Random Thoughts: Plants & Genetics

I got that beat LMAO. I was in a group home when I was in the 9th grade. Of course I was a dope smoking hippie in those days. All the seeds we cleaned out went out the window we smoked by. They found a whole crop of seeds growing there the next spring. Most were 10" to a foot tall by the time someone found them.
 
Someone probably found what I found from the Columbian Gold from World of Seeds. It has lots of potential. Lots of landrace stuff has been worked over to do a little better indoors. Sometimes they keep all their own qualities and just grow bigger and stronger.

That has me wondering. Skunk #1 is a mix of Columbian, Mexican, and Afghani. All these strains has been worked over in one way or another by someone. I think it might be time to make Skunk 2.0 with the worked over stuff. I have almost everything I need. I have the worked over C.G. from world of seeds to start with. I have 3 worked over Mexican strains.
Acapulco Gold, Barnes Farm
Mexican Sativa, Sensi Seeds?
Pina Rita, TGA
I would have to do some checking to see which one is the closest regionally. I have Afghani seeds but only one pack. I would need to do some checking to figure out the best worked over Afghani.

Thing is you would want them to be as close to the original landrace genetics as possible. Just with more THC, better production and flower time.

DNA did this with their R.K.S. strain. That is the reason I grew it out. It was good but not great. Pretty sure it was made with pure landrace though. My guess is that they did this in the search for Roadkill Skunk. What I got didn't come close. It was as strong just didn't have much skunk to it.
 
I wonder what is hiding in my Columbian Punto Rojo x ( Mazar x Guerrero)s genetics?

I really want to make some stabilized crosses. I started a project to build my own purple sativa auto strain... I at least made some F2s and tested them to see if they germed.... they need to be tested for the auto and purple traits and crossed accordingly, like 6 more times or something.

Someone actually requested in another thread that I make a Dark Devil Auto into a stabilized photoperiod plant.... there might be something lucrative in that. Like you were saying about maybe crossing TTB to an auto. You got my wheels turning now, Jackalope.....
 
It would be harder to keep it auto then to turn it into a photo or something in between. If what they say is true and the Auto gene is reseccive then your only choice would be to do it as a early strain.

You already have the TTB x Dark Devil to look at. Cross it the other way and see what happens. If TTB does let the traits other strains shine through while adding crystal and size. It is worth checking both ways. My mentor told me if you really want a hybrid to work cross it both ways to find what you are looking for.

There is a chance that one of those hybrids would be fine just as it is. If not then you have lots of ways to go. You could back cross either way or cross it with the other hybrid. Somewhere along the lines you should get what you are looking for. The main thing would be to keep it early and fast. You may already have it from the looks of the hybrid you have going. If not the crossing the other way should give you another starting point. The F-1 seeds may be just what you want with no need for backcrosses.
 
We have hit the point in the grow when crystal shows up. Perfect time to start taking a few pictures. Cinderella 99 is going to finish first so we might as well show her first. All phenos are pretty damn close to exact which is what C-99 gives you. Height is the only difference. Feeding these enough but not to much is going to be a problem. They will be finished in around 4 weeks from now I don't have much time.
C-99

I got this picture in a different place. I like the lighting on it going to need to check into different color bulbs for my photo lights. It is C-99 also

Next up we have Juicy Fruit Critical. Long sativa leaves on this bad boy. The largest pheno has huge leaves I will need to show soon pictures of them soon. This is by far the most sativa looking plant I have and it is only about 50% sativa or so.The high leans towards indica with some nice psychoactive properties.
Critical


Last but never least is Killer Queen. Different phenos showing up with this strain. While they are budding as fast as the C-99 they are all slightly different. That is a good thing. The Basic Skunk 19 hybrid had C-99 dominant plants. I am not seeing it quite as much crossed with the Airborne G-13. I have one pheno that looks nothing like Cindy so I am thinking it is Airborne G-13 dom. Killer Queen does look like it is packing on more trichomes than the C-99 is. Even took the time to do a close up of it.
Killer Queen



as you can tell nothing is dead so all is going well LMAO. I am noticing slight leaf yellowing on a couple plants. Looks like the guano went over pretty well. It should be kicking in over the next watering or 2. Now I just need to slip in a little Cal/Mag and then start with some bud building nuits.
 
Looking great my friend!! I through the GI.JANES in the flower tent last night!!! I can't wait to see what she does. Her smell honestly seems to get stronger by the day!!
Hope you have a good day bro!!!
 
I mentioned in a message to you that the G.I.Jane did really good up Canada way. Just thought you should know so you don't F**k it up LMAO.
Your the go to guy for the Blue Collar but it seems my first 2 hybrids are working out. Not hard to claim success when you are working with great genetics. I will anyway LMAO.

For a long time all my homemade genetics were all made to continue the strain and are F-2's. The guy knew genetics so he did it right. They were meant to find a pheno for a mother and run with them. The best F-2's were good enough to grow from seed. They were all also grown for production. The end goal was different.

What I am doing now is just for smoking so it changes breeding altogether. If it produces fine. It is the slap you in the face strength that I am looking for. Strength is still a relative term. There is a big difference in THC content in the weed I have now but I still consider them all to be good. It doesn't have to be the strongest someone has smoked. It has to be the best something though. Smell, flavor or quality of high it has to stand out.

After canceling my plans to try and make a hybrid with the Alpha Dawg. I used the last of any pollen left on the reversed plant to hit the Killer Queen one last time. Might as well improve my odds of Killer Head.
 
Quality is always better than quality! I was curious about hydro and considered trying it. Now I'm thinking I might just try to go completely organic in soil. Mainly trying to find better quality. Your killer head cross sounds like a great idea
 
I wonder about Hydro all the time. The one I originally thought would be my choice was going to be a airaponics setup. I don't even know ff they make them any more LOL. All those cloning machines are based on the same system.

Now I would lean towards DWC. Switching is a scary thing. I have a couple friends using systems like that so I wouldn't be totally lost. Still it is hard to change when things are working. Lots of things can change so no telling what will happen in the future. I think I would go with 5 gallon pots and a longer veg first for more production.

I still have and will always use Miracle Grow. It is only for Veg from now on. Guanos can and will do the job in flower. I didn't find that organic made things taste better. Nothing was that much different. It definitely didn't hurt flavor and is easier to use than lots of other products. So many factors can effect flavors. Maybe what I did and how I used them didn't give them a time to shine.
 
Damn Cinderella flowers fast. You can almost watch this strain flower. Like other strain growth in veg. The rate they grow from one day to day is next is like nothing I have ever grown. I think learning this is key to finding the 4 ounce per plant they say it can produce.
You basically need to give them everything they need in half the time you would for normal plants. More of a learning curve for this strain than most others just because of this. Most plants will grow slow enough to give you time to relax between feedings lol. The time most plants waste stretching C-99 is building buds.

One problem I have found because of this. It sure makes others strains look bad. You are seeing great buds on the C-99 way before others. They look like they are lesser plants when they have barely even started to build buds yet.

At least I hope. If not I am going to have lots of C-99 and not much else.

I started adding some Cal/Mag to everything yesterday. Nothing is showing any deficiencies yet. There is a bad spot or 2 on some of the leaves. My mentor told me years ago to use cal.mag when you start seeing leaf damage. I am not sure if this is the stage he meant or not. I wanted to get in in early. Cal/Mag and to much nitrogen may have been the reason behind the shitty burn I am getting from the first crop. They should have eaten up everything else. My thoughts are it was there and they didn't need it so it never got used up. This kept it in the plant material unused.

My big bitch this last grow was the burn. To much Black and not enough grey to the ash. I guess this is better than shitty weed with a good burn. This is as bad as My weed has ever burned. I have to equate it to the feeding problems I ran into last grow. I had to add stuff later than I wanted just to get them to where they were.

I also notice a 5 degree difference in the 2 tents. The big tent is running cooler than the smaller one. You can see the difference in bud size. With both tents at the same time in flower makes it easier to notice. I missed it last grow because the tents were a week apart. It looks like that is part of the equation that went into the plants in the small tent did better. I am working on raising the temp a little bit without it getting to high. I will be trying baby steps because to cool is still better than to warm. Things are not that bad. Hard to get just a few degrees when you are not running on a thermostat. This is something I would rather it stayed the same then change too much.
 
Got some weekly updates today. Everything is still doing really well. Temp in the 60 x 60 tent could be better but the plants are still doing ok. When I mentioned that the small tent was budding better than the larger one. I was kind of wrong. There is a difference but it is only slight. The main difference is the small tent is full of mostly C-99 and Killer Queen both early strains. So we will start with it.
Pretty much everything is frosty in this tent. All my feeding have went over well and at this point I have seen no deficiencies at all. One Cinderella 99 is just huge. Because of the early flowering of this strain I started with a light dose of bud booster to all the C-99's. By the time I normally add it C-99 will be done or in flush. Trying to make this strain do more might be tricky. Big shouldn't be a problem and strong won't be a problem. Will I get it flushed in time is the big question.

Now for the bigger tent. All the strains in this tent have longer flowering times so are not budding quite as fast. Frost is the biggest difference between plants in this tent. Some strains are showing lots of trichomes while others seem lacking. That was at first glance. The Snow Dawg 3 didn't seem to have the coverage that the other strains have. On a closer look they are there just tiny ones. Even coverage is close to the same you just don't notice them as much because of the size. These look kind of like the small trichomes that end up looking like dust and not diamonds. Something I have found before. Still lots of time for things to change. The 3 Snow Dawgs are probably my biggest mystery this grow.
You can't see it as it is behind the right corner. The tall Gorilla Zkittlez is still going strong and is still the tallest plant. It is by far the frostiest pheno. The Cannalope Haze in the right rear is catching up to it in height. It is done stretching now so it will probably never catch up.
 
As far as I can tell right now MAYBE. LMAO. Gorilla Zkittlez is impressive. I got different phenos so that a good thing. I will get a better idea of what it can do. I will get some plant specific pics for you guys soon.

I think I mentioned the tallest pheno is growing very similar to the Glueberry. The Glueberry had good Gorilla Glue smell. From the genetics in G.G. I am pretty sure this plant is GG dominate. It is also the frostiest plant. Not that the others are not frosty they are. Trichome coverage doesn't go as far out on the fan leaves on the other phenos. This doesn't really make it stronger. Just more sweet leaf.

Really not to sure about the Snowdawgs. Which is really stupid. I had lots of stuff I could have run instead. Like I mentioned trichome coverage on these plants isn't keeping up with the others. Small or not. All this can change some strains pack them on later.. I do know one thing. It should produce. If all theses branches and all these buds stay healthy and fed I can't see then not producing well. I really expected the Chemdawg leaning one to show something different but the trichome coverage is the same as the others. As of right now I am hoping for good flavor and a indica buzz because I am unsure how strong it will turn out.

The Alpha Dawg and the Chemdawg look like sisters. Snowdawg is in the middle genetics wise. All strains are from different companies so some differences is expected. One thing I can say about the Snowdawg 3. Every one of these regular seeds was female.
 
Wow almost went through the day without running my mouth/keyboard LOL.

Funny because I have killer news. Last night while watering the seed tent. I noticed a seed pushed out of the top bud of one of the Headband clones. Where there is one there should be more. The seed that showed up will probably be useless but it is a good indicator. One I needed. I have been watching and have not seen much from any plant. On closer inspection I can see at least one more forming. Headband, Tangilope, and Basic 99 clones all were in this tent the whole time the reversed Headband was flowering. The 27th of this month will be 5 weeks after I removed the male. That is my target date now for harvesting any plant from this tent. If plants mature before that date they will be left to finish seeds. Even the 27th isn't for sure. It is the only the not before time. Hopefully I will get to see a bunch of seeds to confirm harvest time. As of now I can't help but be excited. I have the very best Headband crossed with a great indica leaning pheno and the big light smelling pheno of Headband. The same light smelling one that ended with as good as the rest in the end it just didn't smell much growing. Either plant makes seeds and I will be happy to grow them. The other hybrids can't help but be good if seeds are there. They both were the best phenos of their strains. That Tangilope clone is frostier now then it was the first time. Cinderella 99 and Killer Queen both where touched with the reversed plant. Both plants have a few red hairs that shouldn't be there at this time so maybe a couple more seeds LOL.

After looking at the Gorilla Zkittlez in the small tent I was going to say it isn't going to produce much. I really don't know that yet. I figured I would show you some pictures of WHY I thought it might not produce much.

The Cinderellas in this tent are just beasts. They are not big plants. They just have big attitude. Not many plants would look impressive next to these. The pictures are not great but they get the point across. This isn't even the biggest plant. there is one exactly like it only 4 inches taller and wider in the big tent. These pictures kind of show how much bud Cinderella 99 can pack on. Still lots of time these will get bigger and harder in no time.



 
Thanks. I will get to see how long a lot of these strains can go. Like I said the 27th is the earliest date I will harvest. Some of these plants are wanting to finish sooner from the looks of them. Now to see how long they stay is ready mode with out degrading THC. It doesn't really matter. All these plants are for future seeds and oil for edibles. Strains harvested late tend have more body so that is fine with me. Going to need a lot of oil to last a year.

I have been trash talking Snowdawg for days now. The 1 plant I expected the most out of is showing hardly any trichomes. It is the one that looks just like the Chem and the Alpha Dawg. It has the least amount of trichomes of all the plants this grow. The Chem and A.D. are covered in frost. The 2 huge phenos look like they will produce lots more and has trichome coverage, they are just tiny. That is not a tell all but it does say something. The fact that there is going to be lots of it is kind of a slap in the face LOL. Damn good thing there wasn't a male with this strain. I might have been foolish enough to use it.

I love to be proved wrong by plants. For this one to do it it is going to have to be in flavor and quality of high. No way it is going to be high THC the way things are looking now. Their size is the only impressive thing as of yet. If it can at least have a good indica buzz I can turn it into oil. I am still kicking my ass for growing it when I had other better choices.Here are just a couple strains I could have grown

Headband x Skunk #1
Jesus Og
Master Kush
White Widow

I wanted a regular strain without wasting the strains I want to look at for selfing. It seems I had lots of better choices. At least now I know LMAO. Those Snowdawg seeds can't whisper in my ear anymore.
 
Girls are looking great as usual, something about the structure of C99 calls to me lol.
I would love to see you run Heasband x Skunk#1 or the Jesus Og both should be dank!! Hope all is well my friend!!
 
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