Recess Is Over - Now To Muck Up The Lesson

Yeah Aussie, I've noticed some of these have been popped and are currently growing in a greenhouse. . I'll be able to watch and decide which to crack myself.
Black thumbs, just harvested the three (1,2&3) so far.. I didn't take photos as I'd taken some only couple days earlier.. here's one I took though, top of three..

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Enjoy the sunshine mate :passitleft: we also had a nice day today. our months average rainfall is forcast for next three days though :( I cruising mate. Work eat check grow sleep is my life at mo. As sad as that sounds, I like it :rofl:
 
GrizzWald said:
Enjoy the sunshine mate :passitleft: we also had a nice day today. our months average rainfall is forcast for next three days though :( I cruising mate. Work eat check grow sleep is my life at mo. As sad as that sounds, I like it :rofl:
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:passitleft: about to mow the lawns.. so much for the month and half of rain in three days, not a drop :rofl: forecast says no rain until later next week :rofl:it must be nice to be able to completely guess your work and have the population still listen. If most were so off at their jobs, they wouldn't have one :rofl:
 
I'm glad to hear it's not just South African forecasters who can't tell their assholes from their elbows.
 
Night4wings20 said:
Hey grizz thought i'd ask you something..
I've grown a couple plants this year that I'm trying to figure out what it possibly is.
All I know about the strain is that it's from Aus around the 90's.
It tastes like sandlwood/cedar mixed with a sought of spicy incense aftertaste.
Any ideas of what it could be or maybe could you point me in the right direction as to find out what were the most popular strains of the 90's?
Cheers mate

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I'm trying to get into landraces/heirloom strains and i always thought "Could this seed from the 90's be something special or what?"
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Nightwings- at least in my not so vast strain experience, to me that just kind of screams Thai. But there could be strains from other parts that have that spicy sandalwood kind of smell- I haven't grown them all by a long shot.
Thai was the first bud I smoked. In my area (BC Canada) in the mid eighties it was one of the most common types we would get. It disappeared here by the 90s because overseas imports pretty much died out and after that we only got American and Canadian bud. Also Thailand was my home away from home for several years starting around 1990, and I smoked plenty while there. It was disappointing to get back home and find nothing but heavy indicas available.

Also the leaves on your rather blurry photo have a similar look to the Thai strain I usually grow. Leaves are fairly large and tend to hang downward sometimes as the ones in your photo do. Re the leaves, here's a link to a photo of a Thai strain I sometimes grow (a cross of two different Thais). The Hexapus's Garden

And here is a link to a post of some Thai pics from my first journal- chosen at random. Thai is in all my journals though. Oh No - It's A Green Hole! - Reverse Thrusters! - Dammit - Too Late! It's a scrog so looks a little different. Also I've snipped the tips of some of the buds (back building). You can tell which ones were 'back built' by any buds that are not pointy-tipped. One thing distinctive about the Thai bud I've seen is that the buds often have that very pointy tip, with a weird tapered look kind of like a giant wasp's ass. Buds are often large, lots of pistils but still rather leafy. Fluffy, and they dry with lots of red hairs. A nice happy high- trippy and uplifting.
 
Weaselcracker said:
Nightwings- at least in my not so vast strain experience, to me that just kind of screams Thai. But there could be strains from other parts that have that spicy sandalwood kind of smell- I haven't grown them all by a long shot.
Thai was the first bud I smoked. In my area (BC Canada) in the mid eighties it was one of the most common types we would get. It disappeared here by the 90s because overseas imports pretty much died out and after that we only got American and Canadian bud. Also Thailand was my home away from home for several years starting around 1990, and I smoked plenty while there. It was disappointing to get back home and find nothing but heavy indicas available.

Also the leaves on your rather blurry photo have a similar look to the Thai strain I usually grow. Leaves are fairly large and tend to hang downward sometimes as the ones in your photo do. Re the leaves, here's a link to a photo of a Thai strain I sometimes grow (a cross of two different Thais). The Hexapus's Garden

And here is a link to a post of some Thai pics from my first journal- chosen at random. Thai is in all my journals though. Oh No - It's A Green Hole! - Reverse Thrusters! - Dammit - Too Late! It's a scrog so looks a little different. Also I've snipped the tips of some of the buds (back building). You can tell which ones were 'back built' by any buds that are not pointy-tipped. One thing distinctive about the Thai bud I've seen is that the buds often have that very pointy tip, with a weird tapered look kind of like a giant wasp's ass. Buds are often large, lots of pistils but still rather leafy. Fluffy, and they dry with lots of red hairs. A nice happy high- trippy and uplifting.
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Awesome info weasel, I've read up a fair bit on where weed was imported from during the course of history in Australia. Being close to Thailand it wouldn't surprise me if this strain does have at least some if not a decent portion of Thai genetics. I'm trying to get out of the commercial weed scene and find some rarities in landrace/heirloom beans. I mean i love the look of so many strains that it's hard to make a decision on what to buy. I've been reading a lot of landrace based info (Including Conradino's landrace thread) and i must say that i'm more interested in landrace/heirloom genetics than hype strains. Unfortunately i wasn't smoking weed in the 90's since i was just born so i'm trying to play catch up for all the years of smoking and collecting that happened before me.

Yeah sorry about that haha, wasn't too keen on taking photos this time. Next time will be different :thumb:

The way you describe the look of the buds and how the high feels is pretty much dead on. Very uplifting (almost soaring) to the point where as you said it starts to feel trippy.

I'm smoking some now and I took a few photos of a couple buds;
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Does this look familiar to you weasel/anyone?

Again Thank you for your contribution of information :cheertwo::Namaste:
 
I think yours is probably Thai crossed with something. But the smell is Thai all the way by the sounds of it. (Sound of the smell)
Not many pure Thai strains around right now. WOS has Wild Thai, which gets mixed reviews but may be ok. Then there are a bunch of crosses with 'Thai' in the name which I wouldn't bother with if it's pure Thai you want.
Golden Tiger is a Malawi female crossed with a Thai male. But at least the one I grew smells like straight up Thai, and has a similar effect. Very good strain. The main Thai strain I grow now is Mama Thai from Seedsman, which is an IBL -close to landrace, inbred for larger buds and shorter flowering. I also grew a landrace from Ace called Thai Stick, which was from northeast Thailand and supposed to be the same stuff they used to make the sticks with. It was basically a smaller and longer flowering version of the Mama Thai- same look and smell. I made a bunch of crosses with it including Mama Thai/Thai Stick.
I don't know of any other pure Thai genetics available- last I looked anyway.
A few other Ace strains carry Thai genetics. I think the male Thai strain they used in Golden Tiger may have been a three-way blend of Thais from different parts of the country (if I remember right). But in my experience -Thai is Thai. Obviously you'll find special plants now and then and maybe some small local variations, but the Thai strain is basically pretty much the same thing all over the country. Same appearance and smell. Strength varies from mild (usually) to surprisingly strong (like a happy acid trip).
 
I only just realised now that nights plant is in a pot. That changes a lot of how I was looking at i.. I thought it was a bean of a 90's strain, not a bean from the 90's.. all the good hazes or the expression you want from a haze leans on the Thai side.. nevils haze being the best, or get a little more Aussie with it and go La Niña, selecting the Thai/haze/Mullumbimby phenos.. ace I'm looking forward to trying some of their stuff, no matter how questionable their genetics are (yes weasel, that sucks, some of the shit that's read)... a lot of our weed in Aus has a very typical Thai expression, being either crosses or just environmental expressions. There's also some debate/thought at the moment that suggests that there's only one cannabis family, not sativa & indica but all same just expressed differently through environment and time..
 
I always think of this when hearing talk of 'landraces:rofl:'... I mean, with the years of travel and setting up these businesses with the best genetics, did they leave some of the best at the other villages :rofl: what did they make the hybrids out of :rofl: even the FBI or CIA whoever those dudes are green merchant stop the drugs cops are, their head praised and astonished at the level of breeding that went into cannabis... anyway, here's some thoughts I like on it..

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In planning for the approximately 3 square meters of garden I'd decided to use for broccoli, I scoured the internet for the appropriate genetics. After much research I decided on a heritage pure strain of broccoli, one of the foundation varieties used in modern hybrids. It made me feel important, giving meaning to those 3 square meters. A noble pursuit, saviour of the broccoli universe, Broccoli Man! I bought the seeds.

I terraformed the garden changed it from a sand pit to an earth worm orgy. I planted my precious heritage seeds. The growth was impressive (am I a genius?)
beautiful dark green leaves, this is going to be great. Finally the broccoli heads start forming. What do I get?

Perfectly healthy primitive broccoli. Smallish, open heads with coarse flowers.
A perfect representative of the strain. People come to admire the work of the master. Hmmph, a bit small, are you sure it's broccoli? (I feel my penis getting smaller). Yeah but,.... it's a pure strain....I'm saving the universe you know... I'm broccoli man.

What can I do to save the day? Maybe I can find some EGO BOOSTING HORMONE and inject the bloody things.

What I really wanted was ego boosting genetics. The mega hybrid, something that fizzed, a huge head the size of a basket ball. I can imagine the compliments. Gee, that's big and so hard. (I'm feeling better already). This is what most people want, I worked that out 25 years ago.

Breeding seeds for the grower is primarily about finding out which hybrids give the most "bang for your buck". It's not as easy as it sounds. You have to find the right combinations and constantly refine your pure lines to give new improved versions of the super hybrids. People will accuse you of being a hack, "only" selling hybrids. Pay no attention, they really want the big sticky mega buds.

Next year I'm growing hybrid broccoli.
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On a lighter note I am quite interested to see what Nevil can do with brocoli.

I fed the heritage broccoli to the guinnea pigs and bought some hybrids that will produce large heads that will make me look good.
The point of the story, apart from trying to entertain you, was to help you in choosing which direction you want to go when purchasing seeds. People would often come to me asking for pure strains, full of noble intentions (like broccoli man), when what they really wanted was the super hybrid that gave them the idea that they are top growers.
We identify with our plants/strains. Do you want the short term or the long term rewards?
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When I grow broccoli, I'm really trying to put food on the table. Many people grow cannabis for the same reason. There's not much point in growing pure heritage strains unless you want to make your own hybrids and sell seeds. With only three square meters of garden available for broccoli, I should get real and accept my limitations.
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Well- humans come along and label stuff to suit us. But a 'landrace' is just something that (we imagine) stayed stable over a period of time. In reality things are always changing. City people are always moving to the place I live in and talking about how 'wild and undeveloped' it is- when they can't see how much it's changed even in last 30 years, from people like them come along and developing everything. We seem to love the romance of 'wild and untamed'- but judging by people's actions- they sure like tamed better.
Its true though that the Thai strain seems pretty stable and developed as its own variety. I've been to every corner of that country and it all seemed pretty similar in most ways- though the strength would vary a lot sometimes. Landraces are important for breeding. As Graytail put it- it's like colours. Mix them too much and you can't unmix them. You need those primary colours if you want to have your options open. If you lose your source of blue paint- well, you can't make blue no matter how much you mix the other colours together.
My experience with Thai Stick got me to the same conclusion. It was a straight up Thai weed - same smell and appearance and effect but quite weak. I'm sure the guy who sold it to whoever sold it to Ace was telling the truth and it's the same basic stuff they used for Thai Stick.
But I don't really need a weak 16-18 week strain with smallish buds. First thing I would do is grow out a hundred seeds and breed for strength, shorter flowering, and bigger buds of the same basic strain.
So then with luck I would get something like Mama Thai.
I did save seeds of the Thai Stick though, and a bunch of crosses from it.
 
we are so limited now though mate..there's no 1000's of plant selection, so really almost impossible to improve,unless you get lucky.. yes I agree about not being able to take a single colour from the mix (yet)( good? Not sure) .. selecting what to grow and make own crosses is where we should be looking. We grow to get high, which is a noble pursuit in itself and the growing plant should reflect for this, not the other way around..
 
abour this mixing and unmixing. Nevils said a similar thing,how some mistakes can't be taken back. But I believe that it wouldn't take long for them to receded and express what the environment allows. Wouldn't take many crops to go from seedless beauties to unruly feral herms.. you'll always get an odd showing of a great great grandparent, but that's natural.. wonder how long it'd take the Aussie sun to change a squat afghan into a long tall Aussie sat..
 
Didn't expect to wake up to this conversation lol. Nice one guys! The more and more I learn about Australian cannabis importation history and word of mouth history the more it seems that this "90's" cross that I was gifted has thai genetics in it. Geological placement and how much the thai weed traveled can attribute to that conclusion. Now my next question would be; Is it something special as it wasn't a bought commercial seed?

I can tell you all that when I gifted this these seeds I was told that the person whom originally had them "is trying to get this strain back". So I assume that this 90's strain was pretty popular during that time period here in Australia then it lost it's popularity for what ever reason (most likely imports were being stopped or maybe crackdown on cannabis growing in Thailand?) and now I'm one of the people who got these to bring the strain back into the fray. Even if it's not super special I still feel like i've been passed something important and I have a duty to bring back this strain to the masses :P

Oh btw I also have a bunch of seeds ranging from the 70's-90's given to me by my partner's dad. He has been smoking since he was young and lived in the sydney area. 2 of them i know are called budda/buddha and another called purple hair.

Apologies for the randomness of my rambling. Tis how I am :Namaste:
 
GrizzWald said:
abour this mixing and unmixing. Nevils said a similar thing,how some mistakes can't be taken back. But I believe that it wouldn't take long for them to receded and express what the environment allows. Wouldn't take many crops to go from seedless beauties to unruly feral herms.. you'll always get an odd showing of a great great grandparent, but that's natural.. wonder how long it'd take the Aussie sun to change a squat afghan into a long tall Aussie sat..
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Is this what you're talking about grizz? This Afghani was pretty big/tall...
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The use of marijuana is prevalent all around the world. The drug is known to create feelings of calm and reduce anxiety for users. A new study indicates that Australia may have the strongest, and potentially most dangerous, marijuana available.

Marijuana's strength is measured by its THC content, the drug's active ingredient. The level of THC has been steadily increasing in marijuana over the past 10 years. Data indicates that in America, marijuana contained an average of three percent THC in 1993, while in 2008 THC levels nearly tripled to nine percent. However, this isn't even close to the THC levels in Austrailia.


A new study by the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre indicates that Australian marijuana is by far the strongest in the world. In measures of THC content, much of the marijuana seized from people on the streets there contains an average of 15 percent THC, and can go as high as 40 percent THC.
Researchers were interested in where the Australian marijuana was grown, as location may have an effect on THC content. They found that regardless of indoor or outdoor cultivation, the marijuana coming from Australia's NSW region tended to have levels of THC that were out of control.

Experts, according to The Sydney Morning Herald, feel that more than 15 percent of THC should be considered an illicit substance as the adverse effects can be likened to the negative effects of controlled and illegal drugs like cocaine.

Thanks to Australia's marijuana strength, the country could oust Amsterdam as the world's "weed capital" — that is, until all of the incredibly strong marijuana is deemed illegal.
 
No apologies for random babblings here needed.. it's how this journal moves, lol..
I would really love to get the cape trib seeds. Mate who lived at 1770 always reminisces about the acid weed from up there..
 
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