Shottafire's - Bubba OG Sealed Medical Grow in Sunshine #4

Just a bit of info..
Yucca Extract, another natural organic product, is mixed into brewed Natures Own Growing System Soil Life Tea and stimulates the beneficial bacteria on plant surfaces and in the soils. Yucca's saponin action makes plant cells more permeable to nutrient and water uptake.
I'm going to say this is the reason it takes care of the gnat problem though.
Yucca liquids are 100% water-soluble and stay in solution without agitation. They will not evaporate into the air after application.
 
I think a combination of Mosquito dunks and Yucka extract as a soil drench would Yuck those Gnats up for good.
And Organically which is always a better solution.
thanks Curso.
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I got the mosquito dunks and now I am going to whole foods to try and source the yucca extract.

I really appreciate all the help you guys seriously. +++reps to all of you if I can..

Vick would you use sevin again or did you even use it?
I am trying not to use chemicals and such but I dont like the bugs feasting.

If I can I will do a picture tutorial on how I eradicate these things. Yucca and dunks.
how long should I bubble the dunks in pantyhose? will 1 puck for 5 gallons work or 1/2 a puck per 5?

more research yet I guess. I will get a picture up of the flyers tonight at 6 or so.
 
I got the mosquito dunks and now I am going to whole foods to try and source the yucca extract.

I really appreciate all the help you guys seriously. +++reps to all of you if I can..

Vick would you use sevin again or did you even use it?
I am trying not to use chemicals and such but I dont like the bugs feasting.

If I can I will do a picture tutorial on how I eradicate these things. Yucca and dunks.
how long should I bubble the dunks in pantyhose? will 1 puck for 5 gallons work or 1/2 a puck per 5?

more research yet I guess. I will get a picture up of the flyers tonight at 6 or so.

I used it because I freaked out and the "sevin" was all I had on hand.
I'm actually sorry for suggesting it to you, because I know that you're trying to stay on the organic side as much as possible.
Thanks to Curso and canna for coming to the rescue with the organic alternatives.
I would use it again if I really had to (sevin), but after reading the bottle, I would hope to have it managed organically before doing that again.
I use one dunk per 5 gallon bucket. And I let my water sit for about 3 days before using. I also have an air stone bubbling away in the same buckets to keep the water fresh and oxygenated. Change out the dunk every 2 weeks with a new one. Use a new sock, cuz they can get a little yucky if you re-use them. If you do use nylons or pantyhose to hold them in, make sure you double them up, cuz they can find there way through one layer of hose pretty easy making for a messy res. No big deal, if it goes into your medium it'll be fine. I've actually read somewhere (can't remember where) that someone just crumbled them up over the top of their medium. I just like to keep it nice and clean myself..
 
I used it because I freaked out and the "sevin" was all I had on hand.
I'm actually sorry for suggesting it to you, because I know that you're trying to stay on the organic side as much as possible.
Thanks to Curso and canna for coming to the rescue with the organic alternatives.
I would use it again if I really had to (sevin), but after reading the bottle, I would hope to have it managed organically before doing that again.
I use one dunk per 5 gallon bucket. And I let my water sit for about 3 days before using. I also have an air stone bubbling away in the same buckets to keep the water fresh and oxygenated. Change out the dunk every 2 weeks with a new one. Use a new sock, cuz they can get a little yucky if you re-use them. If you do use nylons or pantyhose to hold them in, make sure you double them up, cuz they can find there way through one layer of hose pretty easy making for a messy res. No big deal, if it goes into your medium it'll be fine. I've actually read somewhere (can't remember where) that someone just crumbled them up over the top of their medium. I just like to keep it nice and clean myself..

OK so I went to whole foods and could not find the yucca extract. I will order some online and in the meantime I will give the plants water treated with mosquito dunks. I am bummed but this is what is so fun about growing. Learning things at an accelerated rate only because I am passionate about my gardening and my plants.
 
I am bummed but this is what is so fun about growing. Learning things at an accelerated rate only because I am passionate about my gardening and my plants.

and that my friends, is what it's all about..
well said shotta, well said..
:high-five:
 
So today is 21 days from the flip but I will count today as day 14 of flower. They are just about done stretching and look to be getting a little more bulk. I could not be more happy with the room. now I must battle these f'ers to the death.

I am still not sure if these are fungus gnats or root aphids. can someone identify from the pictures?
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Here is my buckets with the dunks in them can I just bubble for 24-48 hours and then add my nutrients or should I feed then innoculate with the dunk water. Should the water be checked and adjusted for ph? not sure how to go about it.
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Battle Begins
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A few pics of the girls tonight
The three amigos
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Cropolis
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Thc good for me
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Thanks all and have a good night!
 
Lovely garden shotta been thru it all good luck with the f king pests, I had a few but garlic oil did good for me, I haven't seen much since then, but I will get some dunks soon. Just to be on the safe side, those babies are looking wonderful, looking forward to the bud porn soon, to keep me going till I have mine :cheertwo::Namaste:
 
Can someone tell me what the causes could be for the pistils all browning?

I know this question was old, but I thought it might be they were too close to the light, but if it's happening on any flowers other than the highest tops, then I don't know.

I amend diamatacious earth into my soil. If I see a problem I do a top layer as well. Does as described above with perlite. Just a little more costly and much more effective. Chops em up when they try climbing through

I use DE as a pesticide around the house. I like it because it's totally none toxic and yet will kill most bugs if they come into contact. If you get food grade you can eat it thought I wouldn't recommend it.

My understanding is it only works when it's dry. It has a very long half life(forever) so long as it stays dry. How does that work in a plant? I'm not saying it doesn't just curious how.

I've never had an issue with it being wet. Its basically sand but sharper. It has 7-54 cutting edges per granule. When a bug comes in direct contact these edges go to work cutting and ripping the exoskeleton of the intruder. It was explained to me as "barbed wire for your soil" I could be totally inaccurate, but on the two occasions there was a situation large enough to warrant laying down a top layer on top of what was already amended the problem never showed again. So I can only venture to say it works and very very well. Play sand can suffice as well but it has a tendency to pack down hard and compact the soil as well, something I try very hard to avoid.

It's sharp but it's also very porous. It will suck the moisture right out of your skin. It cuts bugs up and also drys them out. I was told it's less effective if it soaks up water. That's what my exterminator told me anyway. That's a different application though fighting different kinds of bugs. Sounds like it has worked well for you. I'll give it a shot should the need arise.

My understanding of how it works is a combination of both properties. It will 'dry out' the soft bodied pests due to it's ability to absorb many times it's own weight in water, and each little diatom crystal is a gnarly little serrated disc that will cut the pests open. For pests with a hard exoskeleton, it doesn't cut the chitin shell, but it gets into their soft joints and cuts them up there. Most insects with a hard exoskeleton, use sort of a hydraulic system internally, as opposed to our muscle systems, so when their joints get cut up by the DE, they start to 'bleed' this fluid, which gets absorbed by the DE too, and eventually they are unable to maintain their life support systems due to lack of 'hydraulic fluid'. That's how it was explained to me, and it makes sense if you look at microscope pictures of the DE and the bugs.

I have DE as well but when I research it some say yay some say nay.
One quick question should I let the soil completely dry then do a drench or treatment of DE after I feed the plants?

I've always been told that DE should be sprinkled onto soil after watering. Probably due to the water absorption property discussed above. I've never used in with MJ, but it works great for vegetable gardens!

Extremely interested in finding out more information about Yucka Extract and where to get it.
When someone mentioned it a few weeks ago when I had my delema, actually I think it was you canna!
I searched all over my area, Gardening stores, hydro shops, even Pharmacies. Nobody knew what the hell I was talking about.
The only place I haven't tried yet were Health food Stores..

hehe it's in the one place you didn't look. I've seen it at the natural foods type of stores in the supplements area. My wife has nearly everything in that section of the store :eyebrowsmile:

how long should I bubble the dunks in pantyhose? will 1 puck for 5 gallons work or 1/2 a puck per 5?

I leave mine in my res, but I'm hydro. One puck is plenty for 5g. I don't think it can over dose the water, so I see no reason to break one apart. Since you're pre-treating water for soil, why not just leave it in there all the time? So whenever you use your pre-treated water, you just refill your holding container and leave the mosquito dunk in there. Maybe you're trying to determine how big a holding capacity you need? hmmm In that case, I'll have to defer to the other soil growers on that one.

Garden looks awesome Shotta! :Namaste:
 
I know this question was old, but I thought it might be they were too close to the light, but if it's happening on any flowers other than the highest tops, then I don't know.









My understanding of how it works is a combination of both properties. It will 'dry out' the soft bodied pests due to it's ability to absorb many times it's own weight in water, and each little diatom crystal is a gnarly little serrated disc that will cut the pests open. For pests with a hard exoskeleton, it doesn't cut the chitin shell, but it gets into their soft joints and cuts them up there. Most insects with a hard exoskeleton, use sort of a hydraulic system internally, as opposed to our muscle systems, so when their joints get cut up by the DE, they start to 'bleed' this fluid, which gets absorbed by the DE too, and eventually they are unable to maintain their life support systems due to lack of 'hydraulic fluid'. That's how it was explained to me, and it makes sense if you look at microscope pictures of the DE and the bugs.



I've always been told that DE should be sprinkled onto soil after watering. Probably due to the water absorption property discussed above. I've never used in with MJ, but it works great for vegetable gardens!



hehe it's in the one place you didn't look. I've seen it at the natural foods type of stores in the supplements area. My wife has nearly everything in that section of the store :eyebrowsmile:



I leave mine in my res, but I'm hydro. One puck is plenty for 5g. I don't think it can over dose the water, so I see no reason to break one apart. Since you're pre-treating water for soil, why not just leave it in there all the time? So whenever you use your pre-treated water, you just refill your holding container and leave the mosquito dunk in there. Maybe you're trying to determine how big a holding capacity you need? hmmm In that case, I'll have to defer to the other soil growers on that one.

Garden looks awesome Shotta! :Namaste:

Thank you for that thorough response Hiker. +++reps

Can the treated water be combined with my nutrients or should I feed the treated water separately. I would research myself but I am quitebusy with my little one atm.
 
Just think of your Mosquito dunked water as your watering water.
All the dunks are doing is treating the water, so yes you can add nutrients to it.
They're not going to change PH or PPM's at all.
That picture you showed of the 2 buckets, is exactly how mine look, right down to the Home deep buckets..
One dunk per 5 gallon bucket is perfect.
What I do is have both my buckets marked with Jiffy marker on the inside in 1 gallon increments. Like giant measuring cups.
Fill both my buckets to the level I know I'm going to be watering next. Say I'm going to feed 6 gallons next time. I'd fill each bucket to the 3 gallon line. Let them bubble away with dunks in them until then.
Then when it's feeding time, I just pull the dunks out and the bubblers, squeeze, set em aside.
Add my nutrients, then PH test, PPM test, adjust accordingly. then pour one of the buckets into the other so it's topped off.
Then add my watering pump connected to wand, and feed! Add the rest of the nutrient mix to the feed bucket until you're dry.
Then rinse the buckets really well, refill to desired amounts, throw the dunks and bubblers back in. voila
And then the cycle repeats, in which 2 weeks elapses the dunks get changes out with new ones.
What I do, is keep towels over the buckets while they're bubbling just to keep shit out, and the RH somewhat contained in the surrounding area. If you can, keep your water away from your flowering room altogether. Because 2 5 gallon buckets of water bubbling away can significantly add RH to a room. That's why I keep them in a completely different room in the house. Maintaining them at a steady room temp. Roots love being fed water at 69 degrees!
If you're ever having a hard time raising RH in your veg room? throw your buckets in there and problem solved.
hope this helps!
 
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