Scroggin In The Greenhouse Blueberry OG Kush, WW, Scooby Snacks #1

[r0am1ng st0ner]

at least you can get something the sunshine would work but if you can get ffarms that would also work well, heck a 50/50 mix might save a dollar if you are using lots and can get both

you'd be surprise how sometimes things are the same just different packaging.

Oh ya especially dirt like as long as it's been sterilized and then some good life put back it is all the same no matter what bag it's in

Yeah, the more I read the more I'm remembering. It's all this new stuff I'm not up to date on. Tech has grown ten fold in just over a decade. Sometimes I get as overwhelmed as a new grower but this hobby never goes stagnant. Always evolving.

What new stuff do you refer too?

 

[PK]

@JimJonesJr there isn't much different when you are growing outside in soil. Also, old timer tricks most times work the best and you've got pics to show case them. However, i do agree with each plant needs being differnt, but you seem to how the eye for that!

 

[JimJonesJr]

When I got busted in 07. Yeah, that happened. The big debates were auto flowering, LEDs, feminized seed, and more. Then add all the new gadgets n gizmos not to mention the plethora of new nutrients and additives. I grew from 2000-07. I was a mod in a cutting edge forum with names like BOG, Gypsy Nirvana, and many others well known today. I learned a lot from them old growers but today it's a catch up game.

 

[JimJonesJr]

@JimJonesJr there isn't much different when you are growing outside in soil. Also, old timer tricks most times work the best and you've got pics to show case them. However, i do agree with each plant needs being differnt, but you seem to how the eye for that!

It's practice. I read and re read deficiencies and grow issues. Then head into the...wtf is wrong with my plants section and try to evaluate. I rarely answer unless its totally obvious or it's a new grower with dying plants. I love helping someone out but I dont want to sound as if I have all the answers. None of us do...lol

 

[JimJonesJr]

I really enjoy growing in the $25 bale of Sunshine Mix I picked up at my HD along with a bag of perlite. Cheap and easy to grow in, treat it like hydro but it doesn't dry out like coco, no need to pH. It's really the same thing as Promix.

I've search the world around me and I just can't locate any. I am in a rural area and my closest home depot is 70 miles away but luckily Lowe's is only 35. I see a lot of different variations of that mix like sunshine mix #1,2,3,4. After reading some I see the #4 is the pH balance medium with the dolomite lime added. I'm guessing that's the one your mentioning. Anyways, nothing at HD or Lowe's. Online that shit is expensive..lol. Nearly $100 for 3.? cbft. I'm gonna have to rob the piggy bank or the local bank...lol. I do want the medium though. That pH balance aspect of it has got to be a huge benefit. Thanks for the info.

 

[The Phantom]

Yup, Mix #4 is what I'm using with Mega Crop for my outdoor autos, no pHing required.

 

[r0am1ng st0ner]

Just a random hypothetical solution, find a couple friends that also want the medium and call ahead to make sure home depot has some 70 mile is a 3 hour round trip tho so that is still a lot for dirt. Second option find nice local sterilized black dirt and pearlite, vermiculite, and some mykos powder from amazon you will likely end in some killer DIY soil

 

[JimJonesJr]

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Just a random hypothetical solution, find a couple friends that also want the medium and call ahead to make sure home depot has some 70 mile is a 3 hour round trip tho so that is still a lot for dirt. Second option find nice local sterilized black dirt and pearlite, vermiculite, and some mykos powder from amazon you will likely end in some killer DIY soil

Oh believe me. I'd call them first n make sure it's there. I have no friends...just you guys..lol.
Diy is always an option. I'm going to need the medium within the next few weeks though and finding gardening stuff this late on the season is difficult unless you order online and those vendors jack prices up and shipping is a killer.
I'll come up with something. Even if I have to go with miracle grow soil....they'll grow okay with it being just a few months of flowering.
The mothers though....I need a good medium for them.

 

[r0am1ng st0ner]

I just looked at dirt on amazon and I don't know how they can get away with those prices lol good luck on finding local or whatever you decide

 

[JimJonesJr]

It's Temple Time DIY with Jim

So, after a few tests and a bunch of head scratching I think I may have found the solution to my leaky diy cloner. Here she is folks. My new super dooper jet aeroponic clone rooting machine. What ya think?
Hahaha! Well, your looking at part of the fix. Let's see what Jim did at the Temple today.

I got the dimmer switch to help slow down the jets but instead of messing around with that I'll use it for something else. Maybe the wife's vibrator...I dunno. After hours of pondering my dilemma I decided to set the leaky machine down in a larger tote after adding some holes in the smaller tote. Now it can drip and recirculate all day without making a mess. Cost me an extra $11 but I am pleased with it. Once I'm done with it I can just put the lid on and presto...it looks like a regular old tote.

Next week I'll post a tutorial on how to make real grape koolaid. You'll be dying to learn this one. Have a great day my friends.

 

[JimJonesJr]

I just looked at dirt on amazon and I don't know how they can get away with those prices lol good luck on finding local or whatever you decide

eBay is worse. I found a bail of ss#4 for only $199. Sad thing is somebody out there pays it. Not this preachers son...

 

[JimJonesJr]

Today, I could wait no longer. The ladies needed some moisture. Usually when I walk into the greenhouse they get wet but maybe the heats getting to them.
Straight pH water with silica today. I can only hope I got the damn pH right with that dropper test but I could wait no longer. Got my GH pH calibration 7.0 today but meter won't be here till Friday or Saturday.
Tucked these ladies under today. My screen is at that point where it needs to flip to flowering but..... damn it. I've probably got a few more weeks before they flip. Oh well, it's going to be thicker than a Guyana rain forest in here by the end. Not that I know anything about Guyana....wink wink!

 

[r0am1ng st0ner]

I like your leak fix lmfao and ya don't over pay for dirt but ladies look good

 

[JimJonesJr]

I'm hoping my greenhouse doesn't end up like this....but if it does I'm gonna have a shit ton of bud.

 

[JimJonesJr]

 

[Antonio Bandido]

Hello folks. I got a late start this year due to some delays in the greenhouse construction and health issues but by memorial day I managed to have many wee ones popping up. I will be doing two scrog screens for this grow. It's been many years since I've grown at this level so this should be fun. This will not be my first scrog attempt. However, it is my first in a greenhouse. Last year was the first time I'd cracked a seed in over a decade. So, this will get interesting to see just how much I've forgotten and how much I will learn.
***A word on feedback. Please do not hesitate to tell me I'm wrong or have gone full blown retard. I'm learning all over again. Yeah, I remember how to do some things but I gotta humble myself and be open-minded. You experienced up to date growers have a lot to offer and I am thankful you are here and willing to share. Bust my balls if that's your style. I have a thick layer of skin and can take it.

My greenhouse is a diy 32'x14' hoop design with center being roughly 7.5' high. The front part is 20'x14' and contains a few raised beds for tomatoes n peppers. I'll add more to the front next year but for now it conceals my ladies from sight. A small divider separates and hides the rear 12'x14' section where all the fun stuff happens.
The sides roll up and the rear wall has two large windows. The front door is an old repurposed storm door with all glass removed. Air flow has been good so far even though it's been in the 90s lately and very humid. I am hopeful the humidity will taper off at least half way into flowering. I put a stand alone oscillating fan in there and it stirs up the whole area pretty good but I may opt for a second fan before they get into the 4-9 week bud stage. I hope they make it. I refuse to buy weed so it's this grow or nothing.

Here are the strains I will scrog this year. All seed is from Premium Seed Market out of Oregon. Decent prices and great service.

This is a list of what I started for the season but starting from seed will cut these numbers down once I weed out the boys and underachievers.

10 Blueberry OG Kush
10 Scooby Snacks #1
50 White Widow (seed from last yrs small seed grow. I cracked a high amount of that seed this year to choose the best 10 and cull from there.)

Medium: Baccto Organic potting soil. I used this on a few tobacco grows the past few years. Pleased with it's performance. It's not a fancy cannabis soil but it's doing okay I think. I've also added some
Earthgro organic hummus and manure to stretch out the soil.

Nutrients: FoxFarm Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom, Powder Beastie Bloomz, Cha Ching, Open Sesame, Sensi CalMag, Botanicare Silica Blast, GH PH down or Root Farm PH down

***Silica Blast...a word or two about this product. I have used this in the past for indoor grows but never a hot greenhouse. The description says it helps the plant in hot and cold environments. Is this true? I dunno but I'm gonna find out. I have good ventilation but southern heat is brutal. All I can do is pack in the mulch and hope this stuff can produce results as stated. I'm not naive enough to believe every word written on a label so I'd like some input from you guys.
***I am currently trying to read up on the organic grows posted here. I'm okay with being able to read plant deficiencies and stuff like that. I guess I didn't forget everything...lol. But eventually I'd like to cut down on cost and I'm guessing organics will...Am I wrong?
Next year there will be less plants since I can clone and know exactly how many ladies I'll have. I'll post my future plans for the gh later in this thread.

Upon starting this grow I had no nutrients so I made horse shit tea and let it soak with fresh grass clippings. With the shit tea, molasses, and pH down they stayed pretty healthy and green. Normally you gather all the material you need before starting a grow but I was pretty occupied with getting the gh up. Oh well, shit tea happens...right..lol.

After a short vegging I force flowered my young plants in order to cull the boys. Started on 6/6 and by 6/20 I had identified my males and culled out others that showed poor traits. Undoubtedly I will cull a few more as I go. I did it this way because I knew I was using screens and had to eradicate the boys before throwing them under there. I could have bought some fem seed but damn they are expensive. Once I get my winter box grow going I'd love to learn how to make some fem seed but until then it's reg seed or nothing.

7/4 the numbers below are what I will grow out for the remainder of this season.

Scooby Snacks#1 (7 total). 5 are under the large screen and two are stand alone grows.

White Widow (5 total). Three of the widows showing awesome traits are under the other end of the large screen and two are in a stand alone large pot .

Blueberry OG Kush (6 total) Four will be under the smaller screen and two will be stand alone grows. These are some beautiful and vigorous ladies. No doubt the fastest growers of the entire lot.

7/10 They have all fully converted back to the veg stage and in doing so they have exploded with growth. The widows seem to be a reveging slightly slower than the others but they are moving right along.

Let's talk about the screens. Two of them for this grow. One 6'x3' and the other is 7.5'x3.5'. They are anchored into the ground and roughly 18-20" from soil to screen. The light is positioned 94.4 million miles above the grow so I'm not particularly concerned with a light footprint...lol. My small screen is repurposed from a 4ton ac unit. The larger one is repurposed from an old dog pen the neighbor had. He was going to throw out a huge roll but I saved it from destruction. I now have enough to make a scrog 150' long. Wouldn't that be a beautiful site. Maybe someday but not today.

Typically my plant numbers under the screens would be much less. Usually I'd put no more than two under a 4x4 screen indoors but I've ended up with more girls than I bargained for and I refuse to compost a perfectly good girl. So, I'll make room and make what I have work. I am expecting a little overcrowding by the time I get into the flowering stretch but I'll just have to wait and see. Maybe by starting them a little late everything may work out fine. This outdoor growing is a learning curve for me. I'm guessing I have about one month before the stretch starts for my region. If they overflow the screen I have plenty of room to add even more screen if needed but this could turn into a shit show before it's over. Overgrow or not I should end up with some nice bud this fall.

I don't have any pic of early on but here's what my stand alone girls are looking like so far.
One was accidentally topped when a seedling. Normally I opt to bend, twist, and torture my ladies verses cutting off their heads. To me that slows the growth. I'd rather bend my girls over and let the hips get fat. Just my way of doing things. Nothing wrong with decapitation if that's your style...lol

7/18 Did I mention I got a late start? I just got my fox farm nutes and the Sensi cal mag today in the mail. So, since these ladies are pretty far along into the veg I'm mixing up a little over the normal weekly feeding of big Bloom, grow big, cal mag, molasses and of course a little pH down to start off. I will gradually up the ppm as I go. I've never used fox farm products before so I'm not sure how the girls will react. Kinda winged it from the chart they sent. Not sure why it said use Bloom for my veg stage but I figured a little flowering nutes wouldn't hurt. Learning as I go.

7/20 The feeding went well. No negative effects. Freaking hotter than hell today...94 but feels like 104 is what the weather man said. My poor ladies need a damn air conditioner..lol. But they seem to be doing okay.

Did some training in the screens today and removed a few large leaves blocking light. Normally I remove leaf on a regular basis on a indoor grow but have let them get a little shaggy out in the greenhouse.

7/23 This is a white widow and to me she looks like I didn't feed her enough. No burnt tips. Just lighter green coloration spewing from new growth. What's your take on it? I've since given her a stronger solution of nutes and await her response. I hope I did it right. I just couldn't wait around and let her go hungry.

Nothing new to report really. Did a little more screen maintenance today. Watching plants grow is like watching paint dry. Is it October yet?

Well, there it is. My 2020 project. Updates coming soon.

Nice spot JJJ Would love to have this type of set up....maybe one day...;;AB

 

[JimJonesJr]

Nice spot JJJ Would love to have this type of set up....maybe one day...;;AB

Thanks for stopping by AB. The greenhouse has been fun but like all things new. There's a learning curve. The only thing that can stop me now is a tornado...scary around here sometimes.

 

[Antonio Bandido]

Funny....ab

 

[PK]

It's Temple Time DIY with Jim

So, after a few tests and a bunch of head scratching I think I may have found the solution to my leaky diy cloner. Here she is folks. My new super dooper jet aeroponic clone rooting machine. What ya think?
Hahaha! Well, your looking at part of the fix. Let's see what Jim did at the Temple today.

I got the dimmer switch to help slow down the jets but instead of messing around with that I'll use it for something else. Maybe the wife's vibrator...I dunno. After hours of pondering my dilemma I decided to set the leaky machine down in a larger tote after adding some holes in the smaller tote. Now it can drip and recirculate all day without making a mess. Cost me an extra $11 but I am pleased with it. Once I'm done with it I can just put the lid on and presto...it looks like a regular old tote.

Next week I'll post a tutorial on how to make real grape koolaid. You'll be dying to learn this one. Have a great day my friends.

hey jim, how are you cooling the mixture down? for hydroponic you need to have the res water to be cooled down.

 

[Antonio Bandido]

Thanks for stopping by AB. The greenhouse has been fun but like all things new. There's a learning curve. The only thing that can stop me now is a tornado...scary around here sometimes.

Yes me too, learning a lot as I fumble my way through the in's & out's of growing my own