Grizz,
Red @ Legends Seeds did lots of work w the Ortega in the early 2000's, you'd probably find more data in your search if you looked into that angle as well.
In the past I've run Legends Ortega work, and tbh I didn't care for it, myself, but I wasn't deep into indicas at the time so my opinions wouldn't be considered unbiased.
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absolute with old line Skunk, Haze, or NL holds utterly true:
You have to select from a wide pool to get a superior mother. And 99.9999% of growers aren't willing to invest the time and space to do it right. The new trend of people growing 1-3 seeds & thinking they've run something "as described" in the seed company description, is utter bollocks but most "modern" growers don't understand how plant breeding and selecting for mothers actually works-which is why so many people's "P1" selections are completely forgettable. In the last five years I've seen, out of 100s of samples of selected mothers I've run across, about TWO selections that shouldn't have been fed into a wood chipper. TWO. If someone hasn't run a mom at least three times, they've not really grown it.
The last great(!) NL selection I saw, was in 1990, from Neville's NL5x2. For instance.
I'll be looking about for a Skunk selection, possibly later this year. If I do, I'll be selecting from at least a pool of 40, and even then wether or not I find what I'm looking for is a shitshoot. But you can't win if you don't play.
Run 40 seeds. Label. Select for traits. Clone target P1s. Flower corresponding P1s. Sample. Run selected target clones after cloning again. Sample. Rinse, repeat.
People need to be patient and do things the right way, none of this is fast, contrary to popular legend.
Oops.
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