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Wow, @7Dust2 , I don't even know where to begin.

But can't take someone calling me out taken what I said out of contexts. I never told you what to do. Nor will I'm but I did say I wouldn't listen to him . And I stand by that 100%
I guess first, I feel like I need to apologize to you because it was not my intention to "call you out." Lisa asked for advice based on what she was seeing with her plants and I offered my opinion. Your's seem to be radically different and that's fine. Neither one of us sees her plants first hand so we go by what she says and pics she posts.

Dam 2-3 gallons. What feeding a tree . . Holly crap. I never water a plant that much in my life . Soaking the crap out of it aren't ya. I got 5 gallon pots and I only give maybe 1 cup full of water. U must be drowning it watching water come out the bottom . . Note when u do that. That's to much water . And if you use cloth bags they stay wet and invites mold and sht. If stay wet all the time.. but that is me . Y'all do what you want .ur plants.. I might use a gallon of water on 5 plants a week. . As they get bigger maybe gallon and half for a week. And I'm only watering 2-3 days between watering.
I was trying to point out to her, in case it wasn't obvious, the dramatic difference in our watering styles and that she should be aware of that before taking either advice.

I know there are other growers that provide very little water like you do, and I wanted her to be aware that there were differences of opinions on watering.

So, you said you water a 5 gallon pot with a cup of water every 2-3 days. I just pointed that out in contrasting our styles. It's an important distiction, don't you think? Not sure how that constitutes me taking it out of context.

I been telling her to find what works for her. Not to just go do something someone says cause I see u on multiple people journals telling bad information. Or suggestions that ends up hurting there plants.. two matter of fact . So yeah. She need to find what works for her. Not you not me. .
We agree on this point. In fact we have both stated it in various responses. She specifically asked for help in figuring it out. If she wanted to do trial and error on her own she would do that and maybe share her observations. Instead she asked for help in figuring it out and how to correct it.

Cause tell you the truth if anyone did what you say. I guarantee their plant will lock up drown or die . And before you say one word. My plants speak for them selves.
Hmmm, I've provided multiple examples of growers doing exactly what I suggested and Shed even gave you a picture of one of Otter's plants. So, your "guarantee" seems a bit overstated.

Yep . What works for one not nessary work for another. You take ideas and find your own path.. not bark bark bark.
Again, she asked for advice, and I provided what I felt was appropriate. Others chimed in with successful growers using this exact strategy, and I provided a link to Emilya's watering thread which has been hugely successful for Em and many others who have followed that advice.

I hope I am not coming across as bark, bark, barking. I have my opinion as to what she can do to help her plants. You obviously feel differently, but leaving her hanging to figure it out on her own is not what she asked for.

Ultimately it's your grow and they're your plants so you'll have to make the call on all of this. We all are just trying to give you info that was hard won to help shorten your learning curve.
I specifically told her the same thing you did.

And people saying do this do that just gets under my skin. And most time it's wrong information. They don't know what that person done or did do. Or wanted to do. . Yeah suggest. Give ideas. If you know. But don't know stfu.
This is specifically what I have done.

Let them figure it out don't cloud their mind up cause u think your best growers in the world.
I presented the opposing views like I did specifically because I didn't want to cloud her mind, but rather be sure she was clear on why what I was suggesting was very different from what you were.

And, I've never claimed to be the best grower in the world or anything like it. We are all learning how to grow this plant better all the time. Again, she asked for advice, and I offered mine. If she wants to go a different direction that's totally fine with me. I'm not telling her what to do as you seem to suggest.

But this guys and that flip guy I seen enough on there suggestions.. I hate it too. That what I said few days ago. I getting to end of rope seeing and reading them suggestions they given.. but I'm done.

"Just hate it was on Lissa journal. She trys so hard and doing good. And wam. Someone screwing her mind up. We all learn hard way. Not one person here has not gone Thur the pain. Unless they are a botany person.. and they screw up too."


That doesn't mean she has to figure it out blindly on her own. Plenty of growers ask for advice, or thoughts on different things. I do the same. That's how we all learn.

So, again. I'll apologize if you feel I was disrespecting you in some way. That was not my intent. I was sincerely trying to be helpful to Lisa, and you and I have very different ideas as to what would be helpful.
 
Wow, @7Dust2 , I don't even know where to begin.


I guess first, I feel like I need to apologize to you because it was not my intention to "call you out." Lisa asked for advice based on what she was seeing with her plants and I offered my opinion. Your's seem to be radically different and that's fine. Neither one of us sees her plants first hand so we go by what she says and pics she posts.


I was trying to point out to her, in case it wasn't obvious, the dramatic difference in our watering styles and that she should be aware of that before taking either advice.

I know there are other growers that provide very little water like you do, and I wanted her to be aware that there were differences of opinions on watering.

So, you said you water a 5 gallon pot with a cup of water every 2-3 days. I just pointed that out in contrasting our styles. It's an important distiction, don't you think? Not sure how that constitutes me taking it out of context.


We agree on this point. In fact we have both stated it in various responses. She specifically asked for help in figuring it out. If she wanted to do trial and error on her own she would do that and maybe share her observations. Instead she asked for help in figuring it out and how to correct it.


Hmmm, I've provided multiple examples of growers doing exactly what I suggested and Shed even gave you a picture of one of Otter's plants. So, your "guarantee" seems a bit overstated.


Again, she asked for advice, and I provided what I felt was appropriate. Others chimed in with successful growers using this exact strategy, and I provided a link to Emilya's watering thread which has been hugely successful for Em and many others who have followed that advice.

I hope I am not coming across as bark, bark, barking. I have my opinion as to what she can do to help her plants. You obviously feel differently, but leaving her hanging to figure it out on her own is not what she asked for.


I specifically told her the same thing you did.


This is specifically what I have done.


I presented the opposing views like I did specifically because I didn't want to cloud her mind, but rather be sure she was clear on why what I was suggesting was very different from what you were.

And, I've never claimed to be the best grower in the world or anything like it. We are all learning how to grow this plant better all the time. Again, she asked for advice, and I offered mine. If she wants to go a different direction that's totally fine with me. I'm not telling her what to do as you seem to suggest.



"Just hate it was on Lissa journal. She trys so hard and doing good. And wam. Someone screwing her mind up. We all learn hard way. Not one person here has not gone Thur the pain. Unless they are a botany person.. and they screw up too."


That doesn't mean she has to figure it out blindly on her own. Plenty of growers ask for advice, or thoughts on different things. I do the same. That's how we all learn.

So, again. I'll apologize if you feel I was disrespecting you in some way. That was not my intent. I was sincerely trying to be helpful to Lisa, and you and I have very different ideas as to what would be helpful.
Oh I'm good.. said what I needed to and I'm good.. take alot to disrespect me . Hurt my feelings if I had some, make me mad or anything these days.. your good with me.. just needed to throw that out their. Felt like I needed to for some reason or another.. people work hard on growing these plants so I know how hard they are.. I been thru painful times. I know I do sht different than anyone here.. hell I put rocks on top of the soil . And firewood ashes. . But appreciate the comments back..and sorry that I spoke up kinda loud. But that my nature . I usually keep my mouth shut and listen more than I should but when I do say something usually kinda direct to the point. . Bad flaw I know. But I'm good
 
Todays pic! Watered and feed. The Pineapple Express in I. Flower, the blue dream still veg and the GSC well she is doing great! Moved her into her own space for now. Hoping I can keep her in there until harvest of pineapple. Then I’ll be trying to figure something out. Maybe new tent.

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Todays pic! Watered and feed. The Pineapple Express in I. Flower, the blue dream still veg and the GSC well she is doing great! Moved her into her own space for now. Hoping I can keep her in there until harvest of pineapple. Then I’ll be trying to figure something out. Maybe new tent.

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Morning Lisa. .
 
Morning everyone ! I hope everyone day is going good. I’m still stuggling with a cal/mag deficiency . I can’t seem to sort it out. I know I’m not overwatering because I have a water meter . So that’s what’s happening today. Ph is 6.4-6.8 consistently . So not sure. I just fed with cal mag yesterday and I won’t be watering or feeding for at least another week. Maybe. I purchased some Gaia green power bloom but haven’t added that yet. Just waiting to sort out my situation and for next feeding of PE. The blue dream is still in veg and it’s showing signs of cal/mag deficiency. Just not sure what I did wrong. But I’m reading g and waiting the game out..
 
Hey good morning... So I could be wrong but I have read in many places that pH should be between 5.8-6.2 for soil...so maybe your nutes are still to high and that could be the reason for continuing issue?
 
Morning everyone ! I hope everyone day is going good. I’m still stuggling with a cal/mag deficiency . I can’t seem to sort it out. I know I’m not overwatering because I have a water meter . So that’s what’s happening today. Ph is 6.4-6.8 consistently . So not sure. I just fed with cal mag yesterday and I won’t be watering or feeding for at least another week. Maybe. I purchased some Gaia green power bloom but haven’t added that yet. Just waiting to sort out my situation and for next feeding of PE. The blue dream is still in veg and it’s showing signs of cal/mag deficiency. Just not sure what I did wrong. But I’m reading g and waiting the game out..
Good morning Lisa , hope everything is good.
Your calmag are you putting it in the mix first?
Letting sit 15 minutes before adding nutrients?
Also don't use a water meter they are inaccurate and can lead to watering issues.
Also stick to exactly 6.4 in soil best ph for nutrient uptake.

Stay safe
Bill
 
Ok. AZ. For one you kept telling her they look hungry hungry and water water water . Not me I been sitting here watching for past week. And tell you the truth until I see you grow something. I would listen to you if my plants life was in the balance.. I been telling her to find what works for her. Not to just go do something someone says cause I see u on multiple people journals telling bad information. Or suggestions that ends up hurting there plants.. two matter of fact . So yeah. She need to find what works for her. Not you not me. . I told her what I do that might help in watering and chems. Cause tell you the truth if anyone did what you say. I guarantee their plant will lock up drown or die . And before you say one word. My plants speak for them selves.
Good job dust good job brother
 
I still maintain that your girls are hungry. I don't have any experience with Fox Farm Ocean Forest, but think if you are not feeding them anything other than the lobster shells, that they are not getting the balanced nutrients they need. If you are trying to grow organically, the soil mix needs to be amended with other theings besides compost, especially after the plants grow for a while as they use up whatever nutrients were once in the soil.

The additional nutes you mentioned may help with that. I think @Jon may have grown with Fox Farm soil in the past although he's moved on to coco now. Maybe he'll weigh in with his thoughts.
 
Hey good morning... So I could be wrong but I have read in many places that pH should be between 5.8-6.2 for soil...so maybe your nutes are still to high and that could be the reason for continuing issue?
I will do some research and get back to you.
 
That’s my mistake. Sorry
No, no worries. Both of those soil mixes look pretty good to start with the bat guano and worm castings and m.fungus. But as the plants grow bigger as yours have, some of those nutrients get used up and need to be replaced. Many growers topdress with additional nutrients.

7 gallon is said to be the minimum to hold all of the nutrients for a grow, and I think you're in 10's?
 
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