Dammm.. That's a frosty one grizz 
Recess Is Over - Now To Muck Up The Lesson
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Thanks Ditchweed, Black Thumbs and Dick..
dick you were saying about the info.. I'd been pm with another member here, as I didn't want to argue about it.. bored at mum and dads, I just thought some others might also enjoy some of it.. it's a good little taste of how much more there is to explore learn and understand.
dick you were saying about the info.. I'd been pm with another member here, as I didn't want to argue about it.. bored at mum and dads, I just thought some others might also enjoy some of it.. it's a good little taste of how much more there is to explore learn and understand.
Tomster420
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Why could you only get one photo? Yeah man they are looking real nice
Some color coming into the leaves as well Chuck in another fan for good measure, don't want mold setting in..
Skunkworkz
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Looks great Grizz! . Frosty. As. Fuck.
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Why could you only get one photo? Yeah man they are looking real nice
iPhone is full
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Thanks Skunkworkz.
Yes, I did enjoy what you were posting! Something interesting (to me) that stood out so I made sure to read all of it as I got caught back up. Next order I place will have some Mr. Nice genetics for sure. Once I get into cloning and possibly some amateur breeding it will be nice to have a few different packs of those seeds I have been getting more interested in some of the older genetic lines and I have to say those pretty much nailed it. So is there no actual NL seeds anymore? All there is left is NL5 crosses? just curious about what happened there.. NL5 was the only keeper and was a male? Enlighten me people haha And thanks for the good conversation!
I have been getting more interested in some of the older genetic lines and I have to say those pretty much nailed it. So is there no actual NL seeds anymore? All there is left is NL5 crosses? just curious about what happened there.. NL5 was the only keeper and was a male? Enlighten me people haha And thanks for the good conversation!- Thread starter
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why shanti made ortega, bring it back in a way..
Ok, I getcha. I remember reading about that strain on the website now. NL1 and NL5.. close as one could get I guess, it's going on the list then!
Ortega... sounds like a winner. I might have to get some myself.
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Hermie issues... I think it was here I said this, anyways, there's a thread titled herm city... worth reading... basic synopsis.
dude blasts shanti for releasing it, Reasoning for it being released, ways to prevent the issue, the o.p ends with thanking shanti for the strain and advising everybody to have it in their garden..
dude blasts shanti for releasing it, Reasoning for it being released, ways to prevent the issue, the o.p ends with thanking shanti for the strain and advising everybody to have it in their garden..
Ok, you lost me there. So is it hermie prone or was the OP you were referring to full of shit?
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Can be hermi prone.. id say read the thread and decide for yourself.. lots gets answered in there.. Im growing it once arrives.. 1000w you'll be right.. the o.p shouldn't have started thread as he did..
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Shanti also talks about the clones taken will be a lot less sensitive to any stress than the seed plants.. so run the clones, they won't turn..
Tomster420
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Sounds like shitty genetics imo
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Couple different grow reports to the last smoke report I put up.. don't know who these growers are.
Morphote
One thing I learned a long time ago: you are always going to get a negative reaction when you tell people something they don't want to hear or believe, EVEN IF IT IS THE TRUTH. I was and am an avid supporter of MNS and all of its seed lines. Ortega was and is some of the best cannabis I have grown. Whether you blame me or not, my account is the truth. Both Nevil's and Shantis assessment of Ortega was that "you can't throw out the baby with the bath water", meaning this strain is sensitive and can herm, information I wish I had before I grew the seed. I don't blame anyone, and I maintain the genetics are superior EVEN WITH possible sensitivity issues. I would recommend this cultivar to anyone, and I would hope everyone posts as honest an account as mine. Trust me when I say posting my findings was not an easy thing to do. I knew what might happen. Take that for what it's worth, and good luck to you.
M.
Electro
I hope this post finds all whom read it healthy and living comfortably in a safe and peaceful place. To all others ...hang in there.
I ran 5 seeds the first time. 1 feme & 4 males. The lone female didn't hermie. She was super sleepy just didn't have a good terpene profile imho. Not bad just not any taste at all. Cloned it several times was a bit better each time in yield & shorter bloom time. I stopped after 4 rounds of her.
Next run of 3 yielded 1 lady. She was nearly identical to first female last run. No thanks.
Just ran 5 again. Wow, 5 females. #5 hermied late and was similar to first two females in prev runs. "Herm" pollinated #2 of 5 it was similar to other prev females. #1 had very intense sweet fruity scent but flavor didn't match her scent. She was quick to bloom as was #3. Both #1 & #3 were in a race to finish AND see how big they could get.
Now, let me tell about #3. She is a something to marvel my friends! Yes, indeed. This girl is the one I have been waiting for. Reminds me of the best Afghani I ever smoked. Heads up: It will proceed you when you walk into a crowded room so have her locked down airtight. Still may not contain this reakness.
She is a late starter out of veg but once in bloom and established she takes off. She turned a light shade of purple in her close knit leaves and some in her calyaxes(sp?) a week before I harvested her. #1 & #3 I cut at 8 weeks #2 & #4 at 9 weeks.
Back to #3. While in bloom, she is dank smelling. She has a MKS/Skunk shunk pheno type scent except WITHOUT broadcasting herself to the whole neighborhood like the MKS/Skunk skunk pheno I mentioned.
She tastes like she smells also. Watch out she'll take your breath away. Not in a harsh way but in an "I'm gonna kick your ass" kind of way. Which she just might if you're a lightweight.
She's not as sleepy as I need but that will happen next round when I let her get a lot of amber trichome heads. I feel she will not lose a whole of her terpene profile either as her flavor is that intense. Keeping fingers crossed on both areas.
These last five were all harvested on the early early side of the "window" meaning less than 50% milky trichomes. All but #5 were kept as clones. #1 clone was veg'd and in bloom before #2 & #4 from seed were even finished blooming! #3 clone went to bloom a week later.
#1 could be one of those 6 week girls the rate she running at.
#4 is very unique. She packs a punch right out of the gate. Can't describe her taste yet but I'll get back to you on her in the near future. Unlike any other Ortega so far.
I can't cast negativity on a strain I didn't take care of properly. Most cases will be my error I admit. #5 she could've been stressed here & there. All 5 got heat stressed a few times. Only #5 hermied. I had one incident when humidity got to 65% & unfortunately I pushed them too hard in bloom(630 ppm) and their leaf tips burnt pretty bad. Second rounders #1 & #3 are cruising along quite well at 420 ppm in bloom. Go figure.
This round's nutrients were Maxigrow & Maxibloom granulated. I used Jack's Blossom booster 10-30-20 twice in bloom. They all work well and I highly recommend them. But I just switched to the 25lb bags of Growmore Mendocino line. Veg, Bloom, and Hula. due to cost savings and shelf life.
If you haven't tried granular.....
I transitioned the nutes versus a hard change the second go round on their clones and #1 & #3 are responding a whole lot better.
Can't report to you about yield yet until I get these ladies 100% dialed in.
To wrap this long post up I'm obviously keeping #3. I'm likely to keep #4 at least several more rounds. #1 & #2 will go once more also. I have to give every new strain from seed a 2nd & 3rd chance as I always find them better the next go round. They teach me better as we get better acquainted.
I'm indoor since '01. 100% DWC. Sunleaves non round big rocks in 6" net lids 5 gal black buckets.
Discharge water from my RO filter. It's 210 ppm from 140 ppm tap.
1000W HPS on 9' ceiling in a 6' x 5' bloom room w/12.25 hours off
400W MH as a launch pad @18/6 Born from super starter plugs.
A ton of fresh air properly vented & filtered. Pretty fairly managed temps.
Any questions?
Thanks Shanti & Nevil & crew. RIP Mr Marks.
Bluntmassa
Join Date: Jul 2012
I honestly didn't even get a single nanner from my pack so probably try to keep the stress down.
Morphote
One thing I learned a long time ago: you are always going to get a negative reaction when you tell people something they don't want to hear or believe, EVEN IF IT IS THE TRUTH. I was and am an avid supporter of MNS and all of its seed lines. Ortega was and is some of the best cannabis I have grown. Whether you blame me or not, my account is the truth. Both Nevil's and Shantis assessment of Ortega was that "you can't throw out the baby with the bath water", meaning this strain is sensitive and can herm, information I wish I had before I grew the seed. I don't blame anyone, and I maintain the genetics are superior EVEN WITH possible sensitivity issues. I would recommend this cultivar to anyone, and I would hope everyone posts as honest an account as mine. Trust me when I say posting my findings was not an easy thing to do. I knew what might happen. Take that for what it's worth, and good luck to you.
M.
Electro
I hope this post finds all whom read it healthy and living comfortably in a safe and peaceful place. To all others ...hang in there.
I ran 5 seeds the first time. 1 feme & 4 males. The lone female didn't hermie. She was super sleepy just didn't have a good terpene profile imho. Not bad just not any taste at all. Cloned it several times was a bit better each time in yield & shorter bloom time. I stopped after 4 rounds of her.
Next run of 3 yielded 1 lady. She was nearly identical to first female last run. No thanks.
Just ran 5 again. Wow, 5 females. #5 hermied late and was similar to first two females in prev runs. "Herm" pollinated #2 of 5 it was similar to other prev females. #1 had very intense sweet fruity scent but flavor didn't match her scent. She was quick to bloom as was #3. Both #1 & #3 were in a race to finish AND see how big they could get.
Now, let me tell about #3. She is a something to marvel my friends! Yes, indeed. This girl is the one I have been waiting for. Reminds me of the best Afghani I ever smoked. Heads up: It will proceed you when you walk into a crowded room so have her locked down airtight. Still may not contain this reakness.
She is a late starter out of veg but once in bloom and established she takes off. She turned a light shade of purple in her close knit leaves and some in her calyaxes(sp?) a week before I harvested her. #1 & #3 I cut at 8 weeks #2 & #4 at 9 weeks.
Back to #3. While in bloom, she is dank smelling. She has a MKS/Skunk shunk pheno type scent except WITHOUT broadcasting herself to the whole neighborhood like the MKS/Skunk skunk pheno I mentioned.
She tastes like she smells also. Watch out she'll take your breath away. Not in a harsh way but in an "I'm gonna kick your ass" kind of way. Which she just might if you're a lightweight.
She's not as sleepy as I need but that will happen next round when I let her get a lot of amber trichome heads. I feel she will not lose a whole of her terpene profile either as her flavor is that intense. Keeping fingers crossed on both areas.
These last five were all harvested on the early early side of the "window" meaning less than 50% milky trichomes. All but #5 were kept as clones. #1 clone was veg'd and in bloom before #2 & #4 from seed were even finished blooming! #3 clone went to bloom a week later.
#1 could be one of those 6 week girls the rate she running at.
#4 is very unique. She packs a punch right out of the gate. Can't describe her taste yet but I'll get back to you on her in the near future. Unlike any other Ortega so far.
I can't cast negativity on a strain I didn't take care of properly. Most cases will be my error I admit. #5 she could've been stressed here & there. All 5 got heat stressed a few times. Only #5 hermied. I had one incident when humidity got to 65% & unfortunately I pushed them too hard in bloom(630 ppm) and their leaf tips burnt pretty bad. Second rounders #1 & #3 are cruising along quite well at 420 ppm in bloom. Go figure.
This round's nutrients were Maxigrow & Maxibloom granulated. I used Jack's Blossom booster 10-30-20 twice in bloom. They all work well and I highly recommend them. But I just switched to the 25lb bags of Growmore Mendocino line. Veg, Bloom, and Hula. due to cost savings and shelf life.
If you haven't tried granular.....
I transitioned the nutes versus a hard change the second go round on their clones and #1 & #3 are responding a whole lot better.
Can't report to you about yield yet until I get these ladies 100% dialed in.
To wrap this long post up I'm obviously keeping #3. I'm likely to keep #4 at least several more rounds. #1 & #2 will go once more also. I have to give every new strain from seed a 2nd & 3rd chance as I always find them better the next go round. They teach me better as we get better acquainted.
I'm indoor since '01. 100% DWC. Sunleaves non round big rocks in 6" net lids 5 gal black buckets.
Discharge water from my RO filter. It's 210 ppm from 140 ppm tap.
1000W HPS on 9' ceiling in a 6' x 5' bloom room w/12.25 hours off
400W MH as a launch pad @18/6 Born from super starter plugs.
A ton of fresh air properly vented & filtered. Pretty fairly managed temps.
Any questions?
Thanks Shanti & Nevil & crew. RIP Mr Marks.
Bluntmassa
Join Date: Jul 2012
I honestly didn't even get a single nanner from my pack so probably try to keep the stress down.
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Just like to have it all out there when friends saying they going to buy something..
Tomster420
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That sounds a lot better, #3 sounds intense
Hmmm... I don't have the space or patience for that level of commitment just yet.
Thanks Grizz!
Thanks Grizz!
mouser
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kinda bummed I dont have any in this next batch coming in 