Random Thoughts: Plants & Genetics

[Jackalope]

Well the change over worked pretty good. Swapping 1 plant for 2 usually would be a problem. This time it worked well because the Purple Afghani was so wide. I also got a chance to give the plant another look. I took 2 more small buds from the lower part of the plant. I really should have photographed them before I did. If I can pull this plant through. Pictures might have come in handy.

I still think there may be a chance to pull this plant through. Don't get me wrong, it is a hermie. Any seeds that come from this plant will sure have lots of hermie genetics. If by any chance, any of the other Purple Afghani plants have seeds they should be feminized/hermie. The only plant that would matter is right next to the P.A. It is the best Cinderella 99. All other plants really won't matter that much. To much chance of a hermie's to grow for no reason.

It all revolves around what happens to this plant over the next week or so. As I mentioned. All the hermie flowers are on the lower part of the plant. Same place random flowers pop up. If it stays this way. I may be able to harvest the upper portion of the plant. That is when any seeds from the C-99 matter. If I can finish this plant and it is special for any reason. Any seeds on the C-99 would become intresting. As I mentioned I feel that this one plant I am trying not to kill is a Purple Kush leaning phenotype. Just because it is different does not mean it will be better. Sometimes different is enough.

This grow, other than swapping lights around. I have not had anything I would think would stress a plant. Nothing that would cause a hermie. Temps have held steady between 70 and 83. I am glad I had the room to move this plant and watch it. Especially since this is a test run for the strain. In lots of case's hermies are a deal breaker. Some strains carry hermies and are still being used. That is because they are so good it becomes worth the hassle. I am only giving this strain that same chance. Everything else about Purple Afghani seems pretty good so far.

 

[Jackalope]

I was never one to look down on things. People yes but not things LOL. The only problem with this grow is I have to look down on them. I guess if you add the stretch that never happened. These would be similar in size as normal. From the looks of it there are just as many buds, just shorter branches. As you can tell everything is going quite well.

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• Jackalope
• Sep 6, 2020
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There is a couple that are still a lighter green. They will look better in a few days. I got behind a week with nuits.

Now I just need these Timber lights to do their work. If these plants build buds like the others did. Production should be ok to good. Some smell sweet others have not not built up enough for the smell to shine through to name it. No matter how they smell, flavor is going to have to go along with the smell for this strain to get a high rating. Lots of strong weed with little flavor out there. I don't see a huge need for more of it.

My last update to Grimm was really good. 8 out of 10 were female and great looking plants. He was real happy. Now I am going to have to tell him about the hermie. As I mentioned, that may be a deal breaker for Grimm. He is pretty selective in his breeding. That got me wondering. How am I going to tell them if it sucks. I don't mind being a asshole. I am quite good at it too. Still I would find it hard to tell them the strain sucked and had hermies! I am hoping for something positive to say. It is going to take great flavor or a great high now to make this a viable strain now as I see it. That and there really needs to be a keeper mother. I won't be keeping any but they do need to be there. Other growers usually want a mother or keeper plant out of every pack of seeds. Who knows maybe this is going to have all that. I just have to wait and see.

 

[Dankman_420]

Just be straight forward with him. I'm sure he'll appreciate it

 

[Justin Goody]

Did you get your PM sorted?
I've been doing the 1% citric acid this week and haven't had any pistils shrivel up yet. I was never able to get bleach water strong enough to do the same thing without problems. Just a thought if it's not going away- this method seems to be doing the job pretty well. Also added mosquito dunks to the last gallon of 1% acid water. Figured I might as well kill some nuisance pests/larvae while treating the PM.
2 harmless treatments that seem to help me this year.

 

[Jackalope]

Just be straight forward with him. I'm sure he'll appreciate it

Of course I am going to be honest. I can't do anything else. That is one of the things that make me a good asshole LOL.

 

[Jackalope]

Yes, my last PM problem has been solved. Once I realized how to fight it right. I eradicated it and have been clean so far. I will keep the citric acid in mind if it comes back.

My problem came mostly when I was only spraying the tops sides of the leaves. Now I spray the whole plant top to bottom. Both the underside and the topside of the leaves and the stems. I think the total treatment of the whole plant was the main key.

 

[Dankman_420]

Haha I didn't mean not be honest. Just be straight forward. No beating around the bush Mr soul seems like a straight shooter from what I've seen of him online on IG. Unlike DJ's sensitive boy

 

[Jackalope]

I have had hermaphrodite plants. I have had plants that just put out banana's. I have had lots of plants that have only put out a flower or 2. This is the first time I have had a hermaphrodite curious plant LOL.

Which at this time this plant is. I left one of the little hermie buds I found yesterday to get a picture of it.

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• Jackalope
• Sep 7, 2020

Hermaphrodite curious

As you can tell, this is defiantly a male flower. It is just like the 5 other small buds I cut off. As of now they are not coming back. I of course hope it stays that way. If not, as long as they stay on the lower part of the plant things will still be ok. The main thing is if I didn't have a place to put this plant it already would be dead. I also don't know if it will be worth the troubles. I am just guess that pain in the ass plants might tend to be special. Plus not quite hermie plants have propagated lots of hybrids.

You can also tell by the picture. Some of the male pods are coming right off the stem. They are in similar spots as plants that only put out a pod or 2. Follow along and we will see lol. As long as the pods don't get out of control. I am going to let this plant go and trim what shows up off.

 

[Jackalope]

Haha I didn't mean not be honest. Just be straight forward. No beating around the bush Mr soul seems like a straight shooter from what I've seen of him online on IG. Unlike DJ's sensitive boy

Puns and Bashing! LMAO. Your on your game today Dankman LOL. One of the main reasons I plan to be totally honest is the fact I don't know what he already knows about this strain. Even if I am testing a strain for him. Doesn't mean he is not also testing me. The guy is only 6 hours away and has access to some amazing clones. I plan to be nice, helpful, and anything else I need to be to further a relationship LOL. Probably even wash the dudes car LMAO.

 

[Dankman_420]

That's a good plan
I've been growing going on 7 years. Had plenty of nanners but never had a True Herm like that one. Thanks for posting the clear pics. That's a full blown he/she

 

[Jackalope]

If there is such a thing as Bi curious. Why not Hermie curious LMAO. One can hope!

You got to love these new cell phone cameras. I didn't even get a fancy one.

 

[Dankman_420]

If there is such a thing as Bi curious. Why not Hermie curious LMAO. One can hope!

You got to love these new cell phone cameras. I didn't even get a fancy one.

Cell is all I use. 6 mp camera and no filters. O natural

 

[Jackalope]

I am thinking a may have been right about high nitrogen levels causing hairs to turn red early. Things are still growing and changing on the Flo F-5.

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• Jackalope
• Sep 8, 2020

Bigger is always good. I am hoping for better too. When the plant looked to be almost finished I took a couple small buds. Pretty damn good buzz to it. I have learned not to judge strains the first time I try them. My mind likes new weed too much. I always like them the first time. It kind of surprised me as this plant is not showing tons of trichomes.

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• Jackalope
• Sep 8, 2020

Flavor was real interesting for a immature bud dried in 3 days. It isn't strong enough to put a name on but I liked it. Probably old school flavors shining through. I do know I don't see the Blueberry influence in the flavor. That part I think I like.

 

[CannaFish]

Too bad about the herms, but that’s what test grows are for. When Nevil was breeding the NL lines he found herms. His response as to why he kept them was you don’t throw out the baby with the bath water. He saw the worth in those lines which are the basis of what is now considered kush. Possibly these Grimm lines as well.
I got a single male flower on the lower branch of my kush plant. I cut off the lowest branches and didn’t get any others.

 

[Jackalope]

Every thing is still going on pretty good. I took a couple more small lower buds yesterday. It hasn't quit putting them out quite yet. I still have plenty little buds between them and the big buds LOL.

I am really more curious then disappointed this time. I have a chance to watch it and keep it away from my other plants. I really glad I get to see this plant all the way through to the end one way or the other.

The next generation is getting ready for graduation.

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• Jackalope
• Sep 9, 2020

There are some real notable strains in there. The New, Grimm Glue, Super Lemon Haze, Monty Python

 

[CannaFish]

nice and green! im looking fwd to the grimm glue and SLH. I don't know the other 2.

here's a pic of DJ's flo keeper that I found online...

 

[Jackalope]

Funny shit. I have so much stuff going I forget what is where LMAO. I have The New and SLH going. Just not in that tent. I know the Monty Python and Grim Glue are in that one. I also have California Diesel by Humboldt seed company in there. I thought it was HSO not HSC LMAO.

What is even funnier is I don't know what else is in there. I have one Xanadu by Katsu in there but it a single plant. 2 unknown plants in there LOL. I will have to check and see what it is today.

I can see that same Flo in the plants I have going. One is a little more similar than the other. This Flo being Flo F-5, it has a Blueberry F-5 father. I don't know how much it changed it. All the Flo regulars I started were male plants. I didn't want to mess with it this time as I had other needs for tent space. I plan to grow Flo again next year to get at the pure Flo genetics. I know of one hybrid I want to make but I need to grow out a Flo male to get pollen. Any keeper females I find will be used for selfing or a hybrid.

I just don't like the way Flo grows enough to use it as a female. So hybrids will have to wait till I see what a Flo female is like. Females usually which carries how the plant will grow. My main plan is to use Cinderella as a mother and Flo as a father for a different early sativa. Cinderella makes great bushes.

 

[Jackalope]

I took some time and got a few pictures of one of the Purple Afghani plants. This one grew different as it was bushing out. I only ended up with 4 main branches on it. While it started out looking just like all the rest it changed as it grew. To tell the truth I don't know if I caused the difference, because of how I trained it or if it was always going to be different?

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• Jackalope
• Sep 12, 2020

Different it is. I expected good things from this plant. All 4 main branches are making large colas with buds all the way down.

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• Jackalope
• Sep 12, 2020

Frost varies on the Purple Afghani. Nothing is as frosty as the C-99 as of yet. This one is on the better side.

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• Jackalope
• Sep 12, 2020

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• Jackalope
• Sep 12, 2020

It is one of the sweeter smelling pheno's. Smells vary between sweet or fruity to nothing at all. Sweet, and nothing covers most of the plants smell wise. I have one with a dankness like some Kush plants have.

 

[Jackalope]

New updates on a few other plants. The one plant most like the one with hermie traits showed a flower yesterday. I went ahead and trimmed it off. I had left one branch with a few more smaller buds farther down the stem. They were more buds that were getting low light levels. So hermie's are a major problem with this strain. Still work-able at this time. I don't plan on moving this plant yet. I might later when the first Flo F-5 is finished. As of now I don't see it as a problem.

The second Flo F-5 is starting to smell now. Lots of Blueberry terpenes in this one. Looks like my 2 Flo F-5 are going to be totally different. One grows like blueberry and smells like Flo and the other grows like Flo and smells like blueberry. Sounds like a perfect hybrid to me LOL. Both phenotypes put out so many banana's D.J. Short could have called this strain Chiquita. I have found one seed on the first Flo F-5. Those banana's are carrying a little pollen.

 

[Jackalope]

Flo F-5 is now around 50 days and looks to be finished putting on weight. I am just watching and waiting now.

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• Jackalope
• Sep 14, 2020

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• Jackalope
• Sep 14, 2020

It is not super frosty like lots of strains these days. That really shouldn't matter. I tested this plant a couple weeks back when most the hairs were red. It was pretty good but seemed unfinished. Lots have changed since then. Mostly it went back into flower mode. Pretty sure all the red hairs early on had something to do with nutrients. #Still learning!

I hate being pushed around. I want to be the one making decisions. That is not the case I guess. I had to put the second tent into flower because of the taller plants. I kind of wanted to veg these for another week or so. That could cause problems if they stretch to much. Not a big deal. Everything is bushing out nicely and have plenty of branches to work with. Considering the swamp cooler. I am not sure if I could get away with a 1000 watt HPS. Not a big deal now. I have lots of lighting options. This tent got a 600 watt HPS and a 200 watt dual light COB led from Timber. I am using the COB led over the tallest plants. Maybe they won't stretch as much that way. After a couple weeks. I will start moving everything from one end of the tent to the other so they get both types of light.

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• Jackalope
• Sep 14, 2020

They don't look as tall in the picture. If these plants stretch 100% then I will be at the limits of this tent. I don't have the room to move tall plants away from the light if needed.