Return Of The Skunk

I'd have to agree with Lucifer - youngins here DO NOT know what they're talking about. Being part of 420 does not make the expert.. Slide some of the so called Skunk of today over here to me and St and we'll be the judges.. Skunk actually smelled like a FUCKIN skunk dip shits..

If you smelled that smell it was either "who ran over the skunk?" or "who's got the bud?" - nothing else 420... On a comparison - it would be like me telling a 20 - 30 yr old that I know "all" when it comes to social media, smart phones, computers and the like - just because I owned the device or used a platform.

I lived it , sold it , smoked it -- todays skunk is NOT skunk..

Happy Growing
2024 Hanging

MotaMan

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StLucifer said:
Have any of you actually smelt a skunk? That smell is unforgettable, and the seeds they sell us, sold me, grow a nice pot plant, but never in the entire life of the plants grown from Skunk #1 seeds from here, there and everywhere never smelled anything remotely close or even similar to a skunk. Call it what you will, it ain’t skunk bud. You kids weren’t even born yet when real Skunk bud was around, how can all of a sudden, you’re all fukin’ professionals. Joke.
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I live rurally, and I'm gonna be 42. Hardly a child. I know what a skunk smells like. I've been growing herb for better part of 10 years, and I'm breeding my own stock. I don't like the word, but I'd say I'm at least in the minor leagues. Give me 1000sq ft and id challenge any grower. I could hang. I think I Might know a thing or three. There's a lot of educated people on here.
 
It's seems people that smoked real skunk suffered some shizoïd episodes and became insufferable.. stay away from it kids!!

All of us are just looking for it yeah?
I think most here agree that the commercialisation of weed has done some great and some sad fucked up shit to it and that a lot of things softened & sweetened up or grown out on purpose as they are not desirable traits for a commercial market.
And heck I'd blame the Americans and their rappers even more than the Dutch in the recent decades as they went even harder into the candyshop shizzle, packing everything like its candy made for kids and big comical figures on everything and all in on the fruity flavours.
What I remember from the 90's the Dutch were smoking very pungent stuff with still many very aggressive not so pleasant notes, like I said the citral was cat piss central in the bag, on the inhale on the exhale, probably a skunk pheno, just like a heavy cheese something that many blowers would avoid, rotten & sulphurous smells were no stranger to cannabis. the heritage is present in strains, but things get bred out and diluted. And well certainly back then the whole seed thing wasn't really that established yet, as if you wanted to grow, yeah you could get seeds but everyone was still buying cuts.
Was it as skunky as the stuff going around over there in the 70's yeah I can't tell, probably not if I hear y'all but the compounds are present in many strains and the ratios of course depend a lot on the cultivar. So it's about finding the right mix..
I'm thinking the Citral might even be quite close, as well we have no skunks around but that stuff smelled straight through the bag like a tomcat sprayed all over it to mark its territory and that contains a similar mix of sulphurous compounds like what skunks spray, and it was a very clingy and long lasting smell.
If you put the baggie in your coat you could just follow the smell trail around the block.
The baggies that had the weed in them would also still smell for miles after the weed was finished, and keeping other stuff in it it would even rub off a bit on the other strain.

And like Sensi lost their lines twice I believe, late 90's and somewhere in the 00's or early 10's so yeah the skunk #1 of recent years is likely far removed from what it once was.
Some claim it never had it and that it's a fruity version, but I think that's something that changed through the years. Or the pheno got here under a different name.

These days you mostly find vaguely reminiscent stuff.
I'm looking for foul powerful stuff too!
 
Fenderbender said:
Yeah okay now what? you got it?

I would think the compounds in cannabis are older than all of us and pop off all kinds of smells all around the globe all the time..
However in the commercial lines it's probably out a long time for the reason mentioned and yes it might have never been in skunk#1
or maybe it is and you just need to get a bucket of the regulars put half a mountain full of plants and take a daily walk to look for it;
A lot of things have been toned down and gone more sweet, I remember Citral weed, that was so violently cat piss it was not really pleasant to smell the bag or smoke the joint, that's over 20 years ago that I've encountered that.

According to the professionals you're looking for a plant very high in Volatile Sulfur Compounds it's not the terpenes that make the skunk https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsomega.1c04196
Terrible publication as they write somewhere, now we know this, this could be useful for future breeding creating even LESS SMELLY strains! noooooo!

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finding something truly pungent like the old Citral or genuine skunk notes is hard nowadays. Commercial lines have shifted to sweeter aromas that are more accessible.
 
Fenderbender said:
It's seems people that smoked real skunk suffered some shizoïd episodes and became insufferable.. stay away from it kids!!

All of us are just looking for it yeah?
I think most here agree that the commercialisation of weed has done some great and some sad fucked up shit to it and that a lot of things softened & sweetened up or grown out on purpose as they are not desirable traits for a commercial market.
And heck I'd blame the Americans and their rappers even more than the Dutch in the recent decades as they went even harder into the candyshop shizzle, packing everything like its candy made for kids and big comical figures on everything and all in on the fruity flavours.
What I remember from the 90's the Dutch were smoking very pungent stuff with still many very aggressive not so pleasant notes, like I said the citral was cat piss central in the bag, on the inhale on the exhale, probably a skunk pheno, just like a heavy cheese something that many blowers would avoid, rotten & sulphurous smells were no stranger to cannabis. the heritage is present in strains, but things get bred out and diluted. And well certainly back then the whole seed thing wasn't really that established yet, as if you wanted to grow, yeah you could get seeds but everyone was still buying cuts.
Was it as skunky as the stuff going around over there in the 70's yeah I can't tell, probably not if I hear y'all but the compounds are present in many strains and the ratios of course depend a lot on the cultivar. So it's about finding the right mix..
I'm thinking the Citral might even be quite close, as well we have no skunks around but that stuff smelled straight through the bag like a tomcat sprayed all over it to mark its territory and that contains a similar mix of sulphurous compounds like what skunks spray, and it was a very clingy and long lasting smell.
If you put the baggie in your coat you could just follow the smell trail around the block.
The baggies that had the weed in them would also still smell for miles after the weed was finished, and keeping other stuff in it it would even rub off a bit on the other strain.

And like Sensi lost their lines twice I believe, late 90's and somewhere in the 00's or early 10's so yeah the skunk #1 of recent years is likely far removed from what it once was.
Some claim it never had it and that it's a fruity version, but I think that's something that changed through the years. Or the pheno got here under a different name.

These days you mostly find vaguely reminiscent stuff.
I'm looking for foul powerful stuff too!
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What about 79 Florida Skunk (heirloom) by Katsu's skunk they also have Trinity Skunk and also a 81 Florida Skunk ?? have their 79 skunk at day 76 - skunk has arrived !!! in 5 more days at 75yrs this might be a keeper and search might be over (for a while) have never hear anything bad about "Katsu's" genetics FYI
 
safeman said:
What about 79 Florida Skunk (heirloom) by Katsu's skunk they also have Trinity Skunk and also a 81 Florida Skunk ?? have their 79 skunk at day 76 - skunk has arrived !!! in 5 more days at 75yrs this might be a keeper and search might be over (for a while) have never hear anything bad about "Katsu's" genetics FYI
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Yeah I went to take a look but they are out.. I dunno, I'd love to try. Get some bud to Mota & Lucifer to see if it's skunk,
if it is then I'll get some seeds and grow it here.. and then I can compare if there was something similar around here. :)
 
anitl said:
finding something truly pungent like the old Citral or genuine skunk notes is hard nowadays. Commercial lines have shifted to sweeter aromas that are more accessible.
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I think the Citral I knew has to be very close related to the skunk if not it.. and probably the same happened to it. If I read the strain described now it's citrus and refreshing.. but that's not what I tasted before, There's something citrus in there but there's a citrus type of smell in cat spray as well, refreshing it is not, it was aggressive sour, tart, musky and very gassy on the nose, if skunk was a 1 for 1 smell of skunk stink, this one was a 1 for 1 smell of big fricking cat that sprayed all over your weed.
Now I'm wondering of course how those two compare, they do seem to be very similar as cat spray breaking down releases mercaptans which makes it smell like skunk, and the anal glands of the cat are similar to the defence of the skunk. So if not exactly it, a very close variation to it.

I'll put it on my list to try out to grow, but I'll probably be greeted with a nice sweet lemony weed.

Edit: I just see there was also Citral Skunk so yeah maybe it could have been that as well but well then definitely something of those genes travelled cause it had all the hallmarks.
 
Fenderbender said:
I think the Citral I knew has to be very close related to the skunk if not it.. and probably the same happened to it. If I read the strain described now it's citrus and refreshing.. but that's not what I tasted before, There's something citrus in there but there's a citrus type of smell in cat spray as well, refreshing it is not, it was aggressive sour, tart, musky and very gassy on the nose, if skunk was a 1 for 1 smell of skunk stink, this one was a 1 for 1 smell of big fricking cat that sprayed all over your weed.
Now I'm wondering of course how those two compare, they do seem to be very similar as cat spray breaking down releases mercaptans which makes it smell like skunk, and the anal glands of the cat are similar to the defence of the skunk. So if not exactly it, a very close variation to it.

I'll put it on my list to try out to grow, but I'll probably be greeted with a nice sweet lemony weed.

Edit: I just see there was also Citral Skunk so yeah maybe it could have been that as well but well then definitely something of those genes travelled cause it had all the hallmarks.
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Cat piss was a big one back in the day. Skunk and cat pee don't relate to me at all. Fox and skunk are very similar. Lol cheetah piss ...actual, not the strain, almost resembles it. Don't ask. Lol cat piss is more ammonia based, while the skunk I agree is more sulfur based. But, if you ever come across a dead skunk on the road ...it can smell different. Sometimes it does smell sweet, with the obvious skunk smell....but it isn't always pungent and rotting like some seem to think.
 
Chrondocious said:
Cat piss was a big one back in the day. Skunk and cat pee don't relate to me at all. Fox and skunk are very similar. Lol cheetah piss ...actual, not the strain, almost resembles it. Don't ask. Lol cat piss is more ammonia based, while the skunk I agree is more sulfur based. But, if you ever come across a dead skunk on the road ...it can smell different. Sometimes it does smell sweet, with the obvious skunk smell....but it isn't always pungent and rotting like some seem to think.
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aha, yeah it's not cat pee, it's cat marking smell which is urine + anal gland goodies which has the skunk thiols..it's richer & muskier than ammonia urine smell and actually it's an odour that's also getting rare as we have huge cat sterilisation programs going on here for decades, so a real hunky tomcat that marks is increasingly rare and the spayed once have way less drive and less potent odour and well they're very demure 😆 compared to their counterparts..I had a big honking Bengal for decades! well two and well that was pretty potent, it's not something you ignore it, it's well that's gonna smell like that for months, might as well chuck it.

Oh but rotten & eggy smells can be very sweet, and musky smells too, sickly sweet even, dank sweetness, not really from tropical terps. Or like buyteric acid that pukey sweaty cheesy smell can also be very sweet. Rotten meat and fish can get very sweet too. alcohols & sugars..
These plants are just unbelievable in what notes they can produce.

Sigh okay so who's got something that's reminiscent now I'm just too curious.

I just edited there was also citral skunk, so it might have been that but I feel that had to have been in the ballpark. Cause that to me was also way more pungent than what was sold as skunk or superskunk around here. And was like your bag just got sprayed by an animal.

And yeah as if genes didn't travel with a plant we've been cultivating and trafficking for millennia.
 
Fenderbender said:
Yeah I went to take a look but they are out.. I dunno, I'd love to try. Get some bud to Mota & Lucifer to see if it's skunk,
if it is then I'll get some seeds and grow it here.. and then I can compare if there was something similar around here. :)
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get the 70 skunk but you must give it 80 days at least (Katsu's likes to run his genetic Long flower times is what I have heard and to tell you the truth - that"s correct and with day 79/80 the flowers start to turn red-ish/purple-ish ect reason for a longer flower time it because of the sativa genetics --FYI If you are looking for skunk chec-oit "Moonshine Skunk" that's were the history is and it's quite a story (moonshiners were getting busted way to much so they started to grow pot hence "Moonshine Skunk" and the story goes on ...............
 
Fenderbender said:
I think the Citral I knew has to be very close related to the skunk if not it.. and probably the same happened to it. If I read the strain described now it's citrus and refreshing.. but that's not what I tasted before, There's something citrus in there but there's a citrus type of smell in cat spray as well, refreshing it is not, it was aggressive sour, tart, musky and very gassy on the nose, if skunk was a 1 for 1 smell of skunk stink, this one was a 1 for 1 smell of big fricking cat that sprayed all over your weed.
Now I'm wondering of course how those two compare, they do seem to be very similar as cat spray breaking down releases mercaptans which makes it smell like skunk, and the anal glands of the cat are similar to the defence of the skunk. So if not exactly it, a very close variation to it.

I'll put it on my list to try out to grow, but I'll probably be greeted with a nice sweet lemony weed.

Edit: I just see there was also Citral Skunk so yeah maybe it could have been that as well but well then definitely something of those genes travelled cause it had all the hallmarks.
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same here citral was surprising tasted like "skunk" it had the taste but not the smell as much
Here are some great skunk strains:
Blue Moonshine
1979 Christmas Skunk
Kentucky Skunk (Kentucky Organics V2)
1996 Kentucky Line (Authenic Genetics)
Covert town skunk (by Kay)(maker of RKS)
Trucker Skunk (#$30.00 - 6 female)kentucky organics
 
I'm always willing to offer my services as an evaluator -- plus I've owned cats and am familiar with their very distinct odor --- no where near the funk of a skunk.. if ya ever lived in the country and there was a dead skunk in the vicinity - that stink would travel for miles -- cat pee don't do that professors...

We all might as well bring out our bugles and play taps -- original Skunk is dead

Happy Harvest -- Blueberry Muffin tested at 26.3 % THC

MotaMan
 
MotaMan420 said:
I'm always willing to offer my services as an evaluator -- plus I've owned cats and am familiar with their very distinct odor --- no where near the funk of a skunk.. if ya ever lived in the country and there was a dead skunk in the vicinity - that stink would travel for miles -- cat pee don't do that professors...

We all might as well bring out our bugles and play taps -- original Skunk is dead

Happy Harvest -- Blueberry Muffin tested at 26.3 % THC

MotaMan
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I one doesn't have heirloom seeds it's not the "true" skunk I mean you can run one strain (skunk) the off spring of plant (mother)has to change at some point (genetics Drift) not with seeds tho (if you can save them for years thought's ??
 
MotaMan420 said:
I'm always willing to offer my services as an evaluator -- plus I've owned cats and am familiar with their very distinct odor --- no where near the funk of a skunk.. if ya ever lived in the country and there was a dead skunk in the vicinity - that stink would travel for miles -- cat pee don't do that professors...

We all might as well bring out our bugles and play taps -- original Skunk is dead

Happy Harvest -- Blueberry Muffin tested at 26.3 % THC

MotaMan
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blueberry muffin x skunk ????????? good strain
 
2024 Harvest continues to give -- Apples and Bananas tests at 24.1% thc .. Even with a +/- of 3% both this strain and Blueberry Muffin still puts em at 21% and 23% if you go low --- I'm very good with that...

Still waiting on StarDawg to fully dry -- wish me luck.

Happy Growing / Harvest
MotaMan
 
MotaMan420 said:
I'd have to agree with Lucifer - youngins here DO NOT know what they're talking about. Being part of 420 does not make the expert.. Slide some of the so called Skunk of today over here to me and St and we'll be the judges.. Skunk actually smelled like a FUCKIN skunk dip shits..

If you smelled that smell it was either "who ran over the skunk?" or "who's got the bud?" - nothing else 420... On a comparison - it would be like me telling a 20 - 30 yr old that I know "all" when it comes to social media, smart phones, computers and the like - just because I owned the device or used a platform.

I lived it , sold it , smoked it -- todays skunk is NOT skunk..

Happy Growing
2024 Hanging

MotaMan

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AMEN to that. I lived in Humboldt in the 70's/80's. Skunk was skunk, unfortunately I've been looking for it for 2 decades, contacted all my old friends who still live up there, been to 20 dispensaries in the area, sorry to say, it's' gone the way of the dodo. What they call skunk now bears no resemblance in taste/smell to the Skunkweed.
 
safeman said:
What about 79 Florida Skunk (heirloom) by Katsu's skunk they also have Trinity Skunk and also a 81 Florida Skunk ?? have their 79 skunk at day 76 - skunk has arrived !!! in 5 more days at 75yrs this might be a keeper and search might be over (for a while) have never hear anything bad about "Katsu's" genetics FYI
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I’ve purchased some packs from Katsuslounge regs with fem freebies I’m in Southern California and my Katsu pre 98 bubba kush x pre98 suffered during the heatwave but it’s phenomenal takes me back to the early years of the heady bubbas and la confidential, or trinity kush, adv oh, 818 og and Compton kush
It’s all a similar strain just diff phenos. (Sorry my punctuation skills are sub par)
I grew a sour lime bubba fem seed and as described it’s dark that also suffered from being chomped to nothing and suffering a 100+ heatwave in June/July and August sept they are small but truly on par with premium ok school vibes

Still waiting on a late started skywalker oh x Stoneys(Sour Diesel) and if memory of smells and profiles of smoke reports mine smells faint piney earthy with a slight black licorice smell and a diesel lemon scent mild but if it smokes as pine gas tart citrus sweet exhale that’s a keeper or the sweet lemony inhale to gaseous choke expansion to gas lemon drop lingering tart sweet gases citrus I’d buy ounces for 400 legit
Happy hunting and massive harvests
 
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