Return Of The Skunk

bluter said:
nice thought but they couldn't care less. all the emphasis in breeding now is elsewhere. the current push is for easy and faster growing commercial weed. skunk was on the way out long before legal. there's less than no chance now that legal is here.

there are some growers out in bc that still grow it, but the genetics are 30+ yrs now, i doubt it's really the same, and the prices for it will make your hair curl. it's not in the legal mainstream.
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Connoisseurial strains are always pricey of kush had a varying range but it was around 440 an ounce while I was picking up OZ of what I kept and always stayed on deck with but people wanted to always get the best for less so I’d sell them the 440 I’d smoke mine and I’d smoke again an hour later but they smoked 3 times more for the same effect and the tolerance to that strain was never met even though I smoke high percentage and lower percentage land race or known strains hollands hope
Snocap sprite, pez, herojuana, black domina, White Russian, gdp, purple Urkle, white rhino, sour diesel, east coast sour diesel, blueberry, strawberry cough, purple haze, Willie’s wonder, Larry’s og, papa Smurf and so forth
 
Jdomethrizz said:
Connoisseurial strains are always pricey of kush had a varying range but it was around 440 an ounce while I was picking up OZ of what I kept and always stayed on deck with but people wanted to always get the best for less so I’d sell them the 440 I’d smoke mine and I’d smoke again an hour later but they smoked 3 times more for the same effect and the tolerance to that strain was never met even though I smoke high percentage and lower percentage land race or known strains hollands hope
Snocap sprite, pez, herojuana, black domina, White Russian, gdp, purple Urkle, white rhino, sour diesel, east coast sour diesel, blueberry, strawberry cough, purple haze, Willie’s wonder, Larry’s og, papa Smurf and so forth
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Oops meant to say the average here was about 440 for just the oh smell but the OZ I was smoking was purchased for 560 so not a sellers bud per se. unless you go to a sesh and people see the glimmer of sparkly diamonds bright pink hairs on vibrant bright green deep purple light violet hues and a extra heavy cocaine coating of snow all over it.
That was probably the best bud I’ll ever have had
But I’m sure the opus and headband cross will be comparable
 
So who wants to try a high cadmium skunk grow?
As well I still find this one of the most interesting theories why the skunk ain't skunking anymore..
Less heavy metals in the soil or nutrients used compared to the 70's & 80's.

As
"One of the defense systems against toxic heavy metals in plants is to employ cysteine-rich chelating compounds, phytochelatins, which are polymeric forms of glutathione. In the present study cadmium stressed Arabidopsis was employed in order to investigate the response of genes involved in glutathione biosynthesis via cysteine and production of thiol compounds. The results showed a 13-fold increase in transcripts for ATP sulfurylase, 6 to 10-fold for APS reductase and 2-fold for sulfite reductase, all of which are involved in cysteine synthesis. In addition, a 3-fold increase in total thiols was noted, mainly of glutathione, phytochelatins and cysteine. It is suggested that, to cope with toxic heavy metals, plants activate the sulfur assimilation pathway by increasing transcription of related genes to provide an enhanced supply of glutathione for phytochelatin biosynthesis."

Of course adding carcinogens to the soil probably isn't the best way forward..
 
Which of course makes me think.. the skunkbud everyone is raving about was grown in some damn polluted areas or with some very dirty rock phosphate :D

It would be interesting to see if a heavy metal grow would enhance skunk characteristics with an increase in thiol/sulphurous compounds.
But yeah I'm not going to smoke the stuff, maybe vaping is okay as then I'm not burning plant material as the stuff gets stored in the vacuoles.
 
Fenderbender said:
So who wants to try a high cadmium skunk grow?
As well I still find this one of the most interesting theories why the skunk ain't skunking anymore..
Less heavy metals in the soil or nutrients used compared to the 70's & 80's.

As
"One of the defense systems against toxic heavy metals in plants is to employ cysteine-rich chelating compounds, phytochelatins, which are polymeric forms of glutathione. In the present study cadmium stressed Arabidopsis was employed in order to investigate the response of genes involved in glutathione biosynthesis via cysteine and production of thiol compounds. The results showed a 13-fold increase in transcripts for ATP sulfurylase, 6 to 10-fold for APS reductase and 2-fold for sulfite reductase, all of which are involved in cysteine synthesis. In addition, a 3-fold increase in total thiols was noted, mainly of glutathione, phytochelatins and cysteine. It is suggested that, to cope with toxic heavy metals, plants activate the sulfur assimilation pathway by increasing transcription of related genes to provide an enhanced supply of glutathione for phytochelatin biosynthesis."

Of course adding carcinogens to the soil probably isn't the best way forward..
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interesting - sulfur could be one reason But way-back when there were not much nutrient use as compared to now - So ????? check this one out Silver Bullet (by Nature if Life) for your sulfur
 
safeman said:
interesting - sulfur could be one reason But way-back when there were not much nutrient use as compared to now - So ????? check this one out Silver Bullet (by Nature if Life) for your sulfur
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Well it looks like it's in response to heavy metal contamination in soil that a plant makes more thiol compounds, so those could make a plant extra skunky and well back in the day hmm regulations or people taking heed was probably a lot less than today.
So I dunno if you were growing down creek from a factory, or well plenty of contaminated land around industry in general. Or well I think rock phosphate was already used a lot as a fertiliser and that can contain a whole bunch of heavy metals, so those stresses could turn it into a much more stinky plant.
Even over here plenty of stories of people buying property only to be met with heavy contaminated soil and having to spend a lot to have it sanitised.

But so how do it test this? a good skunk strain and break open a cadmium battery and stick it in the soil? :D
Of course too much and you can kill the grow as well.
 
Fenderbender said:
Which of course makes me think.. the skunkbud everyone is raving about was grown in some damn polluted areas or with some very dirty rock phosphate :D

It would be interesting to see if a heavy metal grow would enhance skunk characteristics with an increase in thiol/sulphurous compounds.
But yeah I'm not going to smoke the stuff, maybe vaping is okay as then I'm not burning plant material as the stuff gets stored in the vacuoles.
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I can tell you from experience that most of the grows in the 70's/80's, at least in Humboldt/Medocino/Trinity counties were not grown in the native soil, it was a very poor soil (red clay for the most part) In soil science we had a special name for it, "Poor, thin, red, dirt". Suitable for growing trees, and little else. Most grows used potting soil placed in holes dug out of the ground, the only decent soil was in the grasslands, but unless you wanted you grow discovered, you didn't plant there.. Ferilizer was also used extensively.
 
Phytoplankton said:
I can tell you from experience that most of the grows in the 70's/80's, at least in Humboldt/Medocino/Trinity counties were not grown in the native soil, it was a very poor soil (red clay for the most part) In soil science we had a special name for it, "Poor, thin, red, dirt". Suitable for growing trees, and little else. Most grows used potting soil placed in holes dug out of the ground, the only decent soil was in the grasslands, but unless you wanted you grow discovered, you didn't plant there.. Ferilizer was also used extensively.
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Interesting, but I'm thinking it's only since kinda the late 90's that concerns and regulations and guide lines around heavy metals took a more prominent role. 70's potting soil could be a whole different beast from a bag you get today?
It's the environment and input that makes the expression.

If rock cress already shows a tripling of thiols when stressed with cadmium. I kinda wanna know how Cannabis responds.
 
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