Rifleman's Roost Open 24/7: Perpetually Perplexed

[Rifleman]

If we knew EXACTLY what we would get from each seed, well...what fun would that be?
Peace, Hyena

It's a thrill every time. Doesn't matter if it's a midget or monster.

...............Got a recent picture of your hempy girl handy? I'd like to see how she's progressed since the last photo. I frequently look at them and think "She's goin' nowhere! " to turn around and have them shooting over 48".

She's a fighter, growing slightly funky like a clone. Day 45 I think. About six inches tall. Just maybe I'll have a halfway success with her...a 150 day DDA. Let me go load this morning's photos so y'all can have a laugh.

My guess: huge.
Love it!

Arrrrrgh Grandpa ! We be growing trees matey.

 

[Rifleman]

MBAP 1 & 2 AN Day 68




MBAP 3 & 4 Remo Day 68



DDA 7gal hempy Day 43



Stilton Special Day 42 The back row is 29", front row 17". All three were topped above 4th node on Day 14. Advanced m,g,b only.

 

[Ditchweed242]

Things are looking very jungly. Lol.
Great job Rifle.

Cheers.

 

[Blazinjones]

MBAP 1 & 2 AN Day 68




MBAP 3 & 4 Remo Day 68



DDA 7gal hempy Day 43



Stilton Special Day 42 The back row is 29", front row 17". All three were topped above 4th node on Day 14. Advanced m,g,b only.

Dam man that is lookn like a forest in there lol great job man. Yeah I noticed with my remo nutes ill have to keep adjusting the ph balance. Cause it started causing burning wen i tried one one of my hempy girls without adjusting it. But that's OK since those girls are soon to be flipped ill jus finish them out with the remo nutes and my new girls n clones r being done with a.n. ph perfect

 

[Rifleman]

Things are looking very jungly. Lol.
Great job Rifle.
Cheers.

Dam man that is lookn like a forest in there lol great job man. Yeah I noticed with my remo nutes ill have to keep adjusting the ph balance. Cause it started causing burning wen i tried one one of my hempy girls without adjusting it. But that's OK since those girls are soon to be flipped ill jus finish them out with the remo nutes and my new girls n clones r being done with a.n. ph perfect

Thanks y'all. I think I'm going to be in trouble with the Stiltons. They had their largest 24 hr gain last night, 2.5in each. They are up to 31.5" The lights are nearly maxed out heightwise too. I'm trying to keep them at least 12-15" above the canopy since the COBs are supposed to be too intense up close.

It might be neck breaking time again soon.

 

[Rifleman]

A joyous day here at The Roost.


I got in on the black Friday sale with my friends at Mephisto Genetics. I ordered three each of the Cosmic Queen and 4 Assed Monkey. I got my hands on them today.... FIVE of each ! But wait, that's not all ! Five freebies, Blue Toof. Never disappointed by Mitch and his crew.

 

[Lazarus13]

Awesome man! Early xmas presents are always good.

 

[The Dealer]

That 4 assed monkey was looking real nice.

 

[Rifleman]

Awesome man! Early xmas presents are always good.

So true Laz. But the best part of it is.... it's every time I order directly from Mephisto. There is no better or generous than the folks at MG.

That 4 assed monkey was looking real nice.

I've not seen one grown yet TD. I did like the description given by Mephisto though.

"Generation: F4

Type: Auto - Feminised

Genetic Heritage: Gorilla Glue #4 x Grape Crinkle

Project introduction and Overview:

'4 Assed Monkey' - those familiar with Mephisto know we don't just use a name to sell seeds, or to jump on the hype train, or to piggy back off of someone else's hard work. It's not our style.


Infact, to create a new auto strain that really bares a significant resemblence to the photoperiod strain you start with takes a lot of dedication, even more so than the usual high levels of work and time that we put in. In our opinion and experience it can take 3 outcrosses to your desired photoperiod to really lock traits down and to feel comfortable to put that little word, 'auto' before or after a famous strain name. To do that work could easily take 5-6 years. This single cross of Gorilla Glue #4 to our grape crinkle, working it over 4 generations to become fully auto and testing time, has taken over 2 years alone.


Initally we made a cross of GG#4 x ripleys og and also the GG#4 to Grape Crinkle for evaluation, but after the F1 grow out, we settled on the GG#4 and Grape Crinkle cross being the one to develop. Happy to say we're stoked with the outcome, and by calling it 4 assed monkey, that pays homage to it being related to Gorilla Glue #4, and also to our company namesake where Dr. Mephisto made his 5 assed monkeys up in his lab. We're on our crazy farm developing 4 assed monkeys, So to us 4 Assed Monkey seems quite poetic.

This girl is a quick one, sparkly with frost, high in terps and has become something unique which we're super proud of.



Strain behaviour and structure:

4 Assed monkey is a speedy auto indeed, putting on flowers and putting out her sparkly oils from early in life. We would classify her as being on the smaller side of medium. When given room to spread out and a good environment she will yield well, but is aptly suited to smaller spaces or to be grown in higher plant densities. We would recommend some leaf tucking and gentle manipulation to aid her on her journey, but with limited veg time for the most part she isn't best suited to heavy manipulation and harsh training techniques. Aromas range from earthy with hints of sour initially that develop into a fruity tropical blend that is ultra tasty and salivating. Flowers have tight formation encrusted in resin. Bag appeal is top notch on this lady.



Strain figures and info in brief:

Indica/Sativa: 50/50

Cycle time: 60-65 days

Size: 50-70cm

Height/Width 40-60cm

Yield: 60-90g as a single plant grow

Best method for overall high yield: 12 per 1.2x1.2 space in 12 liter pots under a 600w - 550g is obtainable.

Aroma and flavour: Aromas spanning gas, rubber, chemicals and grapes.

Tastes earthy-sour to fruity totally tropical taste.

Effect: Euphoric buzzBest grown: Indoor

Flower Density: 8/10

Cannbinoids: TBA

Medicinal qualities: Uplifting and relaxing, can help with anxiety



Further info:

Ease of grow - 7/10 - Ensure a good start and it's plain sailing.

Aroma level whilst growing - 6.5/10 Mild to medium intensity but how she smells is A++

Trim ease - 8/10 - Not a challenge.

Frost Level - 9/10 Great coverage on both fans and flowers

Bag Appeal - 9/10 Solid bag appeal blending pretty flowers and intoxicating aromas

After Cure Aroma level - 7/10 - Med-High

Potency - 8.5/10 Solid go to meds.

Concentrate info - 9/10 Fantastic Extraction candidate, full plant extractions or trim and leaf the return is high.

Overall Mephisto rating - 8.5/10 "



Everything I've grown of theirs is top notch. I'll have time for one more rotation through the tent this season and I'm torn on what to grow. Y'all stick around and sooner or later(~3 wks) a decision will be made.

 

[Lazarus13]

Man, that sounds amazing. For sure when the $ is available i will be giving Mephisto a try. Them and Dutch Passion are the two breeders i want to try but the prices are a bit steeper than i can spare at the moment. Tax time is around the corner tho.
I forget... Why is it that you take a hiatus from growing? Is it temps or by choice? I always hate to see you go.

 

[Rifleman]

Man, that sounds amazing. For sure when the $ is available i will be giving Mephisto a try. Them and Dutch Passion are the two breeders i want to try but the prices are a bit steeper than i can spare at the moment. Tax time is around the corner tho.
I forget... Why is it that you take a hiatus from growing? Is it temps or by choice? I always hate to see you go.

I really like the DP autoultimate I grew. Sour smelling when smoked. Hard buds. Grew fairly large and had a big harvest.

My normal routine has been to stop in April or May when the temps pick up. After that, holidays, family events, etc have made it impossible to resume before Oct. This year might be different though. I can run a single COB over a hempy and not have to be around as much as I do with the dwc, and it will be quieter for sure, avoiding my nosey realitives that mooch couch space during the get togethers.

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

Awesome synopsis. Very well done. Thanks!

 

[Lazarus13]

That was going to be my answer if it was temps. This hempy i have going keeps luring me in farther because its just so damn easy. Look at this Girl Scout Cookies in a 3.5 gallon hempy...

Its friggin huge. 4 weeks of veg from seed and now 2 weeks in 12/12. Thats a regular sized bic at the base of the plant for reference...
It would be cool if you were around here more during the warmer months man.
Im going to go drool over mephistos page for a bit. Lol. Later

 

[Rifleman]

A couple of quick photos of the Stilton Specials this morning during the water change.

#1(L)36.5".....#2 (R) 38".....#3 (alone).....22"

LMAO, the 4x4 can't hold them.










Edit: Day 52

 

[Rifleman]

You've seen the glory in the 4x4, now I'll show you the chaos of letting strongly sativa leaning plants run wild in the large tent. It's not a pretty sight... or is it. Oh yeah, the little DDA is all grown up, sort of.
She does have some friends though.

 

[Rider509]

You've seen the glory in the 4x4, now I'll show you the chaos of letting strongly sativa leaning plants run wild in the large tent. It's not a pretty sight... or is it.

I feel your pain! My sativas have outgrown my 4x8 and are poised to take over the world. They're getting new digs tomorrow. 7'x11' and an 8' ceiling so they can finish stretching their legs.

 

[Rifleman]

I feel your pain! My sativas have outgrown my 4x8 and are poised to take over the world. They're getting new digs tomorrow. 7'x11' and an 8' ceiling so they can finish stretching their legs.

I'd love to have an 8ft ceiling in my tents. Lights cause a loss of at least half a foot, and anything that nears 4.5 - 5 feet ends up getting supercropped to keep proper distances. The Stiltons in the 4x4 are the first autos that I've topped, and I think it's going to be standard procedure from now on.

 

[Rider509]

I solved the dilemma of runaway sativas, at least temporarily. If they outgrow the new space I created I'm calling NASA to report alien lifeforms. Photos in my journal.

 

[Rifleman]

I've seen, used, and recommended this chart several times. I tried to find the source with no luck, but I did find the "Notes" mentioned in the text. Ill post them below the photo.



*The ideal scenario you are looking to achieve is where the EC is either dropping slightly or remaining static, with a static or slightly rising ph and a dropping water level. If you get this situation, keep doing exactly what you are doing because your plant is feeding and drinking.

Note 1.
When pumping air into a nutrient solution in order to add Dissolved Oxygen, not only oxygen is present, CO2 is also pumped in. If you live near a busy road, this may be higher than normal, so you may get a dropping ph quite often. I have noticed most of the growers who suffer from a falling ph in DWC tend to live in large cities. This may not be a link but it could be.
When CO2 is added to water, it makes it more acidic. This is the precise process which causes acid rain, pollution from power stations etc pouring CO2 into the air, this mixes with the water vapour in clouds causing acid rain.

Note 2.
Most people assume that with a rising EC, it is the plants way of saying, I dont want more food, here, have some back.
What is actually happening is this.
Plants roots take in water/nutrients through a process called Osmosis. Effectively, if you think in terms of the roots having their own internal EC.
The osmosis process will always try to balance out the EC's, taking from the higher side of the barrier and giving to the lower part.
So if the EC of the nutrient solution is higher than the "internal EC", then food & water will flow from the solution to the roots, this is the normal process.
If however, the EC of the solution is higher than the "internal EC", then the balancing will work the other way and nutrition will be leeched from the roots to the solution.
A res change or increase in EC should resolve depending on the other factors such as ph and water levels.

Note 3.
Nutrients flow around a well hydrated plant much more effectively and faster than one which isnt as well hydrated.
How can growers use this?
By feeding at lower levels, the plant needs to take on more water in order to get the nutrition it requires.
So by feeding at moderate levels, this forces the plant to drink more.
By drinking more, it is better hydrated, because it is better hydrated, it needs more food, making it eat more.
So feed at moderate levels rather than overly aggressive levels.
The method of pushing the EC until you see signs of nute burn is damaging to the plants and although many growers use this method, I am not a fan though your plants are not mine!

 

[Hyena Merica]

I've seen, used, and recommended this chart several times. I tried to find the source with no luck, but I did find the "Notes" mentioned in the text. Ill post them below the photo.



*The ideal scenario you are looking to achieve is where the EC is either dropping slightly or remaining static, with a static or slightly rising ph and a dropping water level. If you get this situation, keep doing exactly what you are doing because your plant is feeding and drinking.

Note 1.
When pumping air into a nutrient solution in order to add Dissolved Oxygen, not only oxygen is present, CO2 is also pumped in. If you live near a busy road, this may be higher than normal, so you may get a dropping ph quite often. I have noticed most of the growers who suffer from a falling ph in DWC tend to live in large cities. This may not be a link but it could be.
When CO2 is added to water, it makes it more acidic. This is the precise process which causes acid rain, pollution from power stations etc pouring CO2 into the air, this mixes with the water vapour in clouds causing acid rain.

Note 2.
Most people assume that with a rising EC, it is the plants way of saying, I dont want more food, here, have some back.
What is actually happening is this.
Plants roots take in water/nutrients through a process called Osmosis. Effectively, if you think in terms of the roots having their own internal EC.
The osmosis process will always try to balance out the EC's, taking from the higher side of the barrier and giving to the lower part.
So if the EC of the nutrient solution is higher than the "internal EC", then food & water will flow from the solution to the roots, this is the normal process.
If however, the EC of the solution is higher than the "internal EC", then the balancing will work the other way and nutrition will be leeched from the roots to the solution.
A res change or increase in EC should resolve depending on the other factors such as ph and water levels.

Note 3.
Nutrients flow around a well hydrated plant much more effectively and faster than one which isnt as well hydrated.
How can growers use this?
By feeding at lower levels, the plant needs to take on more water in order to get the nutrition it requires.
So by feeding at moderate levels, this forces the plant to drink more.
By drinking more, it is better hydrated, because it is better hydrated, it needs more food, making it eat more.
So feed at moderate levels rather than overly aggressive levels.
The method of pushing the EC until you see signs of nute burn is damaging to the plants and although many growers use this method, I am not a fan though your plants are not mine!

Thanks. Now my head hurts.

Merry Christmas bro.

Peace, Hyena