and hopefully I can get something similar. I’ll keep a journal of it when I get started to record how it goes.

Another Aussie welcome aboard mate

 

[BoohdahLovah]

Another Aussie welcome aboard mate

The Bunnings buckets give it away? Thanks mate.

 

[Absorber]

The Bunnings buckets give it away? Thanks mate.

Yep what are they charging for them

 

[BoohdahLovah]

Yep what are they charging for them

$8 each for the 20L buckets.

 

[Absorber]

$8 each for the 20L buckets.

Thats not too bad i got these black ones locally from a second hand recyclers for $4 each

SIP Club - Getting Hydro/Coco Results In A Soil Based Medium

Welcome to The Club, @Absorber ! Any questions as you go through build, fire away. I'd love to see what little cups you're using inside the Solo's as I've not found anything suitable so I use large perlite or hydroton in a section at the bottom of the cup around the overflow hole. These...

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[BoohdahLovah]

Thats not too bad i got these black ones locally from a second hand recyclers for $4 each

SIP Club - Getting Hydro/Coco Results In A Soil Based Medium

Welcome to The Club, @Absorber ! Any questions as you go through build, fire away. I'd love to see what little cups you're using inside the Solo's as I've not found anything suitable so I use large perlite or hydroton in a section at the bottom of the cup around the overflow hole. These...

www.420magazine.com

Yeah, wow. Your build is a bit better than mine. I’ll look into cheaper buckets because I’m thinking of building more for other plants.