Royale Haze Soil 150w HPS Closet Grow

Time for the pretty..... How does she look? Any weight estimates?

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-TG
 
Nothing really to report. I am guessing that I will only get a dry 1/2oz out of this plant. I will hopefully do better on the next one. This grow has been problem free for the most part. I just have to find a way to yield better. Then again I might be surprised as it is still swelling. All thrichs are still clear and I have about 4 weeks left. I am hoping to see some improvement though.
 
shove some molasses down her throat!
4weeks will put some weight on her.:cheer: still looks nice
 
Well, well, well... I was thinking my weight was going to be lighter than expected until I came home this morning to find my plant bending over in every direction. As warned the branches can not hold the buds anymore. So I spent some time tying up the girl and checking my trichomes. I would say that I am a week to 10 days from chop as most are milky. I also ended up flushing the soil today as the time is coming. I will get pictures up in a couple days as I want the plant to recover from the flush.

-TG
 
good news is good news:)
 
Hey TG!!
Awsum to see some buds there mate!!!:thumb:
Hmm, well i dunno, if you let her go til she s got say maybe 20% amber trichs, by then she should have put as much size as she can:)
But im guessing you will get about 2 oz off her mate,(dry) i hope you get more bro!! But if you dont mind waiting a bit and she's still fairly green and not yellowing too much then she's still producing mate, ive thought a few times my buds werent that dense, but when it came time to chop em, they were all decent buds. Calyxes had swollen more than i thought! Some buds didnt do so well but, my cola's on the last grow were 8 oz dry, most cola's were 5-16grams. The damaged branch actually gave me a larger cola than its main one!!
Anyways mate, glad to see your girls lookin so good and youre not far away from the SHMOKIN!! Catch ya, Smokemup..
 
Smokemupm8 said:
Hey TG!!
Awsum to see some buds there mate!!!:thumb:
Hmm, well i dunno, if you let her go til she s got say maybe 20% amber trichs, by then she should have put as much size as she can:)
But im guessing you will get about 2 oz off her mate,(dry) i hope you get more bro!! But if you dont mind waiting a bit and she's still fairly green and not yellowing too much then she's still producing mate, ive thought a few times my buds werent that dense, but when it came time to chop em, they were all decent buds. Calyxes had swollen more than i thought! Some buds didnt do so well but, my cola's on the last grow were 8 oz dry, most cola's were 5-16grams. The damaged branch actually gave me a larger cola than its main one!!
Anyways mate, glad to see your girls lookin so good and youre not far away from the SHMOKIN!! Catch ya, Smokemup..
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I could only dream of having 2 oz. But if I do I will be extremely impressed. A lot of the lower leaves are curling and yellowing so I know the end is near. Checked trichomes today and I would say I am between 5-10% amber. This plant matured a heck of a lot quicker than expected. It all good though. I pulled a sample bud a week ago and let me tell you I like the nice high I got from it. Had a nice sweet yet spicy and piney taste. I can only imagine what will become of the buds with more time and a nice cure. Only time will tell. Thanks for checking in and the kind words.

-TG
 
Okay I have decided to go back in time.... When I say this I am going to list my current setup and find out what you all think I could do/could have done before I started this grow to help control my stretch. I will do this as a little list and see what we can do to fix all these issues that I have had so far.

1) Space: 2'W x 4'L x 8'H closet
2) Lighting: An El cheapo 2' Florescent grow light(sides) and a 150w HPS (top)
3) Reflectives: Space Blankets and white paint on wall behind scrubber
4) Cooling: 1 6" Personal fan and a dual 7" window fan and a 15,000 BTU a/c on the first floor keeping it icy in the whole house
5) Exhaust: 6" 500cfm inline fan with a 6" x 24" carbon filter vented out of the closet
6) Soil: Promix
7) Nutes: Started with Canna Terra Flores at 10ml/gal for 1 week then 20ml/gal for 2 weeks. Switched to BPN for flower and followed schedule as directed.
8) Temps/Humidity: 72-88 throughout grow, humidity 60% max lights out and usually 43-52% lights on and for most of the grow preflower.
9) Electrical: Obviously some electrical issues in the home but have figured it out to be the draw from the a/c on the circuit. I have standard 200 amp service and most of the grow was running off a 15amp circuit as the damn a/c is on the same circuit but different floor and room of home.

So with all this info the only thing I can determine is light being the issue once I get the electrical figured out. Which also lies another issue know as money. I am looking for a way to get a new light system that is going to be able to allow me to grow correctly. So I need opinions on how to achieve the best bang for the buck as funds are super tight with the kids just starting school again and the holiday season is upon us. I am thinking maybe a 400w setup that runs MH and HPS. I like this idea as I can hopefully still run my 150w HPS when beginning flower and keep the MH running during the first 2-3 weeks of flower. BID is testing some lighting ideas to help control stretch and I think he maybe on to something. Also has anyone used iPower systems as I have seen them relatively inexpensive?

Thanks again in advance,

-TG
 
well since this is my first stab at glr, I truly believe that stretch has been kept to a mininum.
the nodes are very close together. now I cant say if this is the norm because the plants I'am growing now are clones and were mature compared to all my previous seed grows. also I have not grown the same strain twice. so there maybe something to that.
but there is some kind of difference:)
 
TacticalGrow said:
Okay I have decided to go back in time.... When I say this I am going to list my current setup and find out what you all think I could do/could have done before I started this grow to help control my stretch. I will do this as a little list and see what we can do to fix all these issues that I have had so far.

1) Space: 2'W x 4'L x 8'H closet
2) Lighting: An El cheapo 2' Florescent grow light(sides) and a 150w HPS (top)
3) Reflectives: Space Blankets and white paint on wall behind scrubber
4) Cooling: 1 6" Personal fan and a dual 7" window fan and a 15,000 BTU a/c on the first floor keeping it icy in the whole house
5) Exhaust: 6" 500cfm inline fan with a 6" x 24" carbon filter vented out of the closet
6) Soil: Promix
7) Nutes: Started with Canna Terra Flores at 10ml/gal for 1 week then 20ml/gal for 2 weeks. Switched to BPN for flower and followed schedule as directed.
8) Temps/Humidity: 72-88 throughout grow, humidity 60% max lights out and usually 43-52% lights on and for most of the grow preflower.
9) Electrical: Obviously some electrical issues in the home but have figured it out to be the draw from the a/c on the circuit. I have standard 200 amp service and most of the grow was running off a 15amp circuit as the damn a/c is on the same circuit but different floor and room of home.

So with all this info the only thing I can determine is light being the issue once I get the electrical figured out. Which also lies another issue know as money. I am looking for a way to get a new light system that is going to be able to allow me to grow correctly. So I need opinions on how to achieve the best bang for the buck as funds are super tight with the kids just starting school again and the holiday season is upon us. I am thinking maybe a 400w setup that runs MH and HPS. I like this idea as I can hopefully still run my 150w HPS when beginning flower and keep the MH running during the first 2-3 weeks of flower. BID is testing some lighting ideas to help control stretch and I think he maybe on to something. Also has anyone used iPower systems as I have seen them relatively inexpensive?

Thanks again in advance,

-TG
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Man, I have an unused 250w switchable (hood and ballast in one package) that I would just give you, 'cept you are in the interwebs and 'prolly not in my neck of the woods.

But as far as what you have, GLR *should* tighten it up some, but may not be enough to fully over come a lack in lumens. Do you have any sort of budget lined up? AS I told DephOne right at the beginning of his grow, a project always starts with a budget. That is the single most important thing to figure out. Ok, actually your goal is the most important, but budget is right up there. So, if you don't mind divulging a number to work with, you can utilize all the great minds here to figure out how to best use your hard earned dollars....or quid.....yen....rubles....whatever.


EDIT: I have an iPower 600w HPS using a cool tube. Here's my ballast. It has 50, 75 and 100% power settings so I can cut back if needed. I put it in a tote and plumbed a 4" duct to it. I cut holes in the bottom of the box to allow fresh cool air in from under the ballast then the hot air is sucked out. I use one fan split to cool the ballast and the tube. Fresh cool air does not come from my flower room, so the whole light ventilation is on its own circuit draw from outside and venting outside.



 
I'll guess 42 grams dry, but they still have time to bulk up!

Give it some extra co2, with an open bottle of yeast and sugar. The yeast is alive, so it's constantly growing, just give it a spoon full of sugar every couple days, and replace the whole thing, every 2 weeks or so. I've seen pretty good results from this in a small space.
 
CanuckGal said:
I'll guess 42 grams dry, but they still have time to bulk up!

Give it some extra co2, with an open bottle of yeast and sugar. The yeast is alive, so it's constantly growing, just give it a spoon full of sugar every couple days, and replace the whole thing, every 2 weeks or so. I've seen pretty good results from this in a small space.
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Ok 42.1 grams. thats my ball park guess :)
 
Heirloom I am sure that I am not in your neck of the woods but really appreciate the thought. I would be willing to pay shipping though :) As far as budget I am looking to do it as cheap as possible while still getting good quality stuff.

CanuckGal I like the suggestion of co2 but will it really help out that much when my temps have been okay?

Thanks for the replies!

-TG
 
A suggestion to prevent stretch, its just a conclusion that I came to and wrote on my blog :)

Using Blue Spectrum light for the first 1-2 weeks of flower ( Stretch Period )

by GreeenFingers , 08-30-2012 at 05:03 AM

I came to the conclusion from my plants, that until there are actual flowers/buds developing, the plants are still utilising and need Blue light the same as they would in the Vegetative period.

The sudden shock of a drop to 12/12 means that the plants are going to stretch a little regardless but it is Blue light that provides what they need during this period of time for this process of growth and they will not stretch much.

The only reason a plant stretches is due to lack of light, if you remove the light a plant needs or is using, it stretches to look for it.

This is why I feel that using blue light or keeping it until the plants adjust to the 12/12 schedule stops or at least dramatically slows down ''stretch'' and will keep internodes very tight during this 1-2 weeks. Red light would not need to be used at this point because the plants will not yet be in the process of building flowers therefore it would not be utilised the same as Blue.

I think the plants only stretch because they are not getting the light or spectrum they need, when I watched my girls stretching for that HPS like crazy ( it was only kept 2 inches from the tops ) it looked like a classic sign of light deprivation.

Once the 1-2 weeks of ''Stretch'' is over and flowers are beginning to form seems to me to be the perfect time to introduce the Red spectrum because that is the only time the plants are actually going to need it.

That seems to me to make sense ha ha
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