Recess Is Over - Now To Muck Up The Lesson

Anybody seen that new cree light from mars hydro? Know if anybody is journaling it? The par reading are really impressive and the price...
 
GrizzWald said:
anybody know what's trying to be achieved in the flush? I'm going to try something I've read for hydro but with some slight variation. I'm going to feed the viva up until the last week, then take her out of pot, carefully remove all the soil from her roots, stick her in a pot of perlite and water her with boiling water, leave her under lights till she's finished.. . This should quicken the curing process. Makes sense to me, only one way to find out... only reason I'm removing soil is I reuse, not sure what boiling water would do the the microbe life in the soil..
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The flush in hydro is to rid the substrate, and plant of extra salts before harvest. Built up nutes in the plant cause a bitter flavor that most find unfavorable. Soil growers rarely have to do this.
 
I think I'm going to have to have different thoughts on that for the time being :rofl: .. can't link stuff to other sites, but goggle search something like, the truth about flushing or flush with boiling water, good threads by some chemist dude on a 'eye sea magazine' or riu. I'll go with it for now, as fits in to what I want to do. Always go back to conventional.. different note, around ten cracked jandres...
 
GrizzWald said:
I think I'm going to have to have different thoughts on that for the time being :rofl: .. can't link stuff to other sites, but goggle search something like, the truth about flushing or flush with boiling water, good threads by some chemist dude on a 'eye sea magazine'. I'll go with it for now, as fits in to what I want to do. Always go back to conventional.. different note, around ten cracked jandres...
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WOOHOO!! Good luck with those! jandre Kush F2's here we come!
 
I'm really hoping for a few dudes to choose from or an instant, he's the one, lol..
 
AussieBlueTHC said:
Water and molasses seems popular. For flushing.
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Yeah lots of ways folks are flushing. I never realised it was a hotly debated topic.. lots of conflicting info.
 
Never heard of flushing with boiling water. Seems all wrong, but I haven't read about it.

Flushing to me is like the others said- washes out the medium and the plant has to live off it's stored resources to the end.
There is a lot of debate about it. I feel like it's only necessary for overfed plants. For one thing not all nutrients wash out evenly. I think it's mostly N that washes out, leaving some 'weird' mix behind (or so some people say).
I find it kind of drastic. I never see much need to flush unless it's because I screwed up really badly feeding the plant something I shouldn't have and need to start over.
Right up to harvest I usually just keep feeding them with a light bloom mix like 300 ppm. They finish fine and still die down and get that trashed look and all those nice fall colours I like so much. If I feel like the plant has a lot of nutes in its system I go with water only instead. But I don't regularly flush at the end. It's a lot of extra work plus I'm running off rainwater and it uses up a lot of water for nothing.
Interested to see how the boiling water thing works if you do it.
 
Boiling heres a quote with a link in it, some of what I've 'read'
There is truth to the myth if you understand the science, which I posted a link to.
Might not be allowed that link

The myth part is the pushing of THC, What actually happens is you deprive the plant of O2 via the roots, the fade that every one likes happens in 3 to 5 days as opposed to 2 weeks and it speeds up the cure by 7 to 10 days

I've been doin it for years :bigjoint: end quote...

What got me was the sugars and burning sugars. They boil (pop) then caramelise then burn (harsh smoke)
 
GrizzWald said:
Re flush; That's what I was hoping somebody would say and kinda what I had thought but also wrestled with.. it's the sugars in the flowers, the flush and cure, some sort of chemical reaction going on with that... boiling water technique has some speed up effect on that.. find out anyway... not sure if truth or if I'm searching threads that go along with my thoughts on things..
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Could it be that the boiling water instantly kills the roots, and therefore forces the plant to maybe get its shit together ripeness-wise a bit faster? I might try it also... The boiling water is death for all life, microbial and plant (just pour boiling water on your lawn and watch. It will die!). Nothing living can survive over 100 or 110 C or whatever it is, so maybe it's like a massive shock to the plant??? I'm curious too, now...!

GrizzWald said:
I'm really hoping for a few dudes to choose from or an instant, he's the one, lol..
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Geez, Grizz... Have you tried speed dating?
 
:rofl::rofl: don't tell me I'm on the wrong app
 
santb said:
Could it be that the boiling water instantly kills the roots, and therefore forces the plant to maybe get its shit together ripeness-wise a bit faster? I might try it also... The boiling water is death for all life, microbial and plant (just pour boiling water on your lawn and watch. It will die!). Nothing living can survive over 100 or 110 C or whatever it is, so maybe it's like a massive shock to the plant??? I'm curious too, now...!

Geez, Grizz... Have you tried speed dating?
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Im with you on this...deprived of its usual means of feeding the plant takes whatever it can from the leaves. I would think cutting the plant pff at the base and hanging it in the flower tent would do something similar?

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This is week out from harvest, allowed to finish under lights, maybe a slower death. Harvesting would be instant and not allowing the process from roots to plant to happen??
 
Or maybe it is instant and the flowers are actually starting their drying and curing process in that last week under lights???
 
Damn going to have to check that little tid bit out now..(shaking fist in air) mouser!!
 
mouser said:
Im with you on this...deprived of its usual means of feeding the plant takes whatever it can from the leaves. I would think cutting the plant pff at the base and hanging it in the flower tent would do something similar?

:peacetwo:
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GrizzWald said:
This is week out from harvest, allowed to finish under lights, maybe a slower death. Harvesting would be instant and not allowing the process from roots to plant to happen??
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GrizzWald said:
Or maybe it is instant and the flowers are actually starting their drying and curing process in that last week under lights???
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An annual plant will start to die off once flowering begins, and I've always assumed it's from the outside in... Perennials the flowers/fruit will die on the plant, leaving the plant healthy and ready for next season....
It IS interesting. Plenty of MJ growers who cut and hang the whole plant at harvest. Or just branches at a time. How else can it be done? You want the stuff dry. I've seen a few who do the whole root system upside down for a week in the initial drying but once it's cut/pruned/boiled, it's all over for any root activity contributing anything to the buds...
The last week has GOT to be part of the process, no matter what. It's just what the plant does. I'm thinking now that maybe the old boiling water might be a goer..
Final flush, week of ripening/drying, the BAM! Boiling water to kill the activity and shock the plant into finishing up whatever it's doing...????
I'm thinking in that last week or 2, there's really not much happening root-side anyway. It's all over by then, and the plant is already dying. The flowers are also starting to deteriorate by harvest (depending how early or late that is, of course) technically anyway.

Is there a Botanist or a Biologist in the house??
 
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